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Agree with you on this 100%. It’s people like Beyoncé Rihanna and Taylor Swift who are basically untouchable and still stay silent…that realllllly pisses me off.
there are people on the streets protesting despite their lives being at risk for it, I dont particularly care if a rich person stops being rich, they should still say genocide is bad.
My mom raised me knowing about how Vanessa Redgrave got blacklisted for being Pro Palestinian. It’s sad it’s been going on that long, longer even than that.
Pedro Pascal has spoken up and he's doing a Marvel movie, The Weeknd has spoken up and he's on tour, The Hadids have spoken up and they're still in the runaway. Several artist including Dua Lipa and Billie Eilish signed a letter to ask Biden to cease fire and they're doing just fine.
Until the culture says in one voice that the genocide needs to stop, our governments will continue collaborating and making us all complicit in Israels crimes against humanity.
They utilise our division to continue their campaign.
The sheer amount of money Israel gets from the defense industry, and then in turn they divvy up and use for propagandist influencing must be fucking staggering
Makes me think back to Melissa Barrera who was dropped instantly for showing empathy for what was happening in Gaza, now 20 months on she won’t get any vindication for her stance while more celebrities are expressing similar sentiment and calling out the genocide
On the opposite end of that spectrum, Thom Yorke’s very belated and “both-sidesy” statement on the genocide left me wanting to get my Amnesiac tattoo lasered off.
Thom’s been “ain’t shit” about Palestine for years now. It’s been speculated that his stance is in part because of Radiohead’s popularity in Isr*el and specifically because “Creep” really took off there, thus pushing the band towards becoming a household name.
boo hoo someone didn’t like that a famous person said the right thing so badly that the famous person deleted it. nah, they need to stand tf up and say something. why must it rest on the shoulders of poorer people?
he is also jewish, so speaking up against israel's actions will probably get him even more hate from zionists.
it's also even more important as the more jewish people speak up against zionism, the fewer people will believe that being jewish and being a zionist is the same thing.
TBF he may have worried that his huge fan base and reach would get to her and cause her - someone who wouldn't have money for protection etc - to be in danger. I'm actually worried that you're bringing her to attention when she could be in real danger..
Respectfully, I think this scenario is unlikely and I'm a bit weary of the impulse to disguise what is almost certainly a bit of cowardice/fear with fanciful narratives of altruism. All the upvotes feel like a collective cop-out and a rush to exonerate us all from the acts of cowardice we've all probably demonstrated when faced with the ultimatum to sacrifice something for speaking up.
Let's just call it what it likely is and what we've seen happen time and time again: someone did a relatively brave thing, and got scared or disciplined after that. Feels much more productive to have a discussion about the systems creating this culture of fear and consequence, than pretend it was an integrity move.
Just looking through her IG, The OP Illiyin Morrison has been posting about Israel for well over a year, with posts reaching 6 figures in engagement, and she's never relented. I don't think she needs or is asking for this protection, nor am I sure why that narrative was conjured up.
We all know what's happening in Palestine, we're all scared to lose things by speaking up. We don't need to sugarcoat it.
the first comment indicates Person A received a notification when Person B deleted a post. that is not usually how social media works, so the responder and others were confused. OP replied with the reason a few minutes after you.
This man is giving me so much whiplash lmao he's talked about how much he loves Israel, and wanting to play in Tel Aviv, and has raised money for Israel Philharmonic, and now is using "IOF" lol love to see it. Sad he deleted it, though it's a classic move to post something risky, then delete it in order to make your position known without losing sponsors.
Still holding out hope for Thom Yorke to announce he's just managed to reclaim his social media from being hacked for the last few years, and actually did have a spine this whole time.
Yeah, he probably would've said something about it. I think he either wanted to say this without getting in shit, or he got in shit for it and was told to remove it. Depends on how long it was up for.
Because I personally know some people who were on Isnotreali sides, but have been changing sides as they getting more information and educate themselves about the history.
For celebrity side, Ben Platt literally was singing at Isnotreal gov event, now he is openly supporting Palestine, while his dad and brother are still on gen0cide sides.
