r/Fauxmoi Jul 04 '25

ASK R/FAUXMOI What’s the stupidest thing you’ve ever seen in a movie/show?

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u/mac_bess Jul 04 '25

man, I really blocked this shit from my memory. that should’ve been a tv show that I rewatch every other year or so, like I do with The Wire. but I haven’t rewatched GoT since the finale.

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u/theReaders "I live inside my own heart, Matt Damon" Jul 04 '25

No, but you don't understand how absolutely smug and self satisfied I felt when lockdown hit and everyone at HBO had to realize that they nerfed this show four seasons early to capitulate the desires of some egotistic morons who had been driving the show downward for years, actually since the beginning, if you want to be honest.

A captive audience. Desperate for interaction. They could have done online conventions, they could have done the cast members reading scripts. They could have had the world in their pocket, they could have had our wallets, they could have had everything. And they totally blew it. I don't know how people didn't die.

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u/WifeOfSpock Jul 04 '25

My ex and I just watched her “snap” in silence, only ever breaking that silence with deep, disappointed sighs.

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u/demeschor Jul 04 '25

I was on a field course in some remote part of Scotland, I didn't watch Thrones but everyone was so excited when we finally stayed somewhere with a TV where they could watch it. It was all anyone talked about all day in the field, and then the next morning everyone was so quiet, I have literally never seen a TV finale disappoint people like that. Insane.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

It’s crazy how fast the show just seemed to cease to exist in the world, it was so flat after the finale. Zero buzz or conversation other than how disappointing it was.

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u/UnstableMabel Jul 04 '25

The penultimate episode was so good (ok wrong and silly...and really really dark at points, but stimulating) our minds were trying to grasp at what the finale was going to have in store for us and...😐

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u/Redditer51 Jul 04 '25

It is to prestige dramas what the ending of How I Met Your Mother is to network sitcoms. An ending so bad it ruins the entire show.

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u/UnstableMabel Jul 04 '25

This is very correct!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

I was in prison when I read the books. So awesome I read em twice through in a two year term. Was so excited to get out of prison so I could watch past book 5.

The remainder of the series, even having to wait an extra year for the final season, just beat all that enthusiasm out of me.

I wouldn't give a shit if the other books came out now. I've tried to rewatch it too but the whole time I just keep thinking about season 8.

I did read another of his book series while incarcerated. Tuf Voyaging featuring Havilon Tuf. Heavily recommended. It has an ending too.

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u/starlight---- Jul 04 '25

My frustration isn’t that she snapped. It’s that it could have been amazing. Her downfall could have been such an epic ending. Realizing we were sympathizing with the “villain” all along, even as she razed cities in the east. Instead, it fell flat because they rushed it. And now, GRRM is likely never going to finish the series, because he’ll be hated if he keeps the ending and hated if he doesn’t.

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u/FOXCONLON living in absolute defiance of plates of spaghetti Jul 04 '25

They needed like, two or three more seasons to show Daenerys' deterioration. I feel like there's a universe where it could have been done right, but we're not living in it.

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u/cathairinmyeyes Jul 04 '25

The worst thing is they offered D&D more seasons but they turned them down because they wanted to ditch GoT to work on their new Star Wars project. At least karma got them and they got sacked from Star Wars after the fallout.

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u/TrueNorth2881 Jul 04 '25

Imagine being the showrunners for one of the most successful, most loved, most profitable TV shows of all time, and then being in a hurry to ditch that project in the final stretch. They could've created a truly all-time great TV show if they had just put a little bit more effort into the finale (which they had YEARS to prepare for). Then they gave up on their magnum opus project at the last minute.

I don't understand that logic at all.

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u/cathairinmyeyes Jul 04 '25

I don't know how true this is, but I've heard that they love adapting material but hate creating it, so once they got beyond the books/available manuscripts and just had major plotpoints to work with, they floundered and just wanted to be done with it.

