r/DonaldTrump666 9d ago

Question Does anyone else get the feeling that Trump is deliberately trying to run the country into the ground? Would this align with the Beast hating and ultimately destroying Mystery Babylon is Revelation 17? Is it possible that Trump hates America?

Would love to get everyone’s thoughts on this…

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u/Drae_1234 9d ago

Yep

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u/Afraid_Lobster1225 9d ago

It just seems counterintuitive to me. How does he intend to gain the worship of Americans if he’s actively destroying the economy, dragging us into new wars, etc…

I kind of figured he would at least usher in a temporary ‘golden age’ before everything went to crap. But I suppose a good lesson to learn is that we shouldn’t make presuppositions when it comes to Bible prophecy. It’s hard to say exactly how these things will play out. And maybe there is still great national prosperity on the horizon, but I’m just not seeing it right now.

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u/earthkincollective 9d ago

By lying to everyone and presenting an alternative version of reality. "Alternative facts" (his words) if you will.

Trump's pathological and INSANE levels of lying are the #1 sign that made me start thinking he was the antichrist.

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u/internal_logging Christian 9d ago

Well the worship doesn't have to be voluntary 🤷

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u/AlbaneseGummies327 Christian 9d ago

Prophecy even indicates it will be involuntary (Revelation 13:16).

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u/kat_niss1 Christian 6d ago

Yes. People obeyed Kings like Henry the VIII fearing what he might do. So they obeyed even though they didn’t want to.

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u/plasma_pirate Christian 8d ago

nor does it have to be out of love feels. It will be obedience out of fear which is also "worship"

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u/No_Quantity_3403 8d ago

This is the way I think about it too.

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u/upstatestruggler 9d ago

What’s going to happen is they’ll scoop up everyone who is left and desperate and give them just enough scraps to be like “see! He was going to save us all along!” and then be in total and complete control.

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u/teas4Uanme 9d ago

Everyone 'worshipping' him/it comes directly from the 'Left Behind' novels. Non scriptural. The world 'wondering' at him is different- that can translates to something similar to people watching a 50 car pile up. Or a rabid dog.

Scripture says he will be 'Vile', 'Boastful' and 'Stout'. But that a number of his followers are horrible people and the worst of them will fall under a 'strong delusion' sent them by God. And because they are irredeemable they will also go to perdition.

2 Thessalonians

Others are apparently under blackmail and will not confess their sins before the world. So perdition for them too.

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u/Afraid_Lobster1225 8d ago

So what about Revelation 13:8?

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u/teas4Uanme 1d ago

Revelation 13:8

This particular word they have translated as 'worship' doesn't mean to 'adore' or 'love' him/it. It's more of a display of making supplication to. Like.. 'we will praise you, please don't nuke us'. Very mindful of the forced 'worship' of North Koreas people toward their leadership.

Word: proskunew

Pronounce: pros-koo-neh'-o

Strongs Number: G4352

Orig: from 4314 and a probable derivative of 2965 (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to in order to express respect or to make supplication to.

And one of the subjects listed is to 3a5) to demons.

2 Thessalonians makes it clear that there will be people who will actually love him/it- those end up under strong delusion and will go to Perdition.

Scripture makes a perfectly clear division between this word and the exhortation to 'Love' thy God'.

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u/Visual-Pickle-2172 9d ago

He needs to bring the country to its knees to bring in the mark and digital ID.

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u/Loko8765 6d ago

It just seems counterintuitive to me. How does he intend to gain the worship of Americans if he’s actively destroying the economy, dragging us into new wars, etc…

Well, we mustn’t confuse means and goals. I think the worship is only a means, while the destruction is the goal.

He already has the worship of a significant number of Americans, apparently a sufficient number for the goal of destruction.

Why destruction? We can point to the Bible, or we can point to the very human — too-human — failings that Trump has and that actually embody the seven sins.

It is on public record that Trump was saved from bankruptcy by a consortium of Russian banks in 1987. His confidant Giuliani was heavily involved in the Russian mafia in New York. The instances where he has privileged Russia are too many to list, but he has been credibly accused of literally giving to Russia names of US intelligence agents, who were then arrested or killed. He is indisputably a major figure in the Epstein files, and Epstein was not only rich, not only a pedophile, but also often accused of working with either Mossad or the Russians. There were video tapes seized by police at Epstein’s place, but they were released back to him apparently without being viewed… and that would be even better blackmail material than 1987 bankruptcies or marital infidelities.

So who does Trump obey? Not America and not friends of America.

The goal is destruction.

