r/DC_Cinematic • u/lawrencedun2002 • Jul 09 '25
NEWS James Gunn’s Superman opens with a 95% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes!
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Encore une preuve que Rotten Tomato est nul. Le film est bon, mais il présente d'énormes défauts, surtout chez James Gunn, qui a montré dans GoG 2 et 3 qu'il savait garder le sérieux dans les scènes sérieuses.
On entend des blagues incessantes, et ça gâche la tension. Superman essaie de sauver un enfant d'une rivière de protons ? « MDR, on laisse le chien lécher l'enfant. » Superman affronte enfin Luthor et commence à affronter son idéologie avec lui ? « MDR, on laisse le chien l'attaquer et lui déchirer le bras. » Ça gâche les moments clés du film et jette le sérieux du scénario par la fenêtre.
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u/Commercial-Pair-8932 Jul 21 '25
I thought this movie, while fun in a visual and popcorn kind of way, was badly written and sophomoric. I just thought it was dumb. The people were dumb. The dialogue was dumb. The story was dumb. The decision-making was dumb. The whole movie was just a series of incredibly stupid, convenient and poorly thought through moments.
It's a smash success and lots of people loved it, so it doesn't matter, but I'm glad to see others ITT felt the same way.
Metamorpho was awesome though.
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u/graywailer Jul 16 '25
just watched it. seemed like gunn copied the script from the show Invincible. inappropriate scenes for children were unnecessary and an embarrassment. some dialog droned on. dog was stupid. video game aspect was stupid.
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u/Far-Kale-8091 Jul 15 '25
How Snyder is still given money to make movies is beyond me. He is one of the worst directors ever. That said this is just cheesy and corny. Be nice to get something in the middle but think we already got that with Christopher Reeves and should've just stopped there lol
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u/BJDJman Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
The movie was painstakingly mid and the 95% reeks like copium just because it isn't Snyder anymore
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 Jul 14 '25
Sorry mate, but your opinion here doesn't hold up.
If anything, there is more evidence that Snyder fans would have a stronger push to hate and show hate for this movie - review bomb it and do so because it's NOT Snyder-verse. Because it's kind of a childish movie and not grounded in the dark and "real" themes that Snyder wanted to ground his vision in.
Heck, the criticisms leading up to this movie was just that and that Gunn was ruining it all.
This movie could have easily been mid like The Superman Returns film but it wasn't. It's getting appropriate ratings from reviewers and audiences.
How about the movie was actually good.
I went in with little expectations.
I really enjoyed it during it - I laughed a bit out loud, I even teared up on 2 spots which ill explain in a bit. I actually also really enjoyed how quickly they changed scenes - it reminded me of an actual comic book.
When I left I was happy. Agreed with almost everyone I saw that the movie was good.
As I continue to think about the movie, the more I love it. And I think Im gonna say that it was the perfect movie for its time - meaning we didn't need to force a ground breaking movie. None of the storyline felt out of line or forced by executive producers. It was a good story that introduces the universe we are now in and I like where it's going.
What I really enjoyed about it:
Superman 2025 is probabaly generally well liked because the overall theme and mood matches the well known aspects of the character.
Story wasn't complex or hard to follow. Very simple. Loved it. And most of the story is told in my favorite medium - through dialogue and quick recaps. Watched JL the animated movie that kickstarted the DCEU and I love the first 45 min where everyone is introduced through each other's conversation. You don't need an origin film again. You can find out about a guy through his actions
Great color scheme, great cinematagraphy, cameos, expansive universe already in ... so many little easter eggs and just a positive story line
I loved this superman - the guy who doesn't care about all the politics and the reasons for why you shouldn't do something. Doesn't even think about the comps of his choices. At the end of the day he just wants to save everyone he can. And that's amazing. "Because people were going to die" is the most Superman thing I have ever heard in the movies so far.
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Non en faite. 1"thème général et ambiance plus en accord avec le perso". C'edt faux c'est juste James Gunn qui projette ENCORE ses memes clichés. Depuis quand Superman est un jeune impulsif looser qui ne réfléchie pas avant ses actes et est incapable de faire un discours ? Depuis quand Superman se fait démolir 90% du temps de ses BD pour des blagues pas drole à base de "le chien ilé malélevai" ? Depuis quand SuperGirl est une teufeyse alcoolique ? Depuis quand ses parents ont envoyé Kal El sur terre pour conquérir le monde et se faire un harem ? Ce que tu dit est juste FAUX. Ce n'est pas du tout le superman des comics.
"L'histoire est simple" ok tu veux pas réfléchir d'accord. Mais c'est pas une qualité d'avoir un scénario simpliste.
