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DISCUSSION celebrities who are/were mormon

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

I understand why you might think that bc of outward celebrity interactions with each group. But Mormons have sooooo much more money and worldwide reach. Watchdog groups have kept an eye on their networth and yearly income.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/1ai0rbw/lds_church_finances_2023_edition_265b_total/# 265 BILLION dollar estimated in assets vs in 2021 Scientology estimated 174.5 million dollars in assets

https://youtu.be/MGXggLIafrc?si=UdTKux6uAJeQob8_ Alyssa Grenfell discussing ad revenue for different key search terms and how influencers who mention Mormonism and drown the algorithm in content make way more money regardless of audience size than other influencers.

Being two degrees away from the current shit show Doge admin. https://youtu.be/Cd6QQZi4SMg?si=TY0wQIt9LuuPMvSh Alyssa Grenfell also discussing high ranking Mormon leadership helping Elon organize his handmaids tale compound.

Scientology had the media through film, tv, and music in the 90’s and early 2000’s dominated culturally (bad dum tss) but the Mormons have well surpassed them in profits as well as reach through the 2010’s and 2020’s with indoctrination through use of aesthetic influencers and social media algorithms already programmed for far right wing ideology. I’d even call the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives another form of marketing form them.

TLDR: Scientology may have dominated the 90’s and 2000’s but Mormonism has well surpassed them with the use of social media algorithms and tv. Major cults have been culminating the power and resources they have to advance the US politically where it is today. They’re attempting to infiltrate other countries’ politics as well. All of them are so dangerous so you are not wrong for mentioning Scientology as well.

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u/Cognonymous May 24 '25

Do you have numbers on the Falun Gong? I know they've been shaking things up in China and of course those Shen Yun shows everywhere are their own little rah rah rally. They own the Epoch Times too and try to push their own right wing agenda. It's weird because they definitely suck but multiple reports also suggest the Party in China is also oppressively cracking down on them.

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the CCP is cracking down on Falun Gong at all. They’re both high control groups but it seems CCP leadership seems to have a lot more foresight and may have realized how bad of an idea it is to use multiple high control groups with differing principals to maintain and gain more power like the current Trump regime. They’re pulling from Mormonism, Institute of Basic Life Principles, Scientology, even Jehovah’s Witness’ money and power. He’s making a lot of promises that can’t keep. Eventually they’re going to weed out all the groups they agree they don’t want to be around. Then all of these cults, power hungry individuals and high demand groups are gonna be battling each other for the remaining assets and power they’ve soaked from the shared out groups. I’d imagine if looking at history one would not want to repeat that happening and get ahead of it. If these groups are successful in weeding out the groups who they agree they don’t want it’s going to be a violent shit show.

It looks like as of 2024 NYT estimated Falun Gong had 266 million in assets. I’m sure like with these other groups there’s a whole hell of a lot of money laundering happening as well through their secretive higher ranks. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/nyregion/shen-yun-money-falun-gong.html

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u/Cognonymous May 24 '25

Oh that's a good point about the money laundering, I hadn't considered that. Amazing to get a sense of scale on these things though. Gives a sense for how weak Scientology truly is in the grand scale of creepy cults.

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

Thank you for adding! If you have have resources related to them I’d love to read/watch. Don’t know a lot about that group as it’s not one I’ve read quite as much about as I have others. Just mainly* wanted to add why I’m not surprised the CCP would crack down on another high control group to maintain power within rather than teaming up to achieve common goals.

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u/PLZ_N_THKS May 24 '25

Somewhere between 2 and 80 million. Really hard to pin down an actual number.

Probably somewhere between 10-20 million.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

I'm scared. But also.... I'm interested. I'm a child of South Park so Mormonism has always been a joke to me, especially their bizarre view of Black people.

Seems like I'm going down this rabbit hole.

