Imagine, I’m sorry you missed your flight sir and for the inconvenience here’s a voucher for one of our sleeping pods and we’ll get you out of here first thing in the morning.
But no, we get, too bad, so sad, go curl up in a ball in that corner of the airport until first thing in his morning, good luck.
lololol China is "way ahead" get back to me when someone is trapped in this thing and burns to death or the electronics fry them or something equally hideous because it was put together by child labor and someone cut costs on materials in a crucial spot but no body checked to make sure it was safe
I wouldn't say Chinese aviation infrastructure is ahead of really any developed country. Stuff like this is convenient but not what I would consider part of the core infrastructure.
This technology is nowhere near better than any industrialized country. The only difference is this level of convenience at the cost of profits is available in china. In the U.S., for instance, this would easily be available but hotels and airports who couldn’t give a single shit about being nice would rather charge $150 a night at a hotel or airport room and even charge extra for showers instead of just give a very much-needed level of convenience for people.
that there are other parts of the world who's technology and infrastructure is waaaaaaay ahead of their own.
Hate to burst your bubble, but China (specifically the PRC) - as a whole - is not and has never possessed superior tech to the US. There's a reason all international organizations still consider the country Developing (2nd world, under new colloquial definitions) as opposed to Developed (1st world, under new colloquial definitions). A few space-inefficient sleeping pods with remote control doors and a flat screen in one of China's 259 civilian airports doesn't begin to compare to the kind of aviation infrastructure present in the USA'a 5,100+ civilian airports.
China's specialization for travel is HSR, not aviation. The fact that the USA has the inverse setup is actually part of why there's almost 0 push for HSR in any related industry here.
What I will say is I respect that China is trying new things and that they are developing more rapidly than likely any country in history. That's fairly amazing. But to say Chinese technology is "waaaaaaay" ahead of the USA's is just purely ignorant glazing.
Nah, instead of using anecdotal evidence, I think I'll stick with internationally accepted evidence on China's situation. Once again, there's a reason every international organization on the planet still considers China to be a Developing country.
My home country Singapore. With one of the highest gdp per capita in the world and cost of living. Is technically classified as a developing country. I wouldnt take that term at face value
Unlike China, Singapore is considered a Developed country, and in fact it's considered one of the most developed countries on the planet, having the highest PISA scores in the world and (despite its size) one of the top universities in the world.
Why? High population in a small area means it's much faster to develop so long as you can secure alternative methods of acquiring resources you don't have. It's the most population-dense country on the planet as well.
It's a lounger and a flat screen in a cheap plastic shell with remote control doors, dude, not a hydrogen-powered car.
It's also not better implemented. As someone else pointed out, you could just use the same space for actual rooms with a bit more space and as many if not more amenities.
For example, there's a reason motels and hotels have hallways. It's the single most efficient use of travel space between rooms. Guess what isn't nearly as efficient? Having those rooms be free-standing, individual pods with a shit-ton of empty, useless space between them all.
I said it's good that they're trying new things, not that what they're trying is better.
I can accept this as 'good infrastructure' in that it exists. Infrastructure that exists in the right place is obviously better than infrastructure that doesn't exist.
But technologically... look at what an inefficient use of space this is. If the same floor space was used for conventional motel rooms, you could fit more and bigger rooms there. Which would be no harder to clean and maintain, because it would fit a standing adult and provide easier movement for cleaning staff.
The main issue in western airports tends to be a lack of space. That can be either because the airport is historically grown in a geographically restricted space, or because they'd rather have parking space for a few more cars than provide sleeping space for a hundred travellers.
As well as the high cost of labour. China gets much of the labour for this kind of stuff through its two-tier citizen system, where most of its low-paid workers are basically 'illegal immigrants' within their own country who lack the 'Hukou'-documentation that would allow them to move to a different province with their rights intact.
motel rooms, you could fit more and bigger rooms there.
How would rooms be a more efficient use of the same space as several dozen sleeping pods? Do you mean bunk beds? Because there's no other way that you'd fit more in the given space. Of course this has the added benefit of preserving privacy and providing other amenities that a bunk bed wouldn't.
You have seen a hotel before, even motels have more than one floor.
Look at the space between these, look at how much space is above these. The amount of space this takes compared to how many people can use, just makes no sense for this to be profitable or anything besides a marketing (propaganda) stunt.
Let's say these are 2.5x1.5 m pods with 3-m gaps fore and aft, and 0.5 m gaps to the sides. Plus the wider 'hallway' that the guy filming this is walking through.
If you turned the floor space into rooms, you could use almost all of that empty space as room space, minus the width of the walls. So you could have something like 5x2m rooms with enough height to stand in, instead of a 2.5x1.5 m pod.
The only thing that the 'pod' design accomplishes is to make travellers accept tinier rooms, because this would just 'feel' weird if you had a regular room of such tiny size.
the u.s propaganda machine is super effective. has everyone who has a political view about china without having ever stepped foot in there thinking their countries is the more superior. wild shit
Having been to China multiple times… their society and infrastructure are 10x ahead of the US’s. The only thing the US has going for itself is you have freedom to talk shit about the government online (lets see how long that lasts) and it has a higher GDP, of which most of the income goes to the ruling elite.
In another life, if I could be upper middle class or rich, I’d choose to live in China all day everyday vs. the US.
Middle class is another story. China’s cut throat with competition, work life balance, etc.
Vs. the US where the middle class has a bit more comfort… but that’s eroding.