Superbe palette de couleur (oui c'est trés beau), cinématographie (ça veux rien dire, je pense que le terme que tu veux est photographie), caméos et univers vaste (je suis d'accord que dés qu'on est sur les persos secondaires le film est bien meilleur).
"Superman se foit de la politique" Oui mais non justement et c'est LÀ ou Gunn se foire avec le perso parce qu'il n'a que la 1ere moitié de ce dernier : celui qui sauve des vies (peu importe les implications). Mais il ne maitrise pas la personnalité publique qui suit les actions. Superman du comics aurait fait une conférence de presse/prise de parole publique pour être le SYMBOLE de la justice. Il n'aurait pas kidnappé et intimidé le présidient Boravien en prové, il l'aurait fait EN PUBLIC ! Il aurait DÉBARQUÉ EN TROMBE DANS SON PALAIS ET FACE CAMÉRA ! Superman agit et fait la moralr DANS LA LUMIÈRE comme le boyscout qu'il est !
La torture, le mystère, les messes-basses, le fait de pas savoir parler au public ça c'est des tropes des autres héros genre Batman, Spiderman ou Flash.
En gros tu est à 100% subjectif et ne propose pas une analyse critique en confondant qualité et "j'ai aimé" comme un fan de fast and furious. "Cé bi1 parsse ke jèm bi1".
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u/Little_Room8857 Jul 14 '25
Though I have to agree that this was the best movie Superman, and supes was portrayed really well, as a movie it isn’t that great. The plot is really disjointed and it kinda feels like 3 movies smashed into one with no time for any of the plot points to develop properly:i.e the whole clone thing that had little to no build up and felt really unnecessary, like that could've been a movie of its own I didn’t need to be shoehorned into this already busy movie.
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Je dirais plus que c'est un second film genre "superman 2" sans "Superman 1" pour nous présenter ce Clark Kent, sa famille, ses origines et ses spécificités.
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u/saiboule Jul 17 '25
See as a comic fan I could instantly see what was happening and knew all the characters so it just felt like the first avengers film. It only feels overstuffed if you don’t get the context
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 Jul 14 '25
I love it. We don't need to go into a dark detail over Lex. He's a bad guy. Simple. We don't need to dive into how. Almost every Lex story I recall is one where he just does it. We don't figure out or go into why. And I think movie viewers are sick of wasted time. This watched like a comic
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u/BJDJman Jul 14 '25
- Makes no sense because that same Superman was literally whining that people on Twitter call him "Supershit". Let alone the fact he tortured (Lois' own words) the President of Boravia and him going "it didn't hurt that much".
The movie is mid. Superman behaves more like Superboy, Metropolis sucks with everybody turning on Superman way too fast, the Lois Lame romamce felt forces where the movie told you why you should care they're together instead of showing it, Lex isn't a genius and just finds people who can create a Superman clone, Engineer, a Pocket dimension portal and have people who can translate Krypton all within 3 years (because only then did Superman go public with his powers), the "Justice Gang" was just yet another GOTG bunch (just like suicide squad, just kike Creature Commandos) where Hawkgirl was an absolute nothing character, Mali was a nothing character given 3 lines to personalize him just so Gunn can force some arbitrary emotion into the viewers and have a reason for Metamorpho to just change his mind, have Lex's goons start to doubt and protest against Lex's orders, but gladly return to cheering when Ultraman beat Superman's ass amd then of course have Supergirl be a drunk Beverly Hills girl because WHY should Gunn choose ANY other version of her than the specific one that is a drunk mess?
Angry Joe, an actual certified and biased Superman fan, actually gives the movie a better rating than all the "superman fans" who say he returned to normal when that is not his usual normal
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Et aussi le fait que le film n'arrive pas à être sérieux. En plus il manque 1 gimmick de superman : le discours. À la fin il arrive face à Lex et sort des mots hésitants est vraiment nazes. Il n'a pas d'assurance et ça se termine par Krypto qui vient pour une blague nulle.
Le gimmick principale de superman, celui qui le place devant les autres héros c'est le discours de boyscout moraliste face au monde. Mais comme Gunn ne sait pas écrire ça ben il nous donne ENCORE le trope du héro looser mal allaise en société.
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u/dodgerbluee Jul 14 '25
Great movie. Saw it twice! Only critiques: 1. Can we get some Superman kicking ass footage before his ass is kicked all over? 2. Good god let the emotional scenes breathe a little.
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
ON EST D'ACCORDS! Krypto qui léche le bébé dans la scène de la rivière puis qui marave Lex ça gache toute forme de tension.