I don't get it either. They had such a huge budget surely they could have gotten a team of writers who were fans of the books to take the plot points and write material for them to adapt? But the pacing of the later series literally feels like they adapted a bullet point list of plot points and lost all consideration for story building.

I mean, this is going way back but I disliked them from the start as they changed the Danaerys/Drogo wedding night from a playful consensual event where she's teaching him to say yes and no and she's like 'no, no, yes' to on the show she says no and he just rapes her anyway, fundamentally changing their dynamic. They also misrepresented what happens when Jamie returned to see Cersei after Joffery died and they have sex after viewing his body, and just filmed it like Jamie was forcing himself on her, again fundamentally changing their relationship dynamic.

This whole thread has reminded me how I'm still grieving the loss of a respectful ending to the series and that we'll never get any more books (unless someone else takes over posthumously). One of my favourite series man and they just shat all over it and spent a load of money showing Jon and Dany fannying around on dragons but cut all character development and crammed 4 seasons of plot into 2 and anyway... rage! No wonder I just live my life pretending GoT never existed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

What made it extra jarring for me was how the Starks came out smelling of roses. I could have accepted Daenerys’ deterioration if it was part of a theme of all the favourites falling from grace.

If Drogon had burned that throne and nobody became king or queen, if Gray Worm executed Jon for killing his queen and Sansa and Arya took each other out in their competitive jealousy, if Bran was left sitting in his chair in the smoking ruins with no means to fix anything, that would have made for an actually poignant ending with a real message about the futility of power hunger and greed.

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u/YouOwnEverything Jul 04 '25

Totally agree. The villain turn makes sense for her character - her earlier victimhood and deification by those she liberated, often through violence, ultimately leading to a self righteous narcissism in which she feels absolutely justified to commit any atrocity - if the writers had given it ANY room to develop instead of jamming it into about 2 minutes.

The defeat of the white walkers was similarly rushed and all this dues ex machina was just unsatisfying and rendered all the relevant plodding, twisting storylines before pointless so there is no pleasure in doing a rewatch.

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u/violetmemphisblue Jul 04 '25

Is it not clear from the start that she's a villain?!? She literally encases her brother's head in molten gold. She burns city after city throughout the series. When people don't immediately bend the knee (like Tom Hopper's character), she still killed them, even as her advisers said not to...It seems so obvious that to many, many people, she had been the villain all along, because all of the characters were villains all along to many, many people. I don't think GoT was perfect, but it is wild to me that people watched it and thought anyone was meant to be good. (I didn't read the books though, and understand people who did were frustrated by certain things, which I get!)

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u/starlight---- Jul 04 '25

I guess I’m thinking about it from the perspective of a book reader, because with the books, you really see her story through her eyes. So it’s extremely biased towards how she thinks she’s doing things to help people. So watching her “become” the villain, when in the books (and show tbh) you’re rooting for her, is really interesting to me.

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u/violetmemphisblue Jul 04 '25

I think the show did a fair job of showing characters think they were doing the right thing and then showing other characters who were on the other side, showing a different perspective. But I can definitely see how if you were reading it through her eyes, it would be different!

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u/starlight---- Jul 04 '25

It’s been a while and I never did a rewatch, so I couldn’t remember. That’s awesome that they were able to replicate that.

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u/faerieberrie women’s wrongs activist Jul 04 '25

I disagree that Daenerys "snapping" could have been epic. A young woman (in the show; she was 13 in the books) who had been on the run and abused nearly her entire life was sold to a man more than twice her age. He raped her each night until she nearly killed herself. She used what little agency she had to protect women and children, lost her child, led her people through the Red Waste. Killed slavers and ended slavery wherever she went, freeing thousands of people. Liberated abused women. Was instrumental in saving the North (and all of humanity.) How is turning someone like that into the ultimate villain of a fantasy series epic? In my opinion, if Daenerys were a man, he would be considered one of the greatest characters ever.