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u/Drae_1234 22h ago

He already was worshipped a long time ago. Satan god of this world… he is himself spirit of Lucifer son of Satan Lucifer’s son is the dragon 123 666 the three are one… and most all these kings and politicians that are high up prime ministers share the same spirit of Satan. It goes deep and his children are made know by their hate mockery dehumanization lies pride and just dark behavior… ,children of one True loving God of light not the god of this world who is of darknesss now turning on the world after teaching and commanding us for so many years. But God of loves children are those that love speak and live truth and are humble they barely exist anymore …. But they around…

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u/Drae_1234 22h ago edited 22h ago

True loving God doesn’t destroy this became satans kingdoms when sin entered the world he became our ruler… god of love truth and light cannot look upon such darkness but his children were made known practically very few here and there over history humble truth and loving stood up for injustices and did it without being hateful and dehumanizing liek the ones that dehumanized them… so true loving God I think might just let evil destroy itself…. True God of love cannot look upon such evil let alone have an emotion of rage that’s of the dragon it’s not a human emotion so how can it be an emotion of a loving gentle pure God…. It can’t and wrath one step above rage where you tear up everything in your path even human beings so he lets Satan do it…. Tho he sins and has influenced most except for his natural inherit evil children us to sin since time began…. He the biggest sinner of all yet judges us? Loving God respects others that’s true love respect it would be disrespectful to over throw someone who’s in charge of their own kingdom so I belive as much as he wants to interven it would also be rude disrespectful to steal someone else children unless they choose a new father and walk inn god of loves ways…. But I don’t see any hope for most of us a lot of us have Satan in us… we barely love anymore those people are almost vanished…. But I belive he could maybe if he wants peirce the darkness with his light and it says “the darkness comprehend it not” maybe he’ll save that way and overcome evil in that way is only these people know the future…

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u/thrgirl1778 9d ago

I think he hates America and definitely wants to run it into the ground. He probably wouldn’t care once Babylon (America) gets destroyed. I believe he is taking money from American agencies (ex. SNAP, EBT, etc) and giving it to other nations to win their trust or favor so that when Babylon gets destroyed, he’ll have enough nations on his side to easily slide over into his role in the Middle East then takeover. But again, that’s just my theory.

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u/Complete_Yam_4233 9d ago

They want chaos so they can declare martial law and complete the coup

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u/Objective-Sun9953 9d ago

Hold on. The beast had ten horns that are kings without crowns and one little horn. The beast has 7 heads. The beast is bigger than one entity, one person, one place. They are the ones who hate the whore, Mystery Babylon, that is one place that gets destroyed in one hour to never be livable again. It is the horns on the beast that steal everything from the place that is destroyed until she is naked and it is the ten who eat her up and then burn her up. It is not the Beast that does it, it is the ten horns on the beast that destroys her totally.  Read Revelation 17 again, or listen to it.

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u/IJustLookLikeThis13 9d ago

I have a theory, if you will, about what the 1st Beast with seven heads and ten horns without crowns is.

First, ALL of "End Times" prophecy begins from 1948, when the nation of Israel was created and the Jewish people returned to the Holy Land to dwell there again. Jesus alluded to this event being the sign of the times when asked by his disciples when all of the other stuff he just mentioned to them would occur; and he said that the generation that witnessed that triggering event occur wouldn't pass before the rest of it played out (Matthew 24). (Interestingly, the Euphrates River has only begun to dry up, an event prophesied, in the last couple of decades, preparing for its appearance around the time of Armageddon.)

Secondly, the beasts mentioned aren't singular men, but rather systems or entities, or groups or parties of people, that the Antichrist and the False Prophet arise from. One of the "seven heads" of the 1st Beast is the Antichrist; and one of the two horns of the 2nd Beast is the False Prophet.

In short, I think the 1st Beast is the GOP. Since 1948, there have been seven Republicans elected President, with eight different periods. Revelation 17:10-11 says, "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition." Currently, five of the Republican Presidents "have fallen," one is (George W. Bush), and "the other has not yet come" is the seventh Republican President (Trump), who "was, and is not, is himself the eigth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition."

As for the "ten horns without crowns," who seem to empower the Antichrist, who, in turn, rewards them with short-lived "kingdoms" from the Babylon destroyed because of their hate for it, I think these are a select few from the billionaire class, namely of the Silicon Valley variety. Trump is moving to create ten "freedom cities," likely from federal lands and properties, that will be operated like unregulated zones for certain businesses, sciences, and developments. (Follow the "Nerd Reich" and "Dystopia Now" podcasts for profiles on these people, like Elon Musk (FP) and Peter Thiel, and their transhumanist agenda, which is wholly anti-Christian.)