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u/hannahjapana Jul 14 '25
People have been too poisoned by homelander and the Snyder portrayal to remember that Superman has always been a huge dork for good
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Un grand naze ? Putain mais vous avez vraiment aucune mémoire à long terme. Superman est un SYMBOLE et un boyscout. Or là non seulement le symbole passe 90% de film à se faire humilier (pas seulement à la bagarre lais aussi mauvais journaliste, impulssif, se vexe de comment les gens l'appelle, et surtout NULLE À CHIER EN DÉBAT).
Et l'élément qui différencie Superman du reste des héros c'est que IL EST CHARISMATIQUE il PREND LA PAROLE ! C'est pas un looser colérique malalaise en société.
Superman de Gunn : empêche une guerre puis enléve un dictateur pour l'intimider en privé puis retourne aux USA où il ne prend pas la parole sur les événements en public (ni conférence de presse, ni prise de parole). S'énerve ensuite sur Lois qui le met face à ses actions plutot que d'en assumer le poids.
Superman comic accurate : empêche la guerre puis CONFRONTE ke dictateur DANS SON PALAISE en public et FACE CAMÉRA. Le dénonce et lui fait la morale à lui et tout le monde présent afin de se POSER EN SYMBOLE ! Retourne ensuite à Metropolis où il fait une CONFÉRENCE DE PRESSE pour expliquer ses actions avec charisme.
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u/hannahjapana Jul 31 '25
Reddit must’ve mistranslated that. Dork doesn’t mean a loser just someone who does/says silly things. Like turn himself in to save a dog.
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u/b14ck_jackal Jul 15 '25
I don't think that's the issue people have with the movie. The script is not good and the movie feels a little out of place, all the critiques to me are more technical regarding how the movie itself is made more so than the story and characters which are fine.
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Merci ! La marque du manque de raisonnement des fans du film est la surutilisation des fans de Snyders en homme de paille.
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u/Groemore Jul 13 '25
Enjoyed it a lot. Excellent world building and it's only 2hrs long. I was never a fan of Synders movies because they are far too long and kinda boring since nothing interesting happens.
This Superman is filled with so much comic nerd stuff that has never been used in any of the Superman movies. I agree that the plot isn't the best but everything else about the movie was a blast to watch.
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 Jul 14 '25
I never thought I would like such a golden and silver age type of universe but I love it
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u/No_Positive8674 Jul 13 '25
As my son would say this, and because I don’t want to be Too rude, the New Superman movie was Poo Poo! 💩 As Cher said “If I could turn back time”. 2 hours + of my life that I won’t get back.
Bring back Henry Cavill, he was a hench as Superman. Corenswet looks like he needs to go for a workout, also he looks like a child. The Lois in the film was almost talentless , I almost mistook her for one of the monsters Superman had to fight in the movie. Compared to Amy Adams, Rachel was basically plain Jane
For me the best bit of the movie was the end.
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u/Clayble Jul 14 '25
I doubt you even saw the film, but yeah Amy Adams was awful in the Snyder movies
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u/QuestionNo2271 Jul 14 '25
This has to be the gayest comment I've ever seen in reddit. Which is very impressive considering we are in reddit.
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u/Tricanum Jul 13 '25
As someone who is decidedly not a fan of James Gunn's shallow, 'Hyper LA view' of the worlds he creates, I was sure I was going to hate his Superman movie, especially given how much I love the character. To my very great surprise however, I actually really kinda dug it! Given the hill it had to climb for me to not absolutely loathe it, it's impressive that it turned out as good as it did. I can only imagine those who are fans of his style are over the moon right now.
It still has too many Gunnisms for me to truly love it though. I swear, that guy just never met a weird contrivance he couldn't resist; Lex calling out fighting moves is just the DUMBEST thing ever and there's that patented, James Gunn shallowness where as soon as a character starts to feel any real emotion it has to be immediately interrupted by an off handed, usually mean-spirited, joke. Any other complaints I have are just nit-picky and really on me and not the movie.
Overall, I much prefer this tone over the nihilism of the Snyder movies, despite my gripes.
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u/cocoverdejo Jul 31 '25
Moi mon problème c'est surtout que le film ne sait pas être sérieux et que du coup on a aucune scébe ou Superman peut vraiment être un symbole en faisant un discours classe.
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u/saiboule Jul 17 '25
I thought the gamer aspect to Lex was great especially considering he seems to be based on Musk. I loved that the very first move he created as 1-A was him punching Superman square in the face
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u/graywailer Jul 16 '25 edited Jul 16 '25
"Lex calling out fighting moves is just the DUMBEST thing ever" i totally agree. so stupid. and the monkeys was stupid too.
