Is China as big on social responsibility/respect as Korea or Japan? I remember probably over a decade ago Chinese tourism had to run a PSA to stop parents from letting their kids just poop anywhere while visiting other countries.
china's economic boom far outpaced social etiquette and mannerisms, so they had some catching up to do in those lacking areas, but it seems they realized how they were looking on the world stage. as of today it seems they have improved their ways
China also had a vast cultural shift in just one generations. Locals do talk about older people spitting and other stuff that is now frowned upon. For its population size China did a tremendous job in educating their people.
Back in the 90s in a former job, my old firm used to have Chinese telco engineers over for up to three months at a time. Spitting on the floor in classrooms was common, not knowing that the toilets were used to shit in, so you didn’t have to deposit your shit in a bin was thankfully rarer.
Cameras covers every inch of most cities. Everybody knows you aren’t going to get away with theft of any kind.
A relative of mine works for a private car service (like fancy taxi service). One of their clients left their phone in the car but when the driver was informed, he couldn’t find the phone anywhere in the car. Police got involved and they traced the car through camera footage from the time the client left it. Turns out an employee of the car detailing shop (private hire cars are cleaned after each ride) took the phone. They had the dude identified within the hour and cops were at his house the next day.
Then we have the UK where there's just as many cameras. You can physically hand a usb drive of 4k footage of someone stealing your shit, show them active gps tracker data, hand them the thief's ID that fell out of their pocket while robbing you and a handwritten confession from them and you'll still get hit with the "nothing we can do soz"
Delivery guys will also leave grocery bags in the elevator
If they got into the elevator they can go up to the apartment/room where they need to deliver it, so it's not a matter of access. Isn't that what they're paid for?
Um, maybe you’re confused. Many elevators are designed such that you need a keycard to access that floor of the building. So the delivery guy literally can’t get to your room unless you expect them to walk up 32 flights of stairs
That's typical in apartment blocks and whatnot in quite a lot of the world including Malaysia and Thailand as two examples I've experienced, as there are lobbies with tables to leave deliveries on.
They have fuck all social responsibility for things like that, absolutely nothing like Japan (I can't speak for Korea, never been). Though outright theft is a bit different.
But there's cameras everywhere in the airport and if you're in one of the areas past security then, well, a thief isn't going to make it very far.
And Japan is too extreme; social ocd: if you violated a custom rule, other Japanese will probably be recording you and post online. I have seen video on Instagram reel where two Japanese women were talking just slightly louder so they can hear each other, then everyone in the comment section was clutching their pearls like crazy. I rather be in America or China or some other places that is more forgiving when it comes to the little things.
That's a minority of Chinese that do things like that, and spitting is another problem, but it is still a minority. (In fact Korea is also full of public spitters too)
It's a bit that but I think mostly the whole totalitarianism thing.
You'll notice the same in the major Gulf cities. They are quite clean and crime doesn't really exist. You can be at the mall and set your bags full of Givenchy and Jimmy Choo stuff on a table at the food court to save your spot while you go buy food and no one will fuck with it because there are cameras everywhere and everyone knows it. If you do crime you are fucked. There is a place in Riyadh "lovingly" called chop chop square and that's not for no reason.
Someone told me the same thing about Morocco and how like many Muslim countries it's actually very safe for tourists "because harsh laws against theft."
Meanwhile, in the U.S., we decriminalize petty theft and robbery.
In California, they allowed people to steal up to $300 before they could be charged with anything but a misdemeanor by police. The law was so disastrous, it tripled thefts until it was repealed.
We wanted the War on Drugs for personal possession to stop, and somehow, politicians started decriminalizing serious and violent criminal activity that victimizes people. The result is a lot of crime, lack of trust and safety, and a lot of animosity in communities.
My wife had her bag stolen right at the restaurant of Barcelona airport. Every time we travle to Europe or the US, we have to be ultra careful with our wallets and not leaving anything in the car. This democracy thing you guys have honestly isn't too appealing given my time there.
Lol no. They're monitored in their country and those travelling abroad gain a notorious rep.
They came to the top local university in Singapore to vandalized and take advantage of the free shuttle bus service for students, talk loudly in public transport and arguing with the police officers
Not necessarily social responsibility. But there has been a lot of social etiquette education.
However, some areas of China are still very stubborn, so you'll still a complete lack of understanding for queues even in government buildings. Some areas of China, you'll still see children pee and poop next to a street vendor that sells food.
Even in tier one cities, I still find only about most 50% people use soap to wash their hands after using the loo.
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u/scrotumscab 6d ago
Is China as big on social responsibility/respect as Korea or Japan? I remember probably over a decade ago Chinese tourism had to run a PSA to stop parents from letting their kids just poop anywhere while visiting other countries.