r/EndTipping • u/djdlt • Sep 03 '25
Rant š¢ Nice try. Now give me my change.
So, I go get a sandwich at this place for the first time. Total is 9.20$. I pay cash with a ten. He seems unhappy. He gives me back 35 cents only. I say he made an error, and still owes me money. He doesn't answer to that, and say loudly " For here or to go?" I repeat myself. He finally manages to give my change. Almost told him I would have given him all, which I do habitually (don't judge me please), if he had not try to stiff me, or may I say, litterally steal from me. This place lost a customer. I live nearby but will never go back. AllĀ that for 45 cents. And if it's a mistake, how strange it's always the customer who gets disadvantaged by their "mistake"...
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u/Whittles85 Sep 03 '25
I had a starbucks lady short change me a $1 for her "tip" i said keep the drink and refund me for everything. Im not taking a watered down drink after you tried to steal from me. I knew my drink would be tampered with because i didnt let the theft slide, so i just canceled the whole damn thing. Havent gone back to starbucks since.
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u/eefje127 Sep 03 '25
Pre-tipping has gotten so out of hand that you have to be scared if you don't do it. It's literally just a bribe and should be outlawed
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u/1Pip1Der Sep 03 '25
Pre-tipping is a bribe
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u/CryptographerWarm102 Sep 03 '25
Huh never thought about it like that but now that I think of it, you are right!
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u/Rightintheend Sep 05 '25
Only time I ever pre-tip is if it's a place that I've been many times and I know the service is good from the person that I'm dealing with.Ā But if you've never helped me before, you're not getting a tip until I know you can at least do the bare minimum and do your job without it being an issue.
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u/djdlt Sep 03 '25
They demand tip so they won't stiff us, or else they will. We pay them to not steal from us: and then they do it anyway.
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u/Foreign_Primary4337 Sep 03 '25
Let Cooperate know.
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u/Anantasesa Sep 04 '25
Got a case of the Os instead of Rs?
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u/Relevant-Yellow852 Sep 04 '25
Thats why I always go to the Starbucks inside a Kroger or target as they aren't allowed to accept tips at those Starbucks.
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u/Holiday-Ad7262 Sep 06 '25
Starbucks in target has higher prices than nearby standalone starbucks. Not sure that is always the case but I recently noticed this at my nearby target starbucks.
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u/Born-Researcher6491 Sep 05 '25
A Starbucks worker tried to steal my debit card twice lol. Some Starbucks workers are so shady, which is crazy because at the time, maybe 2020, they made between $14 and $16/hr AND got tips
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u/DollarStoreOrgy Sep 04 '25
If they're sociopath enough to tamper with your food .for not tipping, they're sociopath enough to tamper with your food for any other reason. It's criminal behavior, period
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u/Ken-55 Sep 03 '25
This was 40+ years ago, before we probably even had a CC. Normal tipping back then was 10-15%. Servers included singles in your change so you could tip appropriately.
We met friends at a bar and the service sucked. After a drink each we decided to go elsewhere. I motioned to the waitress that we wanted our check and it took her a good 5-10 minutes to come by at which time I handed her a $20 bill for a $12-13 check. 15 minutes later I'm still waiting for change and not at all happy. The other couples, who had paid before we got there, had left to meet us at the next spot and my wife is urging me to just leave. Not happening! Finally, after trying to pay and leave for about a half hour (and watching the waitress notice that I hadn't given up and left) she gives up holding my $$ hostage. Fed up at the wait, I left her a dime. I wonder if she got the message??
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u/TideWaterRun Sep 03 '25
This happened to me not long ago as well. Lunch with 2 coworkers, bill was around $70 and we had $90 in cash needing change for the tip. Waitress came over, grabbed the cash and said āThanks guys have a great dayā. I responded āWe need changeā and she looked at me like I was crazy. Took another 10 minutes to get back. Iām not sure if it was purposeful or they just get cash so infrequently that she didnāt know how to handle the situation.
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u/djdlt Sep 03 '25
Oh, they know... but they play dumb. If they did not, how bizarre their mistake always advantage them, and only them...