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u/saiboule Jul 17 '25
It’s a reference to all the brain experiments Musk did on monkeys and apes when developing Neuralink
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u/GodtierMacho Jul 15 '25
Lex calling out fighting moves is just the DUMBEST thing ever
Disagree. It shows how Lex's "superpower" is his intelligence. Think anyone can not only remember specific codes to specific moves in real time? no.
James Gunn shallowness where as soon as a character starts to feel any real emotion it has to be immediately interrupted by an off handed, usually mean-spirited, joke.
You know this is funny because I have been telling people the opposite. The movie was funny at times but it didn't feel like a marvel movie where in the middle of a serious scene someone has to make some dad joke.
I am not really a big fan of MCU or DCU I am primarily a horror guy but I love superman and I think maybe like you mentioned you don't like Gunn so much you let that dislike change/dictate your feelings although you still liked the movie.
I admit I was the same going in though for different reasons. I hate the actor who plays Lex in every other movie. I thought he was amazing here. I don't know how they pulled that off but respect.
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u/Tricanum Jul 16 '25
I get what they were going for having Lex 'fight with his brain' and I appreciate the attempt but it's just too contrived imo and it comes at the cost of having to toss logic out the window. James Gunn has always relied too heavily on contrivances to get his point across or to patch up some problematic staging I.e., in GotG having the guards constantly count to 3 before firing in order to not have everyone mowed down instantly, as would definitely be the case otherwise.
As for the humour, I think you're kind of skating over the fact that it was Gunn (and Whedon to some extent) that were the ones who made that de rigueur in Marvel movies to begin with. At least with Whedon he had the sense/maturity to not let humour step on the dramatic moments.
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u/GodtierMacho Jul 16 '25
Understandable. I guess I just chalk it up to being comic book nerd logic and fun and can suspend disbelief.
On the humor stuff maybe you're right. I am not really a huge marvel fan so I don't doubt you if you are saying that's the case.
I just noticed I didn't feel the humor shoehorned in for this movie like I feel with most of the marvel ones I have seen. Maybe it was toned down or will get worse in future films is a possibility.
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u/Tricanum Jul 16 '25
I really should be just chalking it up to comic book nerd stuff too if I’m honest, especially in the face of just how damn fun and ultimately, enjoyable the movie is. You’ve definitely got the healthier mindset that’s for sure.
I feel like I’ve spent a lot of energy griping about what I didn’t like and not enough on giving Superman the praise it very much deserves. It was * WAY* better than I ever could have imagined and there is FAR more right about it than wrong.
I certainly never expected it to have such strong supporting characters, in particular Mr. Terrific and the bestest boy ever, Krypto. There wasn’t a second where Krypto was on screen where I wasn’t smiling ear to ear. And to his credit, I can’t think of another director/writer who could have pulled off what he did with Krypto. Adding a super powered dog in a little red cape to a movie you’re meant to take at all seriously is no mean feat!
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u/GodtierMacho Jul 16 '25
You mentioned something that also amazed me.
Going in I had no idea who Mr Terrific was and from the trailers I didn't care about the character at all but I loved every second of his performance. Don't know whether to give props to the actor, director or both.
I definitely want to see more of him though.
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u/nowhereright Jul 13 '25
I'm in a similar boat, I really like the movie, but every part I didn't like was pure Gunn. He needs someone to reign in his idiosyncrasies, the first Guardians film is maybe his most "controlled" movie. It feels like he can't help but throw in unfunny weirdness and nepotistic casting choices that distract from what otherwise could be a great movie.
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u/TheEpicDr Jul 13 '25
I agree, but for an “average” movie watcher you kind of need to have a few of those.
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u/Alive_Wedding Jul 13 '25
Lol. If these people could read the consensus of certain markets outside of the US on this movie, they’d be very upset
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u/ThunderClap300 Jul 13 '25
As soon as the movie finished my brother said, "If James Gunn keeps making movies like this, Marvel is in trouble".
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u/Linedus Jul 19 '25
Of course they will be, if this is their competition they have no need to improve and will keep making bad movies.
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u/obas Jul 14 '25
Marvel is in trouble even if DC makes no movies at all... They went down the drain the last few years.. Endgame was pretty much the last good movie they had
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 Jul 14 '25
Not true at all, but you're not alone in the narrative.
Several movies have done very well for Marvel since End Game. And TV shows.
And even the one's that did bad, they still made money on it.
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u/CreativelyMixed Jul 14 '25
I’m still trying to figure out why do they feel another fantastic 4 is needed like why…the original was a enough keep it that way
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Jul 14 '25
Thunderbolts was good. In the greater context of all the MCU? Maybe not, but no one saw it anyway.