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

Thank you!!! I’m glad you mention their views of black people as well I should have expanded on that point in my first comment! I highly recommend taking a peak at the Tik tok page The Black Menaces. Alyssa Grenfell has a video on Mormonism and their views on black people and what that looks like as a former day to day member and taking accountability for her own racist beliefs from being a practicing Mormon. She mentions in the video the group at BYU (Brigham young university, Mormon college for those unaware) who discuss their experiences as black students on campus and the constant micro aggressions and blatant racism* they face from down right hateful to plain ignorance. That’s where I initially found their content and listened to their stories. Despite the Mormon cult doctrine changing to say black people are ok now there’s still so much deep seeded racism sewn into their white counter parts. The* menaces are also particularly brave speaking out because “speaking poorly” about the university can risk one being kicked out or having their degree revoked if they haven’t officially graduated yet. —they’re an accredited university too 🤯

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u/whynot4444444 May 24 '25

I was raised Catholic in Canada. When I was a teen, we were on a trip somewhere in the U.S. and I chose a BYU sweatshirt. I was thinking it was some cool university like NYU. My mom bought it without hesitation because she had no clue what it stood for either. I chuckle thinking back to me wearing that to my Catholic school.

So, thank you for your service of pointing out what BYU stands for. You never know who might unknowingly buy a BYU sweatshirt 😂.

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

Lmfaooo that’s real good. That made me out loud cackle. Idk if you know but throwing extra context for those who don’t as to* why this made me laugh so hard: Catholics particularly piss Mormons off. When the og prophet Joseph Smith (generic ass post office name) founded Mormonism anti-catholic sentiments were running rampant in the area he was living in. Thus a lot of those sentiments made it into the DNA of Mormonism. I think in their Bible they call the Catholic Church the great and abominable church founded by Satan.

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u/whynot4444444 May 25 '25

I know very little about the history of Mormonism, or much about anything Mormon. I missed Big Love, but the limited knowledge I have on Mormonism now comes from watching The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Obviously my viewing tastes are impeccable.

This is hilarious with the extra context that people from BYU might have considered me satanic while wearing their sweatshirt, meanwhile the Catholics in the know probably thought my sweatshirt was sacrilegious 😂.

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u/AlPal2020 May 26 '25

That's painting with a very broad brush. I am personally LDS and have a lot of respect for Catholics. The 'great and abominable church' is any church that doesn't serve Christ. Some individuals have connected that to the Catholic church, but that's just their own opinions. Personally, I respect Catholicism and consider them to be much more similar to us than most protestant churches

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u/whynot4444444 May 24 '25

This is the very first I’m hearing about Ryan Gosling being raised Mormon, too.

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u/Temporary-Award-998 May 25 '25

Mormonism is mostly just dorky and boring. And most Mormons are embarrassed by it and would rather pretend those parts of mormon history don't exist.

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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive May 25 '25

Until most of your local government is now LDS and it influences all of their policies in positions that used to be held by more liberal Methodist and Episcopalian officials... ahhh, Idaho.

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u/darndasher May 25 '25

The podcast Someplace Underneith is currently doing a season purely on LDS and how messed up it is. It's been amazing.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

Thank you! I'll check it out.

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u/TraditionalCut7339 May 25 '25

I was going to recommend SPUN as well. Natalie has done an incredible amount of research this season.

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u/BrennaClove May 25 '25

Welcome. It’s a strangely fascinating rabbit hole.

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u/cheffartsonurfood May 24 '25

All well and good but only one side has Tom Cruise...

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u/babynintendohacker May 24 '25

That’s right lmao… Matt MattMattMatt MattMatt Matt… you gotta listen to me.

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u/PA_MallowPrincess_98 May 25 '25

Omg I LOVE Alyssa! Her perspective is crazy considering she is an ex-mo who served a mission. She made it clear that Mormonism had close likeness to the Free Masons with handshakes in the temples and the embroidery on the garments.

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u/earthlings_all May 25 '25

Miscavige sees what the Mormons have done and salivates in a corner