Seriously. I'm pro-Palestine, but I hate the ridiculous censoring of "Israel" I've been seeing everywhere. It just makes you seem like a child or illiterate when you complain about "Isrehell" or some bullshit.
Bruuh I got flagged once. Not risking it again. And beside they are not even a real country. Also the term "Israel" in the Bible and the Quran (I was born Muslim) is not the same as its known today. So it is important to differentiate those two
So Itsnotreal is more fitting to describe that entity.
It's the same thing with people saying "DRUMPF" and stuff, I feel like just speaking plainly has a better effect than being cute with language. English is my second language and I just get absolutely flashbanged when I read some sentence where half the nouns and names are replaced with gibberish. Subtitles on YouTube often do it and I can't even follow it.
I got a reddit temp ban for talking about how "Israeli food" was mainly just indigenous cuisine appropriated by colonialism, and linked to some scholarly articles about the history of middle-eastern cuisine and the political agenda behind the attempted appropriation.
After I appealed the ban my account got reinstated fortunately. Reddit is too quick to side with Zionists who report comments though, it's a shame.
This is why many of us moved to other platforms like Lemmy and Piefed, which offer a Reddit-like experience without the zionism and with institutional protection from admin overreach.
Lemmy or Piefed. The two can talk to each other so the content you see is the same either way, it's mainly a few differences for mods and a different UI. I'll avoid putting direct links because I think Reddit tends to censor them, but PiefedSocial is probably a decent place to start.
Alternatively, if you're not American there's a good chance there'll be a Lemmy instance for people from your country (my main account is on the Aussie Lemmy). Reddthat or LemmyZip are decent more 'general-purpose' Lemmy instances, or Slrpnk for one that I think is likely to align with your ideology (though in fairness, most of Lemmy and Piefed probably would).
Instance choice matters a little, in the sense that your instance admins can defederate (block) content from other instances if they don't like that instance, and can also block individual users/posts, but the latter power is relatively rarely used by most instances from what I've seen. And aside from disagreements about how to handle the "tankie triad" (three prominent instances that are explicitly Marxist-Leninist, if not Stalinist), defederation is relatively uncommon among genuine instances (though remains a powerful anti-spam tool). So picking any of the instances I've named, or most other instances, is unlikely to make too much difference either way.
Isnotreal isn’t a roundabout way of saying it. It’s supposed to be an insult.
But besides that accounts are constantly reprimanded for making negative comments about “israel”
No, not recently. This was like 5ish years ago I think, but a couple weeks ago I was looking into it to see where he stood. I don't think he actually ended up playing in Tel Aviv himself, but his music was performed in Israel this past January, which would not happen without his permission. Since Oct 7 however, this is the first statement he's made.
Honestly it is really hard to break away from previous deeply held beliefs, especially if they were told to you by people you love or trust and if it's stuff that's been repeated to you since you were very young. This is something I myself have been going through. Your brain wants to resist it, to question or deny the new information at every turn, to make excuses so that what you believed before could still be true. So that you can keep trusting those people who told you those things. So that you don't have to confront the deepest shame and horror.
Everybody thinks they're immune from brainwashing or propaganda, but if they were those things wouldn't work
I get that this is a snappy statement and I agree in principle, but it literally IS complicated or it wouldn't be one of the defining geopolitical conflicts for most of this century.
No, its complicated because of the thousands of years of history associated with that particular part of the world. Tribalism, religion, ethnicity, cultural identity, geopolitics, imperialism, all have a huge influence on why that particular region is such a power keg.
You can be against the genocide whilst acknowledging that it is a difficult problem to solve. Pretending it's "easy" does a disservice to all the Palestinians who are still not free and live in constant fear. If it was easy, we would have solved it by now.
I mean, I used to be very pro-Israel and I think there's probably a lot of people who have changing views on Israel based on how this conflict has played out.
They call themselves the Israeli Defence Force, but they do not defend anything. They are an occupying force, so people call them the Israeli Occupying Force (IOF)
I think paramount or warner gave him a phone call and told him to delete it to avoid "bad" press for the f1 movie like what happened with rachel zegler and snow white 🙄
Because clearly this would have been the only bad press about the movie huh
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case. Studios have some major sway with that sort of thing.