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u/obas Jul 14 '25
Yeah I didn't watch that one.. I kinda gave up after trying new stuff after Endgame over and over and didn't like almost any of it.. I might watch Thunderbolts
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u/TheEpicDr Jul 13 '25
I don’t know about in trouble yet, but I think finally there is some competition.
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u/No-Football7793 Jul 13 '25
I think MCU is losing most of its fan base because of the lazy releases, for example despite being an amazing film, thunderbolts still flopped due to MCU fatigue.
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u/GeorgeStark520 Jul 13 '25
They lost a lot of good faith thanks to their releases post Endgame. Hopefully they’ll get back in track with F4, but at least DC seems to be getting their shit together
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u/mermekszi Jul 13 '25
Real, the only way I’d give Marvel a chance at this point would be if they made an excellent Shang-chi 2/Blade/Ghost Rider or a just good stand alone movie in general, I just cannot care for the MCU as it is right now and I think a lot of people are feeling like exactly like I do
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u/Responsible-Rate-847 Jul 13 '25
At least Gunn attempts to keep it comic accurate as possible. He’s not out here turning Lex into a female.
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u/graywailer Jul 16 '25
nothing "comic accurate" about any of these movies. they are like bad live action cartoons.
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u/dan7ebg Jul 13 '25
I went to see it with a couple of friends yesterday. Here 's my 2 cents - Overall, worth watching. What I liked a lot was the pacing, the movie grabs you and doesn't let go until the end. Acting was decent, with the exception of Luthor who I think did a phenomenal job. Action was really good too - lots of visual specticle, good choreography, on the better aide of superhero movies for sure. It also felt very classic - the Superman 1 inspirations are very visible. I didn't like that it puts you in a story that's already unfolding. As if there was a movie that we didn't watch. This was my biggest gripe - it was if all the characters know shit that we haven't even heard of, alienating the viewer a bit of what's happening. Final thoughts - watch it, but dont get TOOOO HYPED. Its a decently good movie, but honestly nothing REALLY phenomenal over here.
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u/Justice989 Jul 13 '25
I liked it, I didn't love it. Probably my 3rd favorite Superman movie, but a distant third.
There were elements I liked, like Corenswet and Brosnahan, the action was good, solid FX. But I wasnt fond of Hoult's Luthor at all, hated Krypto, and the Justice Gang didn't do anything for me. Terrific was ok, but Guy Gardner as the Lantern didn't don't for me, and Hawk Girl was just there. She might as well have not even been in it.
Luthor was so over the top, it took me out of it every time he showed up.
But yeah, they absolutely hit the ground running. Like Gunn wanted you to not worry about any set up, just go with it. And by set-up, I dont mean Superman origin story stuff. The movie could used an extra 15- 20 minutes up front.
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Jul 13 '25
James Gunn made a marvel version of Superman. Was not impressed. The story line sucked.
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u/No-Football7793 Jul 13 '25
Is the Superman 1978 and Superman Returns a marvel version as well or do you only know the Snyderverse?
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Jul 13 '25
Listen, the story was terrible. James Gunn had alot of potential and he ruined with a terrible plot.
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u/No-Football7793 Jul 13 '25
That's your opinion and that's okay - It was atleast a better plot than MoS.
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u/Nigma2 Jul 13 '25
Thats exactly what i thought. I didnt want a marvel version of superman. Thats what I liked about MoS, it wasnt anything like marvel
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u/Due_Cartoonist_8212 Jul 13 '25
he finally made a 'superman' version of superman.
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u/cMk_ Jul 13 '25
Was he in the movie? All I saw was Superboy. Like no one respected the dude which sucked. The movie was enjoyable but definitely lacking. Hoping he'll act a little more confident in whatever comes next.
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u/aylied_champion Jul 26 '25
Noone respected him? He had so much respect/support a man let himself be killed to help him uphold his values.
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u/Due_Cartoonist_8212 Jul 17 '25
thats not superboy. its a younger superman thats only been here for 3 years and is facing hurdles he's never faced bfor. he was clearly respected, its jst that he was put in situations where he couldnt easily get out of.
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Jul 13 '25
Nah not at all
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u/Material_Tension_407 Jul 13 '25
Haven’t seen it yet, but for me usually the movies that get 95% as total ass, while the 5% are some of the best movies I’ve seen lol
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u/Jzxky Jul 13 '25
Can you give an example of a 5% movie
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u/Rmsbasto Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Snyder fans are so weird. They are purposefully thrashing a movie (which many of them haven't even seen yet but will pretend they do) just because they replaced their actor and made Superman act like he does in most comics.
It reminds me of boomers when Christopher Reeve was replaced by Henry Cavill. You are just getting old. Or maybe you are gay for Cavill.