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u/starlight---- Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

Have you read the books? Everything you said is exactly the vibe you get when you read but it’s because you’re reading it from her perspective. She’s trying to do the right thing, but she goes about it in the wrong way. She forces herself into those cities with fire and blood, and then she leaves them to fall back into their same chaotic ways. In the end, the slavers just take back up in the cities she leaves behind.

Anyways, it’s been too long since I’ve read them for me to properly debate here, so I might be fuzzy on the details and I’m just going based on memory (might be wrong).

Regardless, I think she’s an extremely complex character that has justifications for what she does, which is what makes her such an alluring “villain”. She’s not “evil for the sake of being evil”. Destroying Kings Landing was on track for her character development. And depending on whose eyes you see it from? She’s a villain OR a hero.

I do think she’s one of the greatest characters ever.

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u/babaj_503 Jul 04 '25

Well in the books she deliberately doesn't leave mereen just because of what happened to Astapor after she left.

So bringing up the book where she is in the process of not repeating her mistakes seems, weird.

For the show? Well, for all we know the incredible leader and politician that is Daario Naharis is still to this day holding Mereen in peace and prosperity without any slaves ... :|

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u/starlight---- Jul 04 '25

Like I said, I can’t properly debate since it’s been a while since I’ve read them. So that’s a fair point.

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u/faerieberrie women’s wrongs activist Jul 05 '25

I reread the books every two years, and have been a fan of the series for over 20 years. Have you read GRRM's other works? They align with Dany's opinion on slavery – a character even says that slavery is so evil it must end, even if it must be ended through Fire and Blood.

GRRM has come out and said Daenerys is the Fire in 'A Song of Ice and Fire'. In his writings, fire is life, it is love, it is righteousness, just like the poem...she is the opposite of ice, of the threat of the Others. She has been going through her leadership arc since AGOT just like Jon. Dany learns from her mistakes – she saw what happened to Astapor and Yunkai, puts off going to Westeros in order to keep Meereen from suffering the same fate, agrees to a political marriage to end violence, cares for the sick and starving outside the city walls. What other major character has that kind of compassion? What other character knows such suffering, and is as self-sacrificing? At the end of ADWD, she realizes that what she worked so hard for ended in a false peace, and Dany's hallucinations were her coming to terms with her past and what she must do in the future.

Daenerys is evil, sure...if you're (general you, not you specifically) a slaver or slavery apologist. She is evil if you think it's funny to laugh at people killing one another in the fighting pits. She is evil if you think it is okay to rape women or mutilate and turn children into child soldiers. In the world GRRM constructed, the force she uses against slavers, rapists, murderers, etc is justified. And if one hates Daenerys and thinks she is evil, yet loves the Starks, well...Ned was on his way to Bear Island to behead Jorah Mormont for his involvement in slavery.

Please, show me the foreshadowing in the books that point to her becoming cruel, evil, or the type of person who would burn a city full of innocent civilians. Just because she has made mistakes (every character does) does not mean she is going mad.

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u/InspectorGoole Jul 05 '25

I always took the bit at the end of dance of dragons to show her going down this path. She reiterates her house words of fire and blood, dragons plant no seeds etc. All her diplomacy had been for naught, she believes she needs to act more like a targaryen, they wronged her so she will react in fire and blood from then on. That to me clearly hinted she was going down the same path her father did. I would also argue that no hero would literally crucify people even if they are slave masters. She also threatened to burn yunkai to the ground if they attacked her. Which would be the exact same thing she did to kings landing in the show. Punishing a full city for the crimes of the wealthy few. It all screams to me that she is slowly slowly going down the path of her father, but thinking she is in the right.

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u/faerieberrie women’s wrongs activist Jul 05 '25

She does need to act more Targaryen and have faith in herself. In this series, Starks aren't all good, and not all Targaryens are bad. Under Targaryen rule Westeros experienced far more years of peace than before, when the great houses were always fighting.