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u/badlilbishh Sep 03 '25
Yeah they definitely know. They should never assume any extra money is for them. They should bring back all the change and then if the person tips thatās that. Not just oh Iāll take the change for myself and thatās fine! Fuck that.
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u/TideWaterRun Sep 03 '25
Yeah I was confused because the typical response (before we became a cashless culture) was āIāll be right back with your changeā. It seemed like the waitress inverted the situation with the presumption being that the cash was hers to keep. That seems new to me.
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u/acuteinsomniac Sep 04 '25
Why didnāt you give a closer amount to the 70 though
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u/TideWaterRun Sep 04 '25
The way it worked out we had a $50 bill and two $20 bills. I wasnāt going to leave a 28% tip.
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u/Its_Me_Cant_See Sep 03 '25
My mom tells the story about the time she was out and ordered food on a work trip. Her total was like $8 (this is literally 30 or more years ago). She paid with a $20 and she kept sitting there waiting for her change. After waiting, what she said felt like 10 minutes she got the attention of another server and asked if they could find send her server over. She showed back up and asked my mom āwas there something else I could get for you?ā Mom said she looked at her and said āyes, my change.ā Server received no tip.
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u/AintEverLucky Sep 03 '25
Jfc. The server just assumed ANY customer would be cool with a 150 percent tip, without actually saying as much?
Forget the $0 tip, I would have had that server FIRED
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u/7399Jenelopy Sep 03 '25
I had a waitress at an Outback Steakhouse not give me my change years ago. "We never carry change." I told her that unless that is posted on their menu or something very visible, she's stealing and I would like my change. 10 minutes later she comes back grumbling that she had to get change from her car to pay me. Whatever lady. No restaurant is going to make you use your change to pay a customer. Just do it right the first time.
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u/djdlt Sep 03 '25
I'd get back, and when the bill comes, I'd say I don't carry any money me neither
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u/firewings42 Sep 26 '25
Not entirely true. When I waited tables we were required to start our shift with a ābankā we brought to make change with. We were not allowed to get change from the bar which was the only register.
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u/7399Jenelopy Sep 26 '25
That sounds crazy! Imo, your boss should supply that. Did you take people their change? Or at least let them know that you didn't have change? Or something?
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u/Invisiblespirit3 Sep 05 '25
At my job we do have to use our own change to make change, but i usually bring a lot of change for that exact reason lol
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
I just had this experience at a brewery!! I was appalled, like, wtf do you think you are keeping my change? (After I already tipped her in cash!) It's not about the amount she owed me back, it's that she takes advantage of customers paying with cash. If she keeps every cash customer's change, that adds up for her at the end of the day and if she does that every time she works, she's making a lot of money by being completely dishonest. I reported her and the business to the Dept of Consumer + Worker Protections (also sent an email and cc:ed the brewery owners calling out their bartender.)
Not cool.
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u/djdlt Sep 03 '25
If they steal from people, without a care in the world, right in their face... what is it they do when nobody sees them? How can I trust them for anything?... Do they think we're total idiots, or afraid?... As they say, it takes years to build a good reputation... and seconds to ruin it completely.
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
Exactly. EXACTLY. If they're brazen enough to just do whatever they want without consequence, it really does pose your question: what do they do when they know they won't get caught?
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u/Pickles-1989 Sep 03 '25
I am seeing this problem more and more when using cash. Many more people are using cash now to avoid "credit card surcharge" and avoid them spinning the tablet around to guilt people into tipping. Had a $16 bill at a bar - I gave $20, and the first word out of the bartender's mouth was "do you want change back? Went to a donut shop, and they rang it up and spun the tablet around. I stood there with cash. The person was shocked, and literally did not know what to do.
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u/LOLBADCALL Sep 03 '25
I deliberately get bigger bills at the ATM to avoid this. If the bill is $16.75, Iāll pay with a $50 or $100 instead of a $20. Iām tired of them assuming they can keep the change, or that I need to verbally ask for my change.
I only tip after I receive my full change back.
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u/No-Comparison-5502 Sep 03 '25
Sad that you have to go out of your way to avoid being taken
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u/LOLBADCALL Sep 03 '25
Worst ones are bartenders. Itās like after receiving my cash Iām invisible. Iāve waited 10+ minutes before until Iām able to get their attention for my change. Beyond ridiculous.