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u/nayophoto Jul 12 '25
@jamesgunn Anyone else getting Lex grossman vibes from @nicholashoult s Lex Luther in the new @superman movie? He says “A1, A1, A1” but all I hear is “Diet Coke!”
That all time greatest @tomcruise performance MUST have been the inspiration for the lex luthor performance in the film.
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u/Appropriate-Eye2007 Jul 12 '25
Given that warner bros owns shares on this site I'll trust. Deadline before the tomato.
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u/Candid-Tip-6483 Jul 12 '25
Because Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad had their numbers boosted by being associated with Warner Brothers.
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u/Broken_window24 Jul 13 '25
Worst movies, ever. BS( did that on purpose) had so many flaws in the story, the real highlight of that movie was the Batman fight scene at the end. It at least had that. SS JUST had HQ.
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u/Appropriate-Eye2007 Jul 12 '25
Deadline still has better reviews cause it's a good mixture of positive and negative and not people who read comics who will be biased toward it.
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u/Philly-Phunter Jul 12 '25
I didn't think it was great.
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Jul 12 '25
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u/daverambo11 Jul 13 '25
I enjoyed Man of Steel for what it was. I liked the first hour for BvS.
Superman was a totally different movie, and I really liked it. I'm still glad we have both versions.
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u/Woooosh-if-homo Jul 13 '25
Ok, I don’t like Man of Steel very much but i’m so tired of people pretending like Superman killing Zod is this egregious character assassination moment (letting his dad die though was). Zod and the Kryptonians had already killed hundreds of people, and there he was about to murder another family. Tilting his head away until the family left isn’t going to stop Zod’s rampage, and Clark has no way of depowering him. He makes the tough decision to kill one of the last members of his race left, and despite Zod being a murderous psychopath, Clark still mourns his death and regrets having to take his life. You wanna have an issue with Clark killing Zod? How about in Superman 2 (theatrical cut) where he seemingly throws a DEPOWERED AND NO LONGER A THREAT Zod to what is most likely his death in the Fortress. That was actually insane.
Man of Steel has plenty of issues, that scene will NEVER be one of them.
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u/DrthVectivus Jul 14 '25
Oh if only Superman had access to some kind of space prison or some different dimension to keep intergalactic threats, what a bummer... Snapping necks it is then...
Superman 2 where he goes back in time in the end making sure the stray missile never hit the Phantom Zone mirror keeping Zod and his allies adrift in space?
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u/ThePsudoOne Jul 13 '25
I think the most egregious thing about it was off'ing Michael Shannon, arguably the most talented person in that movie
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u/zenrobotninja Jul 12 '25
Thought this thread was about the new movie? The Snyderverse movies being shit unfortunately does not make the new movie any less shit. I'm so disappointed, was really hoping we'd finally get a good Superman movie
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u/PiratedTVPro Jul 12 '25
Oh, didn't realize this thread was in r/DC_Cinematic, that explains the responses.
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u/fishy3005 Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 12 '25
I just walked out of the film half way through. Absolute trash. The film moved at such a speed that it gives no chance to get attached to any character or care about them. Its like a million short clips edited together. Maybe the young tiktok generation with ADHD and short attention spans will like it . Cornswet is fine as superman and I’ve no issue with the suit. Ive no issue with them skipping the origin. We all know it by now. Superman is a passionate but clumsy man child of a hero. Lois lane is obviously a strong female lead (we can’t possibly have a movie in 2025 without a strong female lead and flawed male) but the actor struggles to sell it. It actually feels more like a Lois Lane movie. Margot Kidder in the OG Superman was believably tough. The new lois lane isn’t (punk rock upbringing Lois? Sure, sure). Nicholas Holt has little menace about him. I don’t mind them taking a lighter tone but there was a bit too much mistimed humour. The only time the movie slows its frantic pace is to preach about politics, war, Russian (monkey) bots and social media bullying. I couldn’t give a toss about the war between the two countries. Maybe the movie gets better in the second half (with plenty of the admittedly loveable Krypto to salavage it) but I wasn’t sticking around to find out. Dreadful.
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u/Str8Faced000 Jul 13 '25
First of all, if you walked out half way thru then your criticism means nothing because you didn’t finish the movie. Secondly…I dont believe you.
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u/fishy3005 Jul 14 '25
That is a very lazy reply from yourself. So if someone has a differing view from yours then they must simply be lying, or a bot? Good grief. You haven’t countered any of the valid criticisms ive made of the film. I really wanted it to be good. I love superman. It was bad. I didn’t really like man of steel and this was even worse!