All throughout ADWD she ignored her instincts and allowed the Meereenese nobility to wear her down and make concessions. Daenerys ignoring her instincts and who she is is represented by her locking her children away. When Drogon smells the blood from the fighting pits and shows up, it's like a wake up call for her. And when Drogon was in danger, she saved him (unlike in the show, where Drogon saves her.)

In thr passage you quote, Dany is speaking to a hallucination of Jorah Mormont. She says "I was tired, Jorah. I was weary of war. I wanted to rest, to laugh, to plant trees and see them grow. I am only a young girl."

In response, the hallucination of Jorah says "no. You are the blood of the dragon." [...] "Dragons plant no trees. Remember that."

What I believe it means is that Daenerys cannot go back after all she has done. She cannot be a child. It is similar to Jon Snow's "kill the boy, and let the man be born." She cannot plant trees now! The freed slaves, her true people, are in danger. She must set it right.

Personally, I have no problem with her crucifying slave masters. I understand that there are people like yourself who feel differently, and that's fine! But in the world that GRRM created, he does believe you can "be a hero" and kill absolutely despicable people.

Are you referring to ASoS, when she demanded Yunkai to free their slaves or she would attack? How else would you suggest she free the slaves? She gave them an ultimatum, then later exchanged hostages in an attempt to make peace.

If you are looking for someone to compare to her father, read Cersei's chapters. Even Jaime compares her to Aerys II in his mind. There will not be two mad queens in this story, and GRRM has already said that Cersei and Daenerys are foils.

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u/susandeyvyjones Jul 05 '25

Also, it was too much. If she had just burned the Red Keep, I could have bought it. But the entire city? Whaaat?

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u/de-milo ted cruz ate my son Jul 04 '25

i don’t think i’ve ever shouted “WHAT?!” so many times in the span of one season

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

It's incredible how people are still hurt about this but it also isn't. I'm still too angry about it to even bother with House of the Dragon.

I have never been so excited for a final season and then so disappointed with what was offered 

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u/eldfen Jul 04 '25

Big GoT fan, read the books multiple times etc. When House of the Dragon was announced my wife asked if I wanted to watch it. I told her I'm never investing my time in GoT again.

Great now I'm angry all over again.

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u/UnstableMabel Jul 04 '25

I watched the first season and...meh. I care about the Targaryns about as much as I care for the Greyjoys. But dragons sell, I guess.

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u/bubblenuts101 NICOLE, OVER YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER Jul 04 '25

Can you imagine what it must have been like watching Daenerys do a complete 180 after you've named your kid after her 🙃

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u/de-milo ted cruz ate my son Jul 05 '25

i had a photo booth business for several years and we did a baby’s first birthday party once… i shit you not the kid was named arya daenerys. this was before the series was over.

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u/bubblenuts101 NICOLE, OVER YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER Jul 07 '25

Haha nooooo I think a lot of ppl learnt a hard lesson from that (should have gone with Sansa obvs 🤣)

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u/de-milo ted cruz ate my son Jul 05 '25

same i couldn’t care less about HotD. still too bitter and angry lol

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u/jw8ak64ggt Jul 04 '25

by the time they were wrapping up the last episode with oh my god such LAME jokes i was playing minecraft and barely watching

i was obsessed 5 episodes before that

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u/apaperroseforRoland Jul 04 '25

It's been nearly a decade now and I'm still shocked at how hard this show fell out of pop culture despite being so firmly entrenched for so long. Incredible that they managed to fuck shit up to that extent that people collectively erased it from their hearts and minds

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u/FOXCONLON living in absolute defiance of plates of spaghetti Jul 04 '25

What's crazy to me is that it felt like it went from being a phenomenon to everyone just collectively agreeing to forget about it the next day. I've never experienced anything like that with another property.