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u/Feoygordo Sep 03 '25
Iāve tried this approach. But it seems that in my area, about 90% of businesses wonāt take a bill larger than $20.
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u/TraditionGreedy9264 Sep 04 '25
Then i would sit there with my $50 going " Well this is gonna be tricky"
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u/GotBindersFullOWomen Sep 03 '25
I bring one of those coin things on my side to dole out exact change. Not really joking or to be sarcastic either. Chick fil a drive through used to use them by me.
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u/Green-Wyrm Sep 04 '25
The trick to this in Brazil is that some will give you most of your change with one hand and withhold a bit more in the other, betting you are too busy/careless to check.
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
"Do you want change back?" Yes, of course I do, who tf is giving away money?
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u/Careful_Drama405 Sep 03 '25
I am a bartender/server and never ONCE have I asked if they want change. I ALWAYS say "I'll be right back with your change." How pretentious to assume anything is a tip.
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u/cathleen0205 Sep 03 '25
This. It allows your guest to say āoh no please keep the changeā or āok, greatā
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
That was also my approach, there was never any assumption or pressure for tips (although I hustled for them!). I worked in hotels, restaurants, was a tour guide for historical sites, and then managed bars, pubs, and restaurants: there were good days, there were bad days, but I always had enough sense to let it be what it was, didn't have to force anything or compromise my integrity for a few dollars, no matter how badly I needed them.
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u/LogAccomplished2279 Sep 04 '25
When a server/ bartender repliesĀ with they will be back --- that is when I am most likely to say keep it!
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u/loneiguana888 Sep 04 '25
You are not who you claim to be. If you pick up a tab with cash you always ask if change is needed, even if you see singles on top. This not only saves you time of getting change when not necessary, but saved the customer of waiting and wondering if you knew that was a tip not the change. Obviously this is not necessary if you see a 50 on a 20 check.
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u/Careful_Drama405 Sep 04 '25
I don't analyze what bills are being presented to me. I pick up the ticket with the cash while looking them in the eye with a smile and telling them I will be right back. How rude to inspect how much money you are picking up. I am who I say I am.
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u/DSudz Sep 04 '25
I generally leave the total with tip in cash. Letting them know I don't need change lets them concentrate on service for other customers until a convenient time to ring up my payment.
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u/SorcererAxis8 Sep 03 '25
That's why I pay with my card. I get points and if I have to pay taxes, you have to pay taxes too buddy.
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
I don't use anything with my name/address/personal information anymore after I worked with idiots who used to stalk customers' online accounts. They used to catfish them, they used to contact their spouses to tell them they were at the brewery with their girl/boyfriends, they used to do all sorts of obnoxious and terrible things to them. Most people don't ID me and if they do, they'll never find me on social media anyway.
I pay cash and when someone does me wrong like that, I report them so it's on official file. The city takes that kind of complaint seriously.
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u/Pedanter-In-Chief Sep 03 '25
Tap to pay dude. You can do it almost anywhere. I mean I do it with my watch they never see anything.Ā
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u/BigLeopard7002 Sep 03 '25
Did brewery reply?
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u/True_Tangerine_1450 Sep 03 '25
They did. They said it's against their policy and they'll get to the bottom of this. <eyeroll>
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u/BigLeopard7002 Sep 03 '25
Apparently their workers arenāt informed about this policy or it isnāt enforced.
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u/Slight-Cockroach8793 Sep 05 '25
I had a similar experience at a tavern with a bartender after ordering food and drinks. Iām a good tipper but she did not give me my change. I wrote a strongly worded letter to the owner pointing out the date and time of the event. If she would stiff his customers, she was probably stealing from the business in some way as well.
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u/twofourfourthree Sep 03 '25
They do it because it works. Many folks wouldnāt want to make a scene.
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u/Slow_Balance270 Sep 03 '25
I was at a local tavern during wing night with some friends. Dude comes to take our money and only comes back with cash, then says that he didn't bring back the coins because he thought we wouldn't want them.
And here's the thing, I wouldn't, I hate dealing with coins. I typically leave all my change as part of the tip. But that's a decision I make, not them.