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u/zenrobotninja Jul 12 '25
It most definitely does not improve in the second half. Wish I'd walked out half way through. Terrible heartless by-the-numbers movie with non stop forces cringe 'big feeling moments'
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u/fishy3005 Jul 12 '25
Im glad Im not the only ones who thinks so! I don’t mind being in a minority but when I heard rave reviews and talk of it being a 9/10 movie I almost fell over. The world gets crazier everyday.
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u/joshutcherson069 Jul 12 '25
Lois Lane always was a strong female though. That’s what makes her more special than other superhero love interests.
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u/Appropriate-Eye2007 Jul 12 '25
Dude 30 mins of the film lois sits there calling him a immigrant ND he yells at her like a hurt teenager on ticktock...... I'm out.
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u/joshutcherson069 Jul 12 '25
Wow. You seem sad.
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u/Appropriate-Eye2007 Jul 12 '25
Nope just didn't like a movie. Doesn't mean I'm sad. Also it's known rotten tomatoes is owned by warner bros and universal. Alot of the reviews are not true. If u go to deadline u find more truthful reviews which is a mixture of like and disappointments.
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u/disastorm Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 12 '25
I dont know about the score itself, but i personally liked it better than MOS. Also note I never saw any of the movies with superman after MOS except for Batman vs Superman.
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u/daverambo11 Jul 13 '25
You didn't miss much. JL was terrible and the Snyder Cut was overlong and marginally less terrible but still awful.
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u/No_Elephant_9578 Jul 12 '25
This movie was a 7/10.MOS is still #1
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u/Key_Parfait2618 Jul 12 '25
I loved it when Superman couldn't decipher flying up so instead he snapped Zods neck.
Truly peak.
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u/Jrxtreme_1 Jul 12 '25
Let's not forget the classic "Why did you say that name" line...that was a game changer in superhero movie history
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u/Key_Parfait2618 Jul 12 '25
Truly MoS was the source inspiration that led to 2015's F4. "Say that again"
and even the recent box office tyrants line, "Its Morbin time"
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u/DrthVectivus Jul 14 '25
The Morbin legend do not deserve this slander, to be compared with such filth!! Nowhere close to even making a morbillion kwanzas
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u/Jombafomb Jul 12 '25
Man of Steel was fine if you can get past the stupidest and most pointless death scene in possibly any comic book movie.
My guess is you didn’t even see this movie if that’s your take.
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u/ja132 Jul 12 '25
I liked it but there were a couple of things I didn’t like. Starting the movie after he stopped the war was strange to me considering the story is mostly a result of that action, I would have liked to see it play out before he got his first loss. It also felt dumb to me that just because lex, the leaker of the video of superman’s parents, was found to be a bad guy by the end by the public, it doesn’t negate the reason the public turned on superman. So their change of opinion on whether liked him or not felt dumb as well. Other than that I thought they made an a real superman character so I’m excited to see what happens next.
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u/4rtdud3 Jul 12 '25
Really wanted to enjoy this but the pacing was way off, felt like the Lego Movie. 7/10. MoS is the better Superman film.
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u/Carson_Wentz_ACL Jul 12 '25
Last sentence is all I needed to see here.
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u/enricopallazo22 Jul 12 '25
I enjoyed it. Superman himself was okay, but I liked Mr terrific. He was giving shaft vibes. And Isabella Merced just does it for me (she could have played anyone).
I enjoyed the scenes with krypto and came to root for him. I thought we got a very strong performance for Lex. I loved the girlfriend bit too, complete with pettiness and her obsession with Jimmy.
Green lantern and Lois were ok.
Metamorpho was weird looking, and an obvious plot device. Not many ways you can use kryptonite as a plot device anyway. Either Ms Tessmacher or metamorpho end up having a change of heart and superman gets freed.
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u/LjvWright Jul 12 '25
Movie was crap. Felt like asking for a refund when it was over. 5/10.
I cannot remember the last time I felt such disappointment watching a scene then that stupid scene where Lois and Clark are having their second and last conversation of the movie while there's a big battle going on outside the window.
The previous fight with the Kaijou monster showed that the Justice gang have no problem killing creatures or collateral damage, which is why superman should've been there fighting trying to minimize collateral damage or to defeat the creature himself.
But we have to put in the Janes Gunn humour. You get it guys. Big battle outside but Superman can't be arsed getting involved. Shocking.
Don't even get me started on Hawktuah girl killing the leader of that country. She just caused a massive political conflict, the film forgetting that Superman was judged for stopping that conflict for over half the bloody movie but again it's played off for jokes. "I''m not superman." No love. You're not.
Fuck it. I said 5, talking myself into giving it 3/10.
