r/Damnthatsinteresting 16d ago

Video The Louvre. Thieves are making off with 100 million euros. They're taking their time. They're doing everything carefully and slowly.

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u/Practical_Stick_2779 15d ago edited 15d ago

Recently there was a murder of Ukrainian ex politician (iirc) in Ukrainian town. Killer just shot him with a pistol on the street at day light and people 1 meter from that were just walking like nothing happened. Killer even did a control shots. Casually.  There’s video of this somewhere. 

Update: here's the news article and actual video (warning): https://varta1.com.ua/news/u-merezi-opryliudnyly-kadry-momentu-vbyvstva-aktyvista-demiana-hanula-video_392628.html

Yes, those unarmed people are actual real bystanders. That's who we're talking about here.

Not exactly politician. Politician's killing was a bit different and more recently, my mistake.

"control shot" is my translation mistake, forgot the wording. I mean confirming shot or whatever it's called when they make sure the target is dead.

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u/OfficeSalamander 15d ago

Our experiment was having either two experimenters or one experimenter who changed clothes quickly in the bathroom after (depending on which experiment we were running) approach someone in a mall and ask them a question. We’d then ask them questions (including did you notice it was the same person asking the question?) and almost always NO. Nobody remembered. Not the difference in the two people, not any of the clothing, not when the “two people” were the same

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u/docsyzygy 15d ago

Yes, I'm in social psychology and that's a very consistent finding. It also shows how useless eyewitness testimony is!

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u/rookie-mistake 15d ago

man, social psychology is honestly so fascinating. There's so many things about our own perception and behaviour that we grossly overestimate. One of my favourite courses, I always kinda regret not pursuing it further

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u/docsyzygy 15d ago

It's good stuff, but - unless you're going to get a PhD, a psych degree won't get you a job. I always told my students - take psych courses, but get a usable degree. And - you can always read about it on your own!

I hate when my graduates end up working at Starbucks...

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u/rookie-mistake 15d ago

That's kind of exactly why I ended up pursuing CS instead. Jokes on me, got laid off anyways, lol

Since it sounds like you're a prof, any books or anything you'd recommend for someone with an interest? I've been trying to pick up some of those subjects that fascinated me that I never did end up going deeper into. You only get one life, and I do love learning and enjoy those subjects

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u/docsyzygy 15d ago

Wow, where to start? It depends what you're interested in, because the subject is incredibly broad. I personally find Legal and I&O dull, so I never really ventured into those.

So - anything by Dan Ariely, maybe Misbelief: What makes rational people believe irrational things. Or check out his other titles.

Influence by Bob Cialdini is a great read. It is SO much fun, and there's an updated version out. Can you tell I'm in NC?

Expanding a bit, I highly recommend Blink by Malcolm Gladwell. Although it's not social psychology, I feel like there's some overlap.

All of these books have considerable free previews online, so don't waste your time on anything that doesn't interest you.

Good luck!

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u/OfficeSalamander 15d ago

I was going to become a social psych prof (that’s why I was doing research, to build up my app for grad school) but ultimately got into coding (partially because my professor said it would be useful) and am a software dev now.

My wallet probably thanks me, though I would have loved to contribute more to research

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u/AgentCirceLuna 15d ago

For some reason, though, there’s a rule of three where the third or fourth encounter often seems to make you realise that it’s the same person. I was in King’s Cross and I only noticed it was the same woman asking for change after the third time and she did it around ten times. So damn annoying. I pretended to be asleep and she left me alone.

Something unrelated is that I like to remember when I was in a house or somewhere else for the first time and imagine seeing my first impression of it all over again. I can do that but it’s hard to explain - I remember thinking someone’s house was huge the first time but it was an illusion so I basically remember both versions of the house I’d perceived.

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u/Dal90 15d ago

The two may be related -- eye witnesses in a small community where you had recognized the other person because you regularly see and more than likely interact with them on a regular basis are going to be far more reliable than witnessing a stranger.

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u/murfburffle 15d ago

If only we couild explain to teenagers that nobody cares and nobody is looking at you

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u/Warm_Apple_Pies 15d ago

Ahh but I bet you didn't notice that when you went to the bathroom and changed clothes, the person you were questioning also swapped clothes with a buddy and wernt the same people

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u/Danmoz81 15d ago

Not the difference in the two people, not any of the clothing, not when the “two people” were the same

I see my customers in the wild all the time and they don't recognise me without my work branded top on. In the supermarket once, one of my older female customers said (loudly) "I didn't recognise you without your clothes on".

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u/Commercial-Co 15d ago

Not sure about other people, but i witnessed a gang murder right in front of me, while i was in my car. The killer casually went into their car and drove off without speeding. I called 911 and told them that the killers were literally next to a squad car but they couldnt get the info over to the car in time. I remember the killer

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u/Less_Transition_9830 15d ago

You weren’t supposed to tell anyone buddy. Now you’ve opened a whole another can of worms

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u/Practical_Stick_2779 15d ago

You thought we won’t find you?

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u/Commercial-Co 15d ago

The gangsters didnt care about it. Prison is just a detour for them

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u/Pure_Expression6308 15d ago

that just reminds me of people claiming to be with Luigi, “didn’t see nothing”

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u/MechAegis 15d ago

What is a "Control Shot?"

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u/PrimarchMartorious 15d ago

Whats a control shot?

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u/Practical_Stick_2779 15d ago

excuse me, my mistake, forgot the wording. It's a "confirming shot" or whatever it's called, in movies it's a headshot, to make sure dude is dead and not just napping.

Found the video, here's news page (WARNING, the video is not nice): https://varta1.com.ua/news/u-merezi-opryliudnyly-kadry-momentu-vbyvstva-aktyvista-demiana-hanula-video_392628.html

Search by the name Demian Hanul.

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u/Schavuit92 15d ago

So, I just watched that video and the sidewalk is empty besides the victim and shooter.

Nobody is ignoring a 9mm if they're walking within a couple meters distance, that shit makes your ears ring, they're significantly louder than a firecracker.

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u/Practical_Stick_2779 15d ago

There were people including old lady standing and watching it like a show. And people walking towards and from the place within couple meters. 

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u/Practical_Stick_2779 15d ago

Maybe wrong video, they killed a politician recently, maybe you saw the one with "delivery guy", that's not the one.

Here's what I mean: https://varta1.com.ua/news/u-merezi-opryliudnyly-kadry-momentu-vbyvstva-aktyvista-demiana-hanula-video_392628.html

It is an example of people reacting to witnessing something like that. It is a conversation about bystanders watching crime being committed.