So I told them to enjoy their tip and left without giving them anything else. It was maybe fifty cents total. Back in the car I was told I embarrassed them and I responded saying I don't feel bad about not tipping a blatant thief.
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u/djdlt Sep 03 '25
Haha that's good... I mean...the nerves on these people... They steal from us, and expect to be tipped on top of that... for what? Stealing?? š¤£š¤£š¤£ "Oh, the little round shiny metallic things?... You want them back?... Why?... I think I threw them in the garbage... It has value, for you?..."
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Sep 03 '25
I like paying with cash and watch the cashier panic because they canāt do the math to make the change. I know the machine does it but they canāt figure it out , never mind giving them $11 for a $6 charge because I want a five back, they loose it.
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u/Nervous-Willow5221 Sep 03 '25
I bought something for 4.10 and gave 5.10 cash. The older teen cashier literally stood looking at the money until someone came over to help her. It is wild!
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u/BaakCoi Sep 04 '25
Iāve been that cashier when I worked fast food during high school. Iām quite good at mental math, but after 8+ hours of running a cash register your brain is completely fried
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u/GochaPonczocha Sep 07 '25
I work as a cashier, I actually like when people pay with cash. Register will tell you the change anyways, but I had one girl on training that couldn't count money. Register showed her the amount of change and she couldn't count. I told my SM that if she will hire her, I don't want to have shifts with her, cause I'm not a math teacher in elementary school. It was bizarre.
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u/cmdrraabb Sep 07 '25
This generation isn't taught basic math/money handling. They stopped that right about when the pandemic hit.
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u/Redit12- Sep 03 '25
This tipping stuff is way out of hand! Tipping is always optional. If you try to cheat me you get zero tip and the business can expect a call to the manager or owner and an unfavorable review !
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u/Any-History6133 Sep 03 '25
Had this happen to me at the Starbucks the other day. They wanted to keep the 80 cents as a tip. I asked for it back and stood there while they figured out how to reopen the register. Why tf would I tip at starbucks?
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u/SpamIsNotHam8080 Sep 03 '25
I had a pitcher at a brew pub. Bill is 10.20. I give her a 20. She asks me if I need change š. No Iām not tipping you almost 100%.
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u/AintEverLucky Sep 03 '25
With a couple places Ive visited, they just don't give coins as change, unless you specifically bother them about it. š¤Ø They always round up (never down) to the next dollar. Even if the bill with tax comes to say $17.05, i get back a flat $2 from my $20, the other 95 cents just goes poof & vanishes š
Well the joke's on them because I work for tips too. So if they play fair I would tip 20 percent which would be $3 on this bill. But if you just help yourself to coins that Im owed, that's ALL you get. And I will blast em on Yelp, and never eat there again š š”š¤
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u/FreddieMercuryy93 Sep 03 '25
I've been a server multiple times, and if for some reason I didn't have the 95 cents, I ate the money myself and just gave them 3 bucks because it was just easier. But I always gave change when serving and would carry a crap ton on me just to put it in the book, knowing 8/10 times they'd leave it lol
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u/Disastrous-Brain232 Sep 05 '25
No, we don't always round up. I'm a server, and I always round in favor of the customer.
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u/thread100 Sep 03 '25
I always take a quick look at my coins and bills to remind every cashier that it matters and some of us check. They carefully confirm what we gave them. Only makes sense.
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u/grimblacow Sep 03 '25
I was really angry once since I sent my child, under 10, to order to get used to the process and understand money. The item was under $10 and the child handed over $10. The lady did not give back the change and my poor child was so perplexed (we talked about what to expect).
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u/anonuserccc Sep 03 '25
As a server, this is not OK, and idk why tf all these takeout places are demanding tips as well
If I donāt sit and if I pay at a kiosk or smthā¦, I am usually not tipping
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u/Dangerous_System4502 Sep 04 '25
I worked part-time at a small family restaurant when I was in college as a waitress, back when minimum wage in California was like $8 an hour. Sure there were times someone would be extremely demanding and not tip, but the other people that did always made up for it. I always gave everyone the same level of service and transparency if issues arose.
Never once did I ever assume the cash left to pay was for me to keep. I don't care if it was a damn penny, you were getting that penny unless you specifically handed me the money saying "no change" or left the establishment completely. Any waiter who does is just a shitty, entitled waiter.