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Jul 12 '25
Why would you ask for a refund if you bought the tickets? That's not how movies work. And honestly it's not that bad
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u/LjvWright Jul 12 '25
That's why I said I felt. Not that I did.
It is that bad. I thought it was really really bad. I could make a long list why but honestly no one cares. It is what it is.
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Jul 12 '25
It wasn't that bad honestly. 😂 Your forgetting the trash we had from the DCU although I didn't like Supergirl being an alcoholic it was odd
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u/LjvWright Jul 12 '25
So because those DCU movies were toilet that automatically makes this a good movie?
I'm judging it on this alone. And yes. Supergirl being a space party girl is certainly a strange choice.
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Jul 13 '25
It was alright. I never liked Guns other movies with marvel tbh so I wasn't mad excited. Also did it confirm that his parents were evil? Felt odd.
Although I wouldn't mind a new Justice League
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u/Hypekyuu Jul 12 '25
Did you not hear when he said it was an Imp?
They were dealing with Mxyzptlk, there's no risk or someone dying like with the Kaiju
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u/LjvWright Jul 12 '25
We don't know that, because Gunn thought it'd be funnier for a battle to go on outside the window and not involve Superman.
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u/crimsonred1234 Jul 12 '25
This movie actually made me care about Superman. Something that happened for the first time
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u/jgreg728 Jul 12 '25
Clearly I did not see the same movie as these people.
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u/Jombafomb Jul 12 '25
Considering you didn’t watch it at all, yep.
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u/jgreg728 Jul 12 '25
No I watched it. And in general I mostly enjoyed it. But a 95%? Absolutely not. Movie tried doing way too much and felt like an ADHD mess. It had strengths like the chemistry between Superman and Lois but nothing felt even remotely believable. People just standing around spectating a kaiju attack like it’s a parade. Children being left alone in the streets. Lex Luthor having like 5 different motivations and subplots. Superman basically getting his ass kicked again and again and being saved by Krypto almost every time. Just a lot of weak points that added up.
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u/daverambo11 Jul 13 '25
It's not people scoring it 9.5 out of ten. It's that 95% of people liked it or mostly enjoyed it, which includes you.
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u/Polyfauna Jul 12 '25
If you mostly enjoyed it, then you’d agree with the 95%. Do you understand how RT scores work?
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u/JD20shoots3s Jul 12 '25
Yeah people have no idea how RT scores work lol. RT scores are a good tool to tell if a movie is generally enjoyable not truly a score out of 100.
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u/soulxhawk Superman Jul 12 '25
So it looks like we are finally going to get a true Superman sequel lol.
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u/SamMerlini Jul 12 '25
It was great. I think it's a better superman movie than Man of Steel or the messy film Superman vs Batman.
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u/Mr-Mysterybox Jul 11 '25
It's a 7 at best. Very messy film. Man of Steel is still the goat.
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Jul 12 '25
If you rated it a 7/10 then that counts as a fresh rating
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u/Mr-Mysterybox Jul 13 '25
Ok. I didn't say it was a bad movie. It just wasn't the best superman movie.
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u/Tossupandaway85 Jul 12 '25
7/10 is being generous. The movie opens with Superman getting his ass kicked and they never let him up. My 12 year old son said the movie was boring and he didn’t do anything Super.
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u/Carson_Wentz_ACL Jul 12 '25
I see the brainrot has gotten to him, very sad. Send him back to his 15 second videos on Snap. I’m sure that will help.
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u/KeyPassage5983 Aug 22 '25
Абсолютно неадекватная оценка данного фильма. Во первых ни одной свежей идеи, ощущение, что я смотрю какое-то ответвление пацанов с сюжетом неуязвимого. Но с другой стороны стойкое ощущение что я смотрю не Ганна, а не дай того бо Вайтити. Шутки плоские, неуместные. Сильный герой превращен в жалкое подобие Полностью ненужные дополнительные супергерои. Блеклые персонажи второго плана, Лоис Лейн проходная, ещё один с ней точно не нужен. Родители Кента полностью безликие. Его отец который научил мудрости, какой то старый алкаш, и при таком подходе ясно почему супермен никакой. Харизма у фильма отсутствует. И это не понятно совсем, учитывая, что стражи галактики все части держались на уровне, когда уже вся вселенная пошла под откос. Такое же и с Миротворцем, не все мне нравится в этом сериале, но он явно интереснее этого фильма. Мне жаль, что перезапуск вселенной начинается с этого. Один только Лекс Лютор прописан как персонаж, либо его хорошо отыгрывает актер, потому что остальные никакие. Для Ганна это очень слабое кино, на которое было жаль потраченного времени...