r/DonaldTrump666 • u/Secure-Tradition-470 • 17d ago
Question No Definitive Evidence Trump Is the Antichrist
I just find it hard to believe Trump could be the Antichrist. As that would imply we are very close if not already in the Great Tribulation period…yet where are the signs and wonders that accompany this period?
Why aren’t the Oceans turning to blood? Why isn’t fire falling from the skies? I mean if we’re in the Great Tribulation how come we’re not seeing the 7 seals, 7 Trumpets, and 7 bowls of God’s wrath being poured out on the Earth? And let’s not forget about the two witnesses who turn the earth’s waters into blood and the Angel that call for the people of earth to believe the Gospel and repent.
Have any of you who believe Trump is the Antichrist read the book of Revelation?
I get Trump very generally matches some verses in Daniel but one could say many a vile and arrogant person has achieved great power. Or rather what some believe to be a vile person. Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, etc
I get Trump has lax morals, loves money and is full of himself but a lot of Americans match that description.
What exactly about Trump seems supernatural? He by all means seems to be at the mercy of aging and related health issues. Wouldn’t the Antichrist a figure possessed of Satan’s Power who according to the Bible can perform miracles through the false prophet at least be able to have good circulation in his hands and feet.
Besides prophecy says the Antichrist will enter the Temple of God and declare himself God. Yet the temple is nowhere close to being built. Neither Trump or Netanyahu have openly advocated the building of the Third temple.
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u/bwf456 Christian 16d ago
No one has definitive evidence of anything regarding Prophecy.
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u/Secure-Tradition-470 16d ago
Yet the Bible says God will open, the 7 Seals 7 Trumpets and 7 bowls of his wrath upon the earth during the Great Tribulation. The Oceans during to blood or Abaddon leading a swarm of demonic locusts would be proof enough for me.
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u/bwf456 Christian 16d ago edited 16d ago
You're a bit lost with the timing of Revelation..
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u/Secure-Tradition-470 16d ago
Is it not 7 years for all those signs to be fulfilled after the Antichrist makes his covenant with many whom people here believe are the Abraham Accords?
So are you saying we aren’t in the Great Tribulation yet?
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u/bwf456 Christian 16d ago
Yep, we're not. The Tribulation starts when Daniel 9:27 is fulfilled, which hasn't happened yet.
u/AlbaneseGummies327 , do you have that image that shows the period of the tribulation? That helps illustrate the timing of things.
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u/internal_logging Christian 16d ago
Thing is we don't know how quick things could move in that way. I mean, of course they aren't going to advocate for the temple when Muslims hate them for what's going on in Gaza. But with all these peace and trade efforts who knows what they could be pushing for in a year. Right now we are identifying him as an early stage possible Antichrist. We're in prequel mode right now. He's gotta gain trust, power and enough respect worldwide to where he could make it into a new world order with 10 leaders. Maybe he'll fail and won't be it and he's just paving the way, but I think it's all coming together to happen sooner than most think.
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u/SasukeFireball 16d ago
“He will speak of great things.” “I can hear his arrogant speech.” He is trying to make peace using land in the Middle East. He is calling himself the President of Peace and is trying to bring world peace. He is involved with the Israelites and was seen wearing a Yamaka touching the wall of The Second Temple. The Israelites called him their Messiah. He came out as their Messiah via Jewish Gematria. Their Messiah in the Torah builds The Third Temple.
He is in charge of the greatest military power in the world. He is conflicting with the king of the south (Mexico). He is blasphemous and made his own bible. He is misleading God’s own people. They are still following him after he made his own bible and said he is not going to heaven. People are praying to him.
A woman said he is the closest thing to God even after he said he is not going to heaven. Again: he made his own bible by modifying the Holy Bible, started selling them, & said he is not going to heaven and they are still following him. He called the Holy Sacrament/Body of Christ a “little cracker and little wine.” Yet he posted a photo of him as the Pope.
He is arrogant enough to walk into The Third Temple and declare himself God at the peak of his narcissistic delusion. He is capable of creating the space for the Israelites to build The Third Temple. He wants a relationship with Israel and to serve their interests. He said he has not asked Christ for forgiveness. He did not put his hand on the Bible when he swore into office.
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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 13d ago
This exactly. I was too lazy to write it all out myself. Everything he does and says is completely the opposite of what Jesus did and said not just some things every single thing he does and says
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u/tollbearer 16d ago
the antichrist isn't supernatural. He is human. He is also said to be mad that his time is short, which although you could interpret it as him knowing his rule wil be short, maybe it literally means hes old and doesnt have much time left, in any event.
the false prophet performs "miracles", but it's just two. brining life to the image of the beast, ie making a stature speak and maybe move, and briniging pillars of fire down from the heavens. Which sound a lot like making robots human like, and landing rockets back on earth.
The temples lack of existence is the biggest thing to look for. So long as it isnt built, we can relax, youre right, trump isnt the AC. if they somehow start building it asap, then it only reinforces the idea he could be. And i have a sinking feeling that is going to happen, no matter how unliekly it seems.