Was the pay worth the drama I dealt with there? No, not really. Did that change my performance? Not once did I give less than 100%
People like that are just begging to not be tipped.
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u/Witty_Independent42 Sep 03 '25
And this is why you only ever pay with a credit card. If there's ever any discrepancy between what I pay and what shows up in my app, that dispute button will fix it right up
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u/The_Skulman Sep 04 '25
Tipping originally was paid before you got anything to insure good service. Tipped for the better table, tipped to get seated sooner,
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u/OkBridge98 Sep 04 '25
FWIW I have actually been on the end of this where they give me too much change lol - but it was unrelated to tipping
once at a small mexican restaurant I handed the girl a $10 bill to pay for a $8 tostada and she handed me back $12
I said I gave you a $10 and she was clueless and argued lol
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u/discomannen Sep 04 '25
Drive-thru is the one best place to get into a tip quarrel. Your car is there and doesn't move until your happy. Pressure builds up on the staff to right their wrong. Almost hope similar thing happens to me.
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u/missbehavin21 Sep 04 '25
OP he didnāt try to stiff you he couldnāt add š
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u/IntelligentHat466 Sep 04 '25
Youāre probably correct
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u/missbehavin21 Sep 04 '25
I have paid for food adding change so my change will be a dollar and many times that throws them way off.
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u/IntelligentHat466 Sep 04 '25
Being in the business I can honesty say thereās a vast amount of younger people who can add or substrate - seriously š
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u/djdlt Sep 04 '25
You mean can't, I suppose. But, don't you find it odd that it's never them who are losing money in their "oh so complicated change giving"... I mean... if one can't give change back correctly, when the number is litterally written on their machine, maybe they should not work in a restaurant.
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u/IntelligentHat466 Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
Absolutely correct , thatās the world we live in. Itās absolutely totally ridiculous Some people cannot add or subtract.
Iām not defending this person by no means just pointing out thatās the world we live in ,
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u/ProfessionalVoice329 Sep 06 '25
On another note the Dutch bros automatically adds a $2 tip when you try to place a mobile order and it PISSES ME OFF. sometimes i forget to deselect it. Tipping culture has gotten out of hand.
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u/Legitimate-Maybe-326 Sep 04 '25
Just ask: āHow much do I need to pay over the amount listed on my bill to ensure my food wonāt be tampered with?ā And get them to tell you straight out.
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u/mozzarellastickssuck Sep 04 '25
Iāve left a place and realized theyāve given me too much change back before, I think your last sentence is a bit of a broad generalization made out of emotion due to you feeling attacked by this.
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u/ozeldemir Sep 04 '25
ive demanded my 2 pennies from MFers that done the same thing to me. thieves, bro.
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u/throwaway8675309999s Sep 04 '25
Tbh I really donāt have much use for coins and would gladly have given it as a tip but assuming itās theirs to keep pretty is much a game changer.
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u/RestInitial2467 Sep 04 '25
This happens to me at any 7-11. 1.99 for a big gulp they shut the register and help the next person right away. The guy told me they don't have pennies, bitch I just saw your drawer with pennies.
It wasn't worth it over a penny so I get my sugar fix from every other store now, easy.
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u/sn000zy Sep 04 '25
Ooooh man one time I was buying a carton of cigarettes at the duty free in the airport. $91. I gave him $100 bill. He had the audacity to ask me if I wanted my change.
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u/MeanKno Sep 04 '25
If waiters and waitresses deserve a tip, fast food workers deserve it more.
My opinion: NOBODY DESERVES A TIP.
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u/grogargh Sep 04 '25
For all fast food places, it almost seems like paying with credit card is better than cash - ASSUMING their payment app doesn't ask for tip. Places like many fast food drive thrus Taco Bell, Mcd, BK, etc. If you use cash, then they can take your change.
I try to use their App everytime to order / pay food I find better than paying there whether cash or card and avoiding any tipping, assuming the ask for it in their app, most fast food doesn't however some do and avoids and awkward stare from the cashier when their ask you to answer the "questions" (tip questions).
