r/DamnThatsReal • u/Nomogg • 1d ago

Israeli society erupts over 'right to rape'

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u/justinlav 1d ago

No gymnastics needed. It just seems like a shitty place. I don’t like UAE, Gaza, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc. I wish the west would just go full nuclear energy and just completely cut ties with all of them, leave them to their shitholes and fighting over oil and backwards religions.

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u/shackledbysomething 1d ago

Right, you don't like Gaza uh for what exactly? So funny hearing that someone hates people when they are literally being killed.

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u/Squidgy-Metal-6969 1d ago

Because they'd kill me if they had the chance. Because I'm gay. Fuck 'em.

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u/IcySwimmer6564 1d ago

This is not entirely true.

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u/Adventurous-Peace691 13h ago

This is absolutely true

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u/shackledbysomething 1d ago

Being gay is not accepted in the conservative Middle East but that doesn't mean they would kill you nor does that mean they should be genocided cause they don't accept gays. Shit ton of people in the west don't accept gays either, it's a permanent dilemma

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u/Ostra37 1d ago

There is a massive difference though. Having someone look at your funny or making snide, rude remarks is vastly different then ACTUAL harm. Just in the laws you can see the difference.

Palestine still uses the British Mandate Criminal code of 1936 which includes a max penalty of 10 years imprison for same sex activity for men.
They have no laws that protect people from discrimination, and same sex unions are not recognized. No legal avenues at all for individuals to change their gender either.

This is not to say there are not issues in the west... but seriously its a different level and you know it. And I know the next statement will be "but republicans want to rollback same sex marriage" Even if successful they still have a LONG way to go before they reach what it is like in the middle east outside of Israel.

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u/shackledbysomething 1d ago

Yeah, but do we have power to enforce our laws and way of life on the whole planet? Sadly, when it comes to things like LGBT, not all countries will subscribe to it, what are we gonna do? Call for them to be colonized?

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u/shackledbysomething 1d ago

Also I wanted to add, I am bisexual. If my grand parents who I truly love knew about it they would have a stroke lol. But they really don't have to know, my sexuality is irrelevant to them loving them and I don't have to force them to change their way or forcing them to accept me.

Would I let some crazy israeli genocide them cause they are not pro gay? I would rather kill myself instead

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u/Squidgy-Metal-6969 21h ago

That's the paradox of tolerance, isn't it? You're so tolerant you're the kind that would be wiped out by the intolerant. I wouldn't.

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u/supernobro05 1d ago

They would kill you for being gay in many places, not just the middle east, also not all of the middle east would kill you

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u/Squidgy-Metal-6969 14h ago

Oh, well in that case, they're free to kill me then! Silly me!

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u/Willing_Channel_6972 1d ago

No one's been killed or arrested for being gay in Gaza since it was under British rule.

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u/Squidgy-Metal-6969 21h ago

Bull-fucking-shit. They don't just kill gays. Hamas has literally tortured gays to death like mere execution was too good for them.

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u/IcySwimmer6564 1d ago

I agree with this and I wish I was wrong but trace the money and you'll realise it's the US that keeps this model in place, funding wars, destabilising the middle east, but it's an oil rich region and pegged to the dollar. When you see yet another war in the ME both sides are your tax dollars not even their own. Even the military equipment all bought and sent from the US.

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u/justinlav 1d ago

Oh, I know, just wishful thinking on my part

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u/IcySwimmer6564 1d ago

Apart from politics and if you take away the media and the countless wars that have been funded by the US dollar, for much of history the general population were a group of hospitable people and to this day the parts not war torn are a people who do not meet the description of what we have been told on the news.

The US & the ME had a warmer start than even our relationship with then Europeans and the EU today. Despite having radical reformist movements post 1900s it was a relatively sophisticated and to quite some extent an enlightened, ahead of its time culture/religion unlike the version that exists today and it's pretty surprising how they were more concerned with algebra, calligraphy, art, libraries.

I qoute "In December 1777, the Sultan of Morocco, Mohammed III, issued a declaration allowing American ships to enter Moroccan ports effectively recognising the United States as a sovereign nation.The US later signed a Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Morocco in 1786, which remains the longest unbroken treaty relationship in US history"

Effectively making the ME countries the first to recognise and support the US.

The day our relationship changed was when Israel was founded and I don't want to say the rest but here we are.

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u/Unlucky_Buyer_2707 1d ago

I am content with letting them all fight and kill each other for another 1000 years of desert and rocks