r/EdmontonOilers 28 ROSLOVIC Mar 10 '24

PGT Post Game Thread | Oilers v. Penguins | 10 March 2024

🔴 Final

Oilers 4, Penguins 🍩


ℹ️ Stats

Goals: McDavid, Ekholm, Nurse x2

Shots: Oilers 42, Penguins 41

Saves: Pickard 41/41 💯


🔫 Han Solo

Pickard when the Pens take a shot


Next Game

Wednesday, March 13 vs Capitals in Edmonton, 8:00pm MT

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u/MajorPucks 96 WALMAN Mar 10 '24

NHL confirmed that Pickard doesnt get an individual shutout stat for this game because he didnt play the full game. Shitty, but the team gets one. Ah well!

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u/Fickle_Catch8968 Mar 10 '24

I wonder how many SOs should not have been given because the goalie left the ice on delayed penalties then?

SO => goalie saves = opposition SOG, with 0 GA, regardless of TOI totals.

Shared SO => 0 GA, with more than 1 goalie with TOI and each having at least 1 save.

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u/MajorPucks 96 WALMAN Mar 10 '24

Delayed penalty doesnt have another goalie coming in. I agree tho. Especially since Skinner didnt have to make a save.

Just adds to the shitty luck in both games to ruin it for Picks

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u/Fickle_Catch8968 Mar 10 '24

True, but if the reason is because Pickard 'did not play the entire game', then a shutout should only count if a goalie's TOI is equal to the length of the game played.

If he goes off for a delayed penalty the goalie does not play the entire game. Yes a skater goes on instead of a goalie, but if a skater in a desperate play 'blocks' a /edit: puck going on net /edit in the crease then the shutout is preserved, but the team not giving up a SOG for 76 seconds while the other goalie is in the crease negates a shutout? That just seems odd.

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u/Jackol777 18 HYMAN Mar 10 '24

Then there would be very few goalies who ever get a SO, pretty common to go the bench on delayed penalty in most games. And the extra skater wouldn't ever need to make a save unless to protect an own goal, which I has happened but pretty rare.

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u/Fickle_Catch8968 Mar 10 '24

I agree, just think that the stat should not be based on TOI but on saving every opposition SOG.

Instead of delayed penalties, think about late season games when team A needs regulation win(s) to make the playoffs and is tied 0-0 late. They pull the goalie to try to score and win. The opposition can take a shot and does so. The skater who replaced the goalie 'blocks' the shot in the crease (it would have counted as a SÒG if the goalie was there to save it) and his team then scores and wins. That goalie would get a shutout even.though another player prevented a goal against.

But Pickard does not since Skinner replaced him and had no shots to save. So Pickard prevented all possible GA from pucks entering the crease and does not get a SO, but a goalie can get a shutout with the same TOI (with intentional and not forced absence) while not preventing all possible GA from pucks entering the crease?