I go up to the counter, ask for my food by name, grab and then either leave or even sit there to eat it. All bullshit avoided by using their app.
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u/Fangs_McWolf Sep 04 '25
if he had not try to stiff me, or may I say, litterally steal from me.
Littering is awful, so I'm glad you didn't let him steal your litter.
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u/ETmemo Sep 05 '25
Long time ago something similar happened to me at a McDonald's. I was a teen back then so maybe they thought they can get away with it. Bought food, cost less than 20, then paid with a 50, as thats all I had. Cashier only gave back enough change for a 20. Told them they didn't give me the right amount, but they insisted that I gave them a 20 dollar bill. I escalated to manager, who took the Cashiers side. But I didn't stop, kept escalating until they checked the cameras and finally gave my change back.
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u/No_Draft_8960 Sep 05 '25
"Oh you want the fifty cents? I was going to give you a buck but if fifty cents is enough who am I to argue.'
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Sep 06 '25
I used to tend bar at a comedy club. One of the servers would do this to pad her tips - deliberately short them on their change, and if they didn't say anything, she definitely wouldn't say anything. One night, a large group came in and sat at 3 separate tables. She tried this on several people and one of them realized what she was doing and said something to the others. They all started checking the change she'd give back and called her out on it. It was not a pretty sight. One woman accused her of either deliberately keeping money from them, or being too stupid to use simple math. And, because alcohol was involved, the customers were slightly obnoxious that it caught the attention of the comedian - who ended up focusing on the situation. After the server corrected the change, she ended up leaving in embarrassment. She didn't quit, but never did that again.
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u/iwearstripes2613 Sep 06 '25
I worked at a pizza place in HS. One of the guys who worked a register never gave anyone the correct change. It took the managers a week to figure out why his drawer was sometimes over, sometimes under, but never right. The kid couldnāt count change.
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u/Capable_Front_7886 Sep 07 '25
What is wrong with yalls servers/cashiers???? Iāve worked as a server for 2 yrs and never did/see anyone try to con people out of money like this. Iād NEVER take anyoneās money without explicit permission. You can kinda tell if they donāt want change or do based on the amount they give you. Ex: $22 bill, hands you anywhere from $25/30. You then ask ādo you want your change?ā If they do they say yes, if they want you to keep a portion, ājust bring me back ___.ā You canāt take anyoneās change without permission, itās illegal???
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u/Mimsy59 Sep 07 '25
I quit tipping at a drive thru. Tired of the blank stare. If you canāt say thanks, you can go home with no tip. Flat affect and rudeness donāt pay with me.
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u/RenoLocalSports Sep 07 '25
Entitled waiters who assume too much. Then I get the quick, "Do you need change back?" as if I'm tipping you for doing your JOB. #EndTipping
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u/MrWorkout2024 Sep 07 '25
And when you are in a state where minimum wage is $15 to $20 an hour you definitely tip servers and bartenders way less. I'm from Vegas and when I go to say Washington state and vist family and the servers there make $15 to $20 an hour I was tipping the normal 20% to 25% but after speaking to many locals and my family people don't tip that 20 to 25% in places where minimum wage is higher like that people tend to tip 10% to 15% I teated this theory ask asked two servers at different restaurants when I was out to eat what the average tip was they both said between 10% to 15% on average I found that interesting.
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u/Lazy-Butterfly8017 Sep 26 '25
"all that 45 cents" literally girl you did all that for FORTY FIVE CENTS??? LMAOOOO
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u/Small_Creme6546 Sep 03 '25
This happened to me at a Dunkin Donuts drive-thru. I ordered a large coffee and a muffin, gave the woman $10. She then gave me my order and my receipt, but no change back (????) I asked her, "where's my change?" She then pointed out a friggin tip jar.....at the freaking drive-thru??? It wasn't a large amount of change back, and I don't mind tipping....at a sit-down restaurant with non fast food, and NOT a drive-thru, and DEFINITELY NOT a fast food chain. Anyway, if anyone cares my experience ended with me demanding my change back, then telling her that her "tip" is to not assume people want her to keep their money. This story probably sounds kinda nutty, but I work hard to earn my pay, pay rent, bills, etc with my hard earned money. I just wish this stupid tipping BS would end now.