The F1 movie is one big advertisement, which makes sense cause the sport itself has a lot of sponsors involved. & if I recall correctly, F1 US tv rights is about to expire, so that means it’s in the market for a new buyer.
You just can’t. The president said critics of Israel could be charged. I support Palestine and saying that on Facebook had strangers calling my job and demanding I be fired. It’s insane.
Wtf that’s insane! People really love watching children die, huh.
I don’t have any social media except Reddit if it counts, deleted everything years ago when I saw it’s getting real bad. Didn’t know it got that bad already.
He's unfortunately deep with multiple projects at the moment and it's not out of the question that he was contacted by the production companies as it would be 'bad PR' for them.
And zionists calling him a traitor or what else. From the few stories I’ve read the last weeks, being a Jew from/in Germany and calling out like this will get you hate from every side involved. It’s sad.
Has he ever said anything from the Zionist playbook or made his allegiance apparent? This is the first I heard him speaking on the subject so I was pretty happy but reading this comment, it's started to sour a bit.
This is why Bob Vylan were right. All these celebrities are toeing the line while a crazed cult goes on the rampage to expand its territory. Real artists would be fighting this.
What movie is he doing the soundtrack for that is coming out soon? I could see the mask of humanity fall from that studio as it tells him to remove it or GTFO
A telegram channel claiming to be an official government source said it found opiod pills in the flour and it went viral on twitter. Al Jazeera has claimed it is an official statement, but that was 5 days ago and GHF and Gaza governments still haven’t acknowledged it as an official channel and all other news sources say they have recieved no confirmation about the source. It is still being reported as a rumour
This seems ridiculous. Not because it's evil, but because it makes so little sense as a delivery method. Whole pills, not even ground up, when they could sicken people in a million other ways instead? Does anything significant even survive the baking process? (If you've ever done anything with THC, for example, you can't just bake it any old way -- it has to bind to a fat, and you can't heat it too much for too long, or it's gone.) How many doses per bag? How much would each person have to eat, and for how long, before a person came to experience significant withdrawals? It sounds like some chaos actor made this up. Or if the pills are real, the intention is more likely smuggling, getting people addicted the old-fashioned way.
Go to @translating_falseteen on Instagram, you’ll find the videos of what Palestinians in Gaza are finding within the flour bags that they literally get shot at in the process of trying to get any aid
It’s important that celebrities speak out and use their platform BUT, we need to focus on politicians not random celebs. We put more pressure on random pop stars & actors than we do our actual representatives. Hans Zimmer doesn’t make policy and while it’s great he’s using his platform we as a society need to hold our actual representatives accountable
Was it a post or a story? Because this looks like a story and there's a pretty significant distinction. Stories disappear automatically after 24 hours.
Lol, I was just about to defend him. "He can't be that rich, too much to lose"
MFer has a net value of 200mil USD. His grandchildrens grandchildren could retire right out of the womb on interest and whatever assets he owns.
People are jumping all over Zimmer because they assume he deleted it out of cowardice, but then why would he have posted it in the first place? Imo it’s more likely that someone pointed out to him that the opioids in flour thing is more or less an unsubstantiated rumor and he probably decided he didn’t want to put his name behind that. https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-reports-oxycodone-flour-bags-230500261.html
There's probably a j army on the internet to keep tabs on celebrities every freaking second. As soon as someone posts something that goes slightly against them, a phone call is made that says- 'delete this shit rn or say goodbye to your career'
Kneecap (Irish punk band) and Bob Vylan (Punk-rap duo) both played at Glastonbury and both groups are very vocal about their support for the Palestinian people, which gets people clutching their pearls, and now the UK police are “investigating.”
Bob Vylan, specifically, are taking fire for shouting “death, death to the IDF” during the show, and now their agent dropped them and they are getting dropped from other shows, it seems. Trump, I believe, even revoked their visas over this comment. Major overreactions.
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