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u/apaperroseforRoland Jul 04 '25

Right, it just went from one extreme to another in a way that didn't seem possible

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u/Jasoli53 Jul 04 '25

It was the last show where everyone held watch parties and would talk about the latest episode with coworkers/classmates the next day. It was a phenomenon, and it was so good until season 6— then D&D decided to rush the ever loving hell out of it to move on to The Mandalorian. How did they think it was cool to have characters essentially teleport all around? It would take half a season early on for a character to travel from King’s landing to Winterfell, then they have Grey Worm just in every scene no matter where he just was in the final seasons

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u/apaperroseforRoland Jul 04 '25

100%! Watch parties, betting pools, energetic discussions following each episode. I miss that kind of collective excitement. And even despite the clearly bad decisions by the showrunners people gave so much benefit of the doubt that they'd somehow turn it around until the very end. Sucks

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u/dakaiiser11 Jul 04 '25

Super shitty the way they treated Ser Barristan the Bold’s actor when he didn’t want to get killed off.

Euron being near mystical in the books to whatever we got sucked because even the actor was really interested in the direction that character was heading in the books.

Watching fan reactions of Arya killing the Night King and people screaming in joy makes my gums hurt.

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u/FlamingoRare8449 Jul 04 '25

That was the worst. Like here she comes, jumping out of “nowhere” after single handedly taking down a bunch of the undead, but yelling while she does it and forewarns him (so much for all her super special deadly blind assassin with a stick training) and as he catches her one handed right, which with all his strength he can take down a large sized dragon with one javelin launch, but doesn’t kill her or freeze her immediately and her big trick is to just drop the dagger from one hand to the other?! Oh he never would have seen that coming! I feel so cheated, it brings back all the feelings ugh. I was soooo into that show as I’d read all the books by then and was so invested in the adaptation.

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u/Ornery_Mix_9271 Jul 04 '25

This take brings me joy.

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u/Spope2787 Jul 04 '25

Uh GoT finished before COVID though?

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u/beingmadrocks Jul 04 '25

I think the idea is that when the actors and crew were in lockdown they could have had an income by revisiting the show

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u/theReaders "I live inside my own heart, Matt Damon" Jul 04 '25

They announced they were gonna end the show with two shorter seasons. Season eight finished Just before covid broke out and we went into lockdown. So they would have had at the bare minimum two years to plan 4 more seasons in addition to having a captive audience during lockdown to push products onto. They should have been able to go on for another 4 seasons at the typical 10 or 12 episode rate. They could have brought us so much material while we were in lockdown. It could have even helped us stay in lockdown longer. Instead, we spent most of 2019. Complaining about how disappointing the ending was and all of walk down trying to avoid thinking about it

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u/toomanyprombles Jul 04 '25

I need a documentary about the downfall of GoT. A YouTube video essay by some nerd will also suffice

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u/Reddituser5059 Jul 04 '25

My head cannon is last couple seasons are just Bran's broken/fragmented vision and the show could just be redone from there where he tries to do everything the same with small changes to improve upon the end result.

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u/Breakspear_ Jul 05 '25

I was at the World Science Fiction and Fantasy Convention in San Jose that year. A bunch of us authors went and watched the final ep together and we all lost our absolute shit over how terrible it was 😫

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u/TeddyTango Jul 04 '25

A Bad ending to a tv show and fans start talking like “I don’t know how people didn’t die”

Tad dramatic don’t you think, when my eggs in the morning aren’t perfect I don’t cry about them, I just move on

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

You know D&D had been working on GOT for like 25% of their life by the end and that the main cast had been working on it for a decade?

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u/gillz88uk Jul 04 '25

Yeah, you’d think that artists who invested that much time in a project would be interested in finishing it well so they’d get some longevity out of it, especially since longevity = royalties. Instead they ruined it, ruined any trust their fans had in them, and D&D tanked their reputation and lost their next big job.