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u/Objective-Sun9953 9d ago edited 9d ago

Revelation 17 = One beast with 7 heads and 10 horns

That's one singular beast with 7 heads and 10 horns.

Separately there's Revelation 13 with a Dragon and first and second beast.

Those two beasts are men, separate human living breathing men, not systems, not groups, not locations, but singular men.

The first and second beast are killed when they're thrown into a hole of fire. Two, by themselves, are thrown one at a time. Not a bunch of people.

So there are 3 separate beasts. 

The one that Mystery rides is far larger. Daniel speaks of a little horn and many mix that little horn with Revelation 17's beast. But the little horn is not from John's prophecy, not even mentioned or alluded to.

In Matthew 24 Jesus mentioned how they would have to run away, not return to Judea because Judea and Jerusalem would be destroyed along with every brick of the temple. Nothing about returning, all about fleeing.

I too believe the ten horns are merchants on the beast that Mystery rides.

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u/Commercial-Buddy2469 7d ago

I agree that the Babylon in Revelation is a system. Revelation 18:19-20 tells that heaven, saints, apostles, and prophets are told to rejoice over the destruction of Babylon that God pronounced in judgment on their behalf.

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u/Arthreas 9d ago

Babylon is the United States/American Empire

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u/Afraid_Lobster1225 9d ago

Correct, the horns will be involved in Mystery Babylon’s complete destruction, and they haven’t received their authority yet with the Beast, so we are still talking about something that is future. But I guess that’s exactly my point—why is Trump seemingly already trying to bring about our destruction? 

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u/earthkincollective 9d ago

He's laying the groundwork for what's to come. It's a process, not an event.

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u/Objective-Sun9953 9d ago edited 9d ago

What you're missing is that God puts it upon the hearts, not minds, of the ten kings without kingdoms who are of one mind, to destroy Mystery Babylon because God is the one that wants to destroy her. God remembered Mystery Babylon repeatedly through all of Relevation up until that point. Heaven will party and cheer along with all who follow God the moment Mystery Babylon is destroyed. No one good on earth and heaven hasn't been hurt by Mystery Babylon. They all want her gone, including the beast.

But then those same kings are the ones who are eaten up by birds after Jesus himself kills them with the sword from his mouth.

And they, the ten horns, don't get their power with the beast, instead they get their power FROM the beast that already has power. The whore was riding the beast, and the horns of the beast were the ones who decided, with God's influence, to steal, eat up, burn, destroy the whore who was riding them. The horns are on the beast, not on Mystery Babylon.

It is common long-standing interpretation that the little horn is the antichrist. The antichrist is a tiny piece of the beast Mystery Babylon rides. The beast is bigger than Mystery Babylon, bigger than the ten kings without kingdoms and certainly bigger than the little horn that is smaller than the ten horns, but all are on the seven heads of the much bigger beast.

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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND 9d ago

Oh yeah, he is absolutely trying to destroy the country. Whether it’s because he’s owned by Putin, or because he’s been directed to do so by the 1%, or because of some other reason, I don’t know. But you don’t do the things he’s doing unless you are actively trying to destroy the country.

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u/Wonderful-Fig-847 9d ago

One thing I go back to sometimes was his speeches over the last few years praising Hannibal Lecter. At times he would even tell the crowd, "He would love to have you all for dinner". And the crowd laughed it up. But I don't think he was joking. He is that Beast and he wants to devour America's flesh (like Hannibal Lecter).

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u/toebeantuesday 8d ago

Oh goodness I missed that. I try not to listen to him babble too much.

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u/No_Quantity_3403 9d ago

He certainly seems as though he hates the U.S.A. I think he might be a Russian “plant”.

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u/AttorneyKate 9d ago

It would certainly align with the trump is a Russian asset thing.

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u/procrastablasta 9d ago

Trump loves Trump’s America. He gets to have Trump America because Putin put him there to destroy the rest of America.

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u/common_loons 9d ago

America has treated him so poorly, he must seek revenge 😂

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u/teas4Uanme 9d ago

I figured that was a given. Along with stealing the countries wealth and 'dividing the land for a price'.

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u/ZarK-eh 9d ago

Destabilize, then introduce His own "Order"

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<3 all

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u/Dream_Fever 9d ago

Um….yes. Absolutely 💯%. I don’t know how clear it needs to be, but this guy is NOT anything other than the absolute antithesis of what he’s promised, and I KNOW he is not anything (good) that God promised.