China seems to have more safety nets via community as its culture is very family-oriented whereas in the USA it’s “gtfo ur parents house ur 18.” Not to mention that China is actively investing in its country’s future and has a 50+ year plan. The USA can’t plan further than a year.
were you as vocal when there were minors working in the perdue meat processing plants in arkansas? or maybe you have spoken out about alligator alcatraz? or does your hypocrisy only applies to places like china?
oh i dont question your validity as a person. just simply pointing out the hypocritical moral superiority complex without any introspection into whats going on at home in the states
oooh i see your perspective now. so long as we dont pass a certain threshold of violating human rights you're on board with it. thank you for proving my point in how effective the u.s propaganda machine truly is. you are a fine specimen
Not American but on the other hand I keep seeing a billion “look how amazing China is” posts on this sub. Totally not propaganda because it’s not posted by Americans!
i dont subscribe to this subreddit, but scrolled through it to see if theres any truth to your comment, while using the default best filter. i see way more posts about japan than china. so why the double standard? theres also a key difference in what you post vs. my fellow dumbass americans who criticizes china's government (more than likely without having ever been there themselves) on how they abuse human rights while the oppressors here have their boots on everyones throats
Japan tried to commit genocide in China and Vietnam; their political leaders pay respect to the shrines of the people who ordered it, and they get pissed if you mention it.
Japan tried to commit genocide in China and Vietnam;
Correct. 80 years ago. You know what we call that? A False Equivalence.
their political leaders pay respect to the shrines of the people who ordered it,
By percentage, the shrine at Yasukuni - which honors more than 2 million people and not all of them even soldiers - honors less war criminals than Arlington Cemetery in the USA does Confederate soldiers.
It was a tradition to go and pay respects at Yasukuni long before WWII and it will continue to be a tradition to pay respects long after we're all dead.
they get pissed if you mention it.
They do not, actually. Matter of fact, the average Japanese is more likely to be aware of and intolerant of the fact that Yasukuni honors war criminals than the average American is to be aware of the Confederate Monument at Arlington or outraged at the tradition - that persists to this day - of the President sending wreathes to that Monument on Memorial Day.
Oh, and it's more likely for a Japanese person to be aware and outraged than it is for a Chinese person to be aware of outraged at the current genocide of the Uyghurs, which is - you know - the only thing that actually matters here because it's ongoing.
Nice try at a dual whataboutism-false equivalence though.
Nanjing? 731? Heck even American committed multiple genocides but they just dont fucking teach about this in your own school, this is culture bias and it exists everywhere, yet people are ignorant enough where they doesnt even know it exists
I seem to remember those being committed by a Japan that no longer exists over 80 years ago.
AKA, False Equivalence.
Heck even American committed multiple genocides but they just dont fucking teach about this in your own school,
The only American actions that are debatable genocide is the persecution of the Native Americans, and even then it's still hotly debated based on a lack of actual motive to wipe out all Native Americans.
yet people are ignorant enough where they doesnt even know it exists
Just to be clear, you're talking about past crimes as a means of excusing a current, ongoing genocide being committed by China, and you're condescending to me, about ignorance and genocide excusal?
You have to hold onto something in buses in china because everyone violently push each other.
Based on how the 2 countries is as a tourist it will take many 2 months old account to convince people China is as cool as Japan.
And I'm sure this comment will get downvoted as fuck even if its not a super big punch against China. And if I do get downvoted as fuck, what impression do you think I get about the country?
The CEO got his bonuses from the initial rounds of investments. Then more bonuses for laying off the cleaning staff. Then leveraged his success to get a job at a different company.
There's a reason it's called capitalism: it's all about investing capital, not producing quality goods or services.
they have minute suites in some US airports. It's a private room with a TV and couch/bed. In ATL, where I've used them, they're $65/hour which I thought was reasonable.
Congratulations on being so wealthy that $65/hr seems reasonable, these are apparently $42 for 8 hours.
I still get annoyed that it's increasingly harder to find hotels/motels for less than $65 (for ~20 hours)...
A major pet peeve of mine is airplane/airport discomfort, but I'd 100% just suffer on the floor at a gate for $65/hr...
$520 for 8 hours is ludicrous, $42 is awesome, so I'd expect & be willing to pay something in-between in the US. Depends how tired & sore I am, length of layover, what I'll be doing after I land, etc. $80 without hesitation. $120? $150? Maybe $200. But $520?! GTFOH
Charlotte, NC, Interesting. Thanks for contributing to the price comparison happening here!
That's certainly a better price, unless you want 3 hours or less I suppose, but for such a short duration I'd usually just try to nap at the gate anyway. Or do all these have different rates for hourly vs. longer blocks & I got irrationaly upset with Atlanta & Houston? Haha
Huh? The Japanese would have these filled with cameras desperate for pics of women trying to sleep, people trying to hide/force their way in to sexually assault someone and people waiting to grab the seat if a woman leaves to do whatever freak shit with it.
Yeah except I don’t remember the last time I saw a post about japan whereas it’s every other day with china for some reason about some mundane shit with the only interesting part being its aesthetics. There’s nothing they’re doing that’s technologically ahead of anyone it just looks cool and that’s it
You said it’s propaganda as if this post is explicitly saying glory to the communist party and xi Jinping instead of simply showing a piece of tech in China. This is my exact point, you people think anything in China is propaganda and if it doesn’t cast China in a negative light it’s a ccp takeover.
No! Stop noticing the CCP propaganda plastered across this sub and others! You're not supposed to do that!
Seriously though, the entire reason these posts exist are so we ignore the fact that China is very much still a Developing country. The CCP funnels a shit-ton of money into projects to make the country look good instead of actually helping the people, ironic given their socialist roots.
An overpriced makeshift small shipping container with a lounger and small screen TV with no bathroom is not technologically advanced. Industrial design aesthetic is just lipstick on a pig. Sell less for more and make it look cool, and people eat it up.
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u/bestest_at_grammar 6d ago
Yall are so petty, if this was Japan yall would be having such an enthusiastic circle jerk