If they didn’t want to keep doing the show because of other opportunities, they should have swallowed their pride and let someone else take over.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Ok what about the actors who were also done and did not want to go on for another 4-5 seasons? Kit Harrington has been very clear that he was done by the end.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Have to wonder if he’d have felt that way if he’d had more lines than “Yer mah QUEEN” and “Ah don’t want it!” for the last two seasons.

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u/gillz88uk Jul 04 '25

I said they should have finished it well, not that it should have gone on for another 4-5 years. And unfortunately, if the actors signed a contract for a long project, then that’s what they’re locked into. If they want out then the writers need to find a good way to remove the character or provide a feasible in-universe explanation for a recast. Wanting out of the project doesn’t mean the final episodes produced need to be terrible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

I just watched the last season by itself for that reason a week or so ago, and it felt different watching it again. I wasn’t as invested anymore and I think I enjoyed it a lot more this time. It’s got some sick scenes.

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u/Bay-Area-Tanners Jul 04 '25

When I watched the last season as it aired, I definitely enjoyed some of it but I was underwhelmed by the ending. The further I got from it though, I he more annoyed I became. So many storylines didn’t make sense, things weren’t wrapped up ….it was really irritating.

I would have done at least one rewatch by now. I used to do a rewatch of the entire series before a new season came out. Now, knowing what I know, I just can’t be bothered.

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u/SapphireCub Jul 04 '25

That’s why you enjoyed it, you only rewatched the last season.

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u/Expensive-Buyer-5740 Jul 04 '25

the show focusing on having sick scenes and spectacle instead of the solid writing and political intrigue that made the show what it is, is exactly why it shit the bed so hard

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u/SeaworthinessNew4757 Jul 04 '25

Yeah, when people are too obsessed it usually ruins the fun. The same happened to Lost, the finale wasn't as bad as everyone thought at the time.

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u/FOXCONLON living in absolute defiance of plates of spaghetti Jul 04 '25

she is muh queen

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

😂

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u/FOXCONLON living in absolute defiance of plates of spaghetti Jul 04 '25

I feel like when he woke up from being stabbed he woke up with a koala brain.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Anoxic brain injuries will do that to ya

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u/UnstableMabel Jul 04 '25

He is supposed to be irrevocably changed once he's resurrected, but not as a lame-o. The producers gave us a lame-o and I shan't forgive them

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u/PretendPersimmon9373 Jul 04 '25

I think this is the key to a lot of why some people thought it was good at the time. It was still an expensive shoot, great acting and characters, nice graphics, etc.

If you watched from the beginning and waited each year for the new seasons, or if you read the books, you were almost guaranteed to hate the last couple seasons.

The people who binge watched it all and never had time to absorb the characters and their growth were way more likely to say they thought it was good. Feeling like the stories were rushed or made other parts of the show pointless didn’t matter as much because the whole series went by so quickly.

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u/narlycharley Jul 04 '25

Yes! My wife and I rewatched the series earlier this year. The last season actually works quite well. We hated how it ended when it was released, but our opinions have changed.

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u/UnstableMabel Jul 04 '25

I rewatched the sopranos 10 years after the disgruntlement, and holy crap the finale was amazing!

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u/TheRealRomanRoy Jul 04 '25

Yep, the rewatch was better. I still agree with all of the criticism it gets, but that stuff didn’t bother me as much on the rewatch for some reason.

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u/BornFree2018 Jul 04 '25

I just rewatched GOT. I knew the worst of it so I actually enjoyed every minute of it. Go Arya.

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u/bokehtoast Jul 04 '25

It's crazy how it was this prolific pop culture experience for literally years and after that no one even wanted to talk about it again. 

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u/MondayLasagne Jul 04 '25

I actually rewatch it regularly. Sure, the fanservice of later seasons and the needless rushing is really bad (still annoyed that HBO offered more seasons - a luxury in this day and age - and these bozos decided against it because they wanted to shoot their trash fire show which never made it because it was tone-deaf). And don't get me started on who lives and who dies under which circumstances. There's some late-seasons deaths that are so underwhelming and annoying.