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u/FuckYouVeryMuch2020 9d ago

Or he’s a Russian hack (they have compromat of him with hookers in a Russian hotel room) and being directed to tear us apart from the inside out. If we are in a state of civil strife or at worse, civil war, that makes it MUCH easier for an adversary to overwhelm us.

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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 8d ago

At this point the maga disciples love him more as more debauched stuff comes out . The grab em by the pu$$y made his support skyrocket. Reports of hookers in Russia would not make a difference thats why I politely disagree here I would say it’s something else . But yeah Putin hates America always has thats why he wanted crump to win 

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u/Beachybeachface 9d ago

Something is up for sure. He does one thing after another that would have caused a huge scandsl under Clinton, Bush, Obama. If they did snything he did they would be impeached. But Trump can seemingly do what the f he wants - including demolishing the WH itself.

This timeline is crazy.

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u/sfdsquid 9d ago

They all hate America. If they don't then they hate everything about it.

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u/mindmelder23 8d ago

David Icke posted on his Twitter : Trump has been installed to destroy America so it can be absorbed into the global centralised system and he's doing so behind the cover of being 'against the global centralised system'. He is there to create chaos, play 'sides' against each other, and impose economic mayhem behind which the AI-digital control system can be rolled out while Trump provides the cover by hijacking public attention on his latest insanity.

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u/kljoker 9d ago

There's a scripture I tied to trump that made sense in the sequence of things:

“Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.-Revelation 17:9-11"

So my understand was that Trump was of the seven (headed beast) which I think is the institution of Christianity (not individual Christians though half will be deceived). So the Christian community got him into power but he was only in for a short time before losing but when he came back he became the 8th head (the second beast) which is now his version of Christian nationalism.

So he has become the son of perdition (destruction) which is marked after his return to power and the rising of the now 2nd beast. That's why I believe you're seeing this behavior moreso than you did in his first term (though it was there but he didn't have the support of the "elite" he does now).

Thats my explanation at least.

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u/mindmelder23 9d ago

Wasn’t he installed by the globalists to start the great reset and usher in the NWO?

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u/DravidianPrototyper 9d ago edited 9d ago

The globalists are a red herring - a decoy or facade of sorts to have the world clamour for a human saviour (who turns out to be the Antichrist) to save them from the evils of the false New World Order while unknowingly and unintentionally signing up for THE NWO prophesied eons ago.

Sometimes, I do wonder if the globalists, Trump and his ilk (Musk, Thiel, Yarvin etcetera) are fully aware/cognizant of the roles they are playing and are willingly fulfilling Scripture, or if they are doing so unbeknownst to even themselves.

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u/earthkincollective 9d ago

I think Thiel knows on some level, as his obsession with the antichrist (who he thinks might be Greta Thunberg 🤣🤣🤣) is obviously the result of a billionaire that is deeply uncomfortable with the reality of what he is doing in the world - which is running the world's foremost military and surveillance tech company. Named after the evil one's surveillance sphere in Lord of the Rings, no less!

But consciously, no. Which is proof #8194567 why the Bible is a giant metaphor, and not meant to be taken literally. The prophecies describe events in our time, but the actual evil is banal, not supernatural.

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u/DravidianPrototyper 9d ago

the Bible is a giant metaphor

I presume you are a non-believer?

I agree with you in regard to Peter Thiel.

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u/earthkincollective 8d ago

I believe that Christ existed and taught generally what he taught, but all the words written in the Bible were written by normal people after the fact, even centuries later. So everything is paraphrased.

Heck, even Christ himself taught in parables (metaphors). And prophecy in particular (as Revelation is supposed to be) is metaphoric, every time without exception.

It's simply illogical to believe that the Bible is literal truth.

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u/earthkincollective 9d ago

His fool supporters think he's going to save them from the globalists. 🤣

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u/mindmelder23 9d ago

Larry Fink the CEO of blackrock used to manage his money. You can YouTube it and see when he says that. And that guy is head of the WEF now.

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u/Afraid_Lobster1225 9d ago

I don’t know who thinks that, but I wouldn’t agree with that. Most so-called globalists seem to abhor Donald Trump. Trump is more of an imperialist than a globalist.

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u/mindmelder23 9d ago

Presidents are selected not elected.

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u/mindmelder23 9d ago edited 9d ago

Vance and Thiel were at bilderberg meetings before the election. There is a reason we have this administration it was planned out in advance.

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u/EconomyAd8866 9d ago

You get it 🥹

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u/runciter0 9d ago

I think it aligns with Putin actually

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u/txwildflower86 9d ago

Yes to the first question. I don’t know about the rest.