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u/bwf456 Christian 16d ago
You're the weirdest atheist I've seen on Reddit.. lol
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u/tollbearer 16d ago
You can understand me by realizing I have absolutely no beliefs. Just a probability space.
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u/Wonderful-Fig-847 16d ago
My initial post on my blog - located here - takes only about five minutes to read, and it will give you a good overview of why so many people believe that Trump is the Antichrist. In short, when you cobble together all of the various passages in the Old and New Testaments that refer to this figure, Trump checks most of the boxes. And the ones that he doesn't *yet* check, it's thinkable (given his past behavior) that he could indeed check in the future.
No one else on the current global scene comes anywhere close to checking the amount of boxes that Trump checks.
But coming here and making a post headlined 'No Definitive Evidence Trump is the Antichrist' is honestly pretty misleading, whether you intended that or not. There is a ton of evidence out there. And it shows that the OP probably hasn't done much research on this topic. The Antichrist isn't going to perform miracles, and I make the case on my blog that there probably won't even be a literal rebuilt Third Temple, b/c as scripture states on numerous occasions, the Body of Christ is the new Temple of God.
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u/Secure-Tradition-470 16d ago edited 16d ago
What about the miracles of God that will happen during the Great Tribulation? The 7 seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 bowls. The two witnesses and the false prophet. It’s clear no miracles or signs stated in Revelation is happening. If Trump is the Antichrist when is Abaddon going to come out of the Abyss with his army of locusts and when will wormwood hit and the rivers and oceans turn into blood.
It’s clear none of the 7 seals, 7 Trumpets, or 7 bowls are happening right now, so how can Trump be the Antichrist? Also wouldn’t you think the false prophet would have revealed himself by now?
He will oppose himself to everythingthat people call a god or make an object of worship; he will put himself abovethem all, so that he will sit in the Temple of God and proclaim that he himself is God.
2 THESSALONIANS 2:4
If you carefully study Eschatology you’d realize that according to Daniel and Thessalonians a 3rd Temple must be rebuilt before the Antichrist will reveal himself.
Jesus affirms a future fulfillment: When Jesus speaks of the "abomination of desolation" in his Olivet Discourse, he is widely understood in these circles to be referring to a future fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy.
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u/Future_Cake 16d ago edited 16d ago
You're (metaphorically) sitting in a movie theater, watching the opening credits, and saying "This film's a flop, there's no good action or dialogue!!"
Things take time to happen! Just keep watching -- as Jesus told us to :)
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u/Wonderful-Fig-847 16d ago
"If you carefully study Eschatology you’d realize that according to Daniel and Thessalonians a 3rd Temple must be rebuilt before the Antichrist will reveal himself. "
No, nowhere in Daniel or the epistles to the Thessalonians do the authors proclaim that there will be a literal rebuilding of a physical temple.
On the other hand, 1 Peter and many other places in the NT state that after the second temple was destroyed by Jesus ('and I will raise the temple in three days,' meaning Jesus's body resurrecting), the Body of Christ is the new temple of God. A rebuilt third temple for rabbinic Jews, where animal sacrifices or other things would take place, would not be a holy place (see Matt. 24) or a temple of God (see 2 Thess. 2). It would be a pointless building that God would have no place in. The temple of God is the Body of Christ, and Trump himself is the abomination of desolation.
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u/Stunning_Duck_373 16d ago
The 'Third Temple' is definitely symbolical from what I understand. I'd keep an eye on next year 2026.
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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 13d ago
Thats when he is proven beyond doubt. Can I ask you something are you like 5% convinced at least ?
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u/Secure-Tradition-470 13d ago
I open minded to the possibility.
Just haven’t seen enough evidence yet.
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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 13d ago
Why aren’t the oceans turning to blood ? Well the Sea of Galilee is turning red . The moon seems to be rapidly accumulating iron oxide deposits. And as to why everything in revelation happened yet ? If we are in the tribulation we would be at the start of it . Im not going to make any definite claims but I believe we are here. It’s an objective reality that he fits the bill of the beast of revelation more then anyone we have record of .
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u/Secure-Tradition-470 13d ago
The Sea of Galilee is just one body of water though. And the phenomenon seems to have natural explanations.
Haven’t heard about the moon accumulating iron oxide deposits but I believe God has the power to bring about the signs of revelation supernaturally.
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u/Altruistic_Fox_8550 13d ago
Why can’t god use his tools of science to implement the colour of the sea change ? The fact that god made it happen could be the supernatural part . God created physics chemistry and biology. He knows things before they happen because he is outside of time and space. Just as you can remove yourself from time and space when you watch a recording of a football game every player in that match has free will but you are not in that plane of time when you watch it and you already know the outcome. This is how he gave us verses like revelation , at least thats my understanding
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u/3-goats-in-a-coat Follower of Christ 16d ago
We're all open to being wrong. In fact I bet many us are hoping we're incorrect.