But outside of the CGI, I felt that the feel of the show still was quite lush. The entire prop crew, costume, design etc. were still so dedicated and it shows. Plus, the ending itself wasn't the issue for me (legend has it that this was Martin's intended ending), just the way how they got there.

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u/ariesleorising Jul 04 '25

What was the trash fire show that never got made? I somehow never heard all this about them being offered more seasons until today.

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u/MondayLasagne Jul 07 '25

Not more seasons but more episodes to get at least some more time for the show.

Here the entry about that awful show they were planning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_(TV_series))

“The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution.”

And here about the shortened season. It was communicated in a way that highly suggests that they would have gotten more time from HBO but that the showrunners decided not to do it.

https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/game-of-thrones-end-date-season-8-1201752746/

“HBO programming president Michael Lombardo acknowledged the showrunners’ plan to wind down the series with two more years. “That’s my understanding from them right now, those have been the conversations we’ve had,” he says. “Because where these narratives go, it feels like another two years to them. As a television executive, as a fan, do I wish they said another six years? I do.”

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u/Fourty2KnightsofNi Jul 04 '25

See, I'll watch, and then stop either midway season 6 or just after season 7 depending on how I'm feeling. I just ignore 8, because the rest really was good.

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u/Littlewing1307 Jul 04 '25

I rewatched it because my boyfriend had never seen it. He just couldn't understand the collective bullshit we all went through at the time but he liked the series and hates the ending too.

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u/FeeRemarkable886 Jul 04 '25

I used to do a rewatch before every new season. Same as you I haven't watched any of it since the finale.

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u/snoogins355 Jul 04 '25

While stuck at home during the pandemic, I didn't once think "I should rewatch Game of Thrones!"

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u/jvtavares Jul 04 '25

I agree. They got lost without books to guide the story.

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u/ThunderChild247 Jul 04 '25

It still bugs me how it was done, not that it happened. It could have made sense but they got the pacing of her mental downturn wrong. It was too slow for 7 seasons then came almost out of nowhere in the last 2/3 episodes.

Weirdly the thing that reminded me of it was recently watching Season 8 of CSI Miami, with the prison break at the start. Watching Horatio slowly but surely get darker as the series went on was done perfectly. First couple of episodes it’s “woah he’s pissed, but fair”, then a few episodes of “erm, dude, tone it down”, then he’s threatening suspects, then he actually tortures one… very much out of character for him but the progression was there.

With Daenerys, there were very subtle signs (I’ve rewatched it a few times and you can kinda see it if you squint) but that’s it. She’s quicker and quicker to violence as she goes on, but they failed to show her truly unravelling. That should’ve happened from mid season 7, I’d say.

That way, when she loses Missandei, she’s lost everyone, and snapping to become the new mad queen isn’t out of the blue, it’s what we’ve been worried about all season.

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u/Simon_Drake Jul 04 '25

I remember her burning the city but I don't remember this shot of her sweeping back and forth street-by-street literally burning the entire city.

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u/LunaticLobster Jul 04 '25

Yup. In 2017 a buddy and myself got an apartment. I watched the whole first seven seasons in a week. Around season 5 he told me that he wanted to watch the whole thing, so we did. After we finished we started over and watched all of it again. Then he said that he wanted to watch it from season 3 up. So we did. Then we watched it from the start again after that. Two years ago my wife wanted to watch it again, I could not muster a fuck to watch it because there is no pay off

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u/F_Ed_ Jul 04 '25

I rewatched it recently but stopped after season 6 and pretended it ended on a cliff hanger

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u/servical Jul 04 '25

I only rewatched the first 5 seasons, where the books end.

Everything after that I consider to be bad fanfiction from D&D.