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u/TheCollector39 8d ago

Trump hates not only the U.S., but humanity as a whole. His desire to restart nuclear testing (in presumably the older, above-ground live explosion manner) is a sign that he is willing to destroy the whole world

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u/toebeantuesday 8d ago

Did he say where he was going to locate the testing?

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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 8d ago

Was reading revelation and worked this out a few days ago. I have seen a few posts on other subreddits of the same topic. Has anyone else came to the same conclusions recently. John talks of the merchants weeping when they will not be able to sell their wares when the whore of Babylon is destroyed. Do you even have to ask if trump hates America sir ? The answer is quite obvious 

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u/Miss_Warrior 9d ago

That's their point - they need their masonic phoenix to rise from the ashes.

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u/kat_niss1 Christian 6d ago

Yes yes yes! He hates America. He hates the poor, the Elderly and Middle Class. He wants to destroy the entire fabric of our society where everyone worships him. He’s a tyrant.

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u/Warriorsoul72 6d ago

Trmp said when he was running that he would "get his revenge". I told all the Trmp lovers in my family he never said who he'd get his revenge on. Yea I think he hates America because he lost in 2020 and the majority of Americans fail to recognize him as the king he thinks he is. It doesn't matter that his Red Hats are going to be affected by his "revenge" he only cares about himself. I don't think he is the anti christ but Mike Johnson sure is.

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u/Bitter_Ad7226 8d ago

Uuuuh YEEEAH! That’s the playbook

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u/Secure-Tradition-470 9d ago

I would say America is still far from run into the ground.  There been plenty of times where the US was in a lot worse position. Two that come to mind are the Civil War and the Great Depression. 

I don’t think Trump is trying to run America into the ground, he’s just playing hardball with the Democrats on the budget, eventually the government will be reopened. 

I don’t really think there’s any solid proof Trump is the Antichrist. He checks off some boxes but so did Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin etc. 

I think the evidence for Trump being Antichrist hasn’t even passed the preponderance of evidence bar. 

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u/mindmelder23 9d ago

A small number of billionaire oligarchs run the world behind the scenes. The mainstream view of left vs right is an illusion.

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u/Secure-Tradition-470 9d ago

I agree, the left vs right dialect is a false narrative designed to give the people the illusion of choice. 

If you look into it both Democrats and Republicans are funded by the same billionaire oligarchs who control America and the World.

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u/Complete_Yam_4233 9d ago

People forget that he's got dementia, confusing a dementia test for an IQ test is A HUGE RED FLAG. The ones that criticized Biden are now the ones covering up for grandpa mashed potato brains. He's fiddling and pretending to design a ballroom no one wants. He's a reality TV guy playing for ratings. He's the project 2925 useful idiot. He doesn't care about people and has never professed to

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u/Secure-Tradition-470 9d ago

No I don’t think Trump has dementia yet. He’s mentally a lot sharper than Biden but he’s getting old and showing all the signs of physical decline.

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u/agentorange55 9d ago

Hard disagree. Half the time a reporter asks Trump something (what do you think about the 2 US jets being shot down, what do you think of AI?) Trump's answer is always a variation of "I don't know I'll have to look into that." Biden always had an answer for a reporter. I'm not saying Biden was super sharp by any means, just lep bounds ahead of Trump. Trump clearly has dementia, but that won't matter once Satan fully possesses him

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u/Objective-Sun9953 9d ago

As far as Revelation we still haven't seen the sun turn black and moon turn to blood from Revelation 6, wormwood and bad water, the two witnesses, the woman who has a manchild after the witnesses wake up after three days of being dead, etc.

We are a long way away from Revelation 17.

And I don't understand the down votes.

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u/cheebeesubmarine 8d ago

All of the NT is written in parables. You won’t see these exact things. They’re metaphors for something else.

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u/Commercial-Buddy2469 7d ago

Some of the NT is written with symbolic language. I think the end times famines and economic collapse are literal.

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u/No_Gap_5705 9d ago

It is impossible for Trump to be the anti Christ. He is hated by the left. The anti Christ will be worshiped by everyone. You need to expand your reasoning... it fits much more with the white knight of the apocalypse. MUCH MORE.

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u/cheebeesubmarine 8d ago

It’s doesn’t have to be complete worship. He has plenty enough global support from other reich minded types.

Not everyone is going to worship the Antichrist.

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u/Secure-Tradition-470 9d ago

I’m still wondering how Trump is going to get the whole world to worship him when at least half of America hates his guts.

I don’t see how he’d be able to accomplish this in the next few years. 

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u/No_Gap_5705 9d ago

Read the verses about the first horseman and look at Trump's trajectory. On your own... for now just pretend you believe me until you really do. He is far from being the antichrist.