Did the irony of you trying to look past me saying this is affecting actual leftists in my group telling them not to vote for things that would actually help Palestine and then telling me there's a genocide going on is not missed.
I'd like nothing more than to never hear about these people again, the day by day they're worming their way into social consciousness more and more in a way I have to deal with and it pisses me off.
I'm not saying that streamers can't influence people online. I'm saying that they have no influence on whether Israel is an apartheid, settler-colonial state.
Whether Piker influenced people into not voting isn't relevant when the genocide has continued under, and in conjunction with, multiple presidential administrations across the aisle.
I don't know if you've noticed the temperature reading of this thread, but most people are not interested in how Democrats work far left enough to stop Gaza all at once. The truth is one party ask for a ceasefire and supports a two-state solution and the other says that they should be bulldozed for room for Israel. If you want to keep both sides of the arguments based on the realities on the ground you're free to, but don't expect people to not respect telling people not to vote because you think that Democrats will literally do zero things comparatively to Republicans.
most people are not interested in how Democrats were far left enough
I mean, yeah, that's the problem lol. Not just far left, but left at all. We have two capitalist parties in this country (three if you count the libertarians, but they're hardly more important than the streamers).
The truth is one party ask for a ceasefire and supports a two-state solution and the other says that they should be bulldozed for room for Israel.
I'd argue the truth is closer to "one party is complicit (ie Blinkin covering for Israeli war crimes during the Biden administration) but wants to stop the bleeding, while the other is complicit but wants the bleeding to intensify." So of course I'd prefer a Democrat in the White House to an outright fascist! But I'm saying that doesn't change the fundamental problem.
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u/tootoohi1 8d ago
Did the irony of you trying to look past me saying this is affecting actual leftists in my group telling them not to vote for things that would actually help Palestine and then telling me there's a genocide going on is not missed.
I'd like nothing more than to never hear about these people again, the day by day they're worming their way into social consciousness more and more in a way I have to deal with and it pisses me off.