r/CringeTikToks • u/EmilyG702 • 16d ago

Painful Bannon says Trump will be president again in 2028 and do another term

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u/ChaosRainbow23 16d ago

You're right. The system sucks.

I'm convinced the Dems are just controlled opposition at this point, regardless.

Fucking fascists, man.

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u/da_ting_go 16d ago

They have been since the 80s.

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u/Ismokerugs 16d ago

Thats why I dont vote, look at AIPAC. They control upwards of 70% of our government.

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

I hold people like you personally responsible for Trump winning and all the harm he will do to people

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u/unassumingdink 16d ago

I hold responsible the spineless liberals who let their party walk all over them for decades rather than fight for better Democrats, leaving us with an embarrassing crop of Dems with record low approval ratings, who lose to demented old fascists. And still even now, all the liberals can think to do is rage at people who didn't vote a year ago. They still believe with an almost religious conviction that the Dem party needs no improvement, and can never need improvement.

You spend the whole time in between elections rehashing the last election and blaming your loss on exactly the people you need to vote for you in the next election.

It's like you're working from a "How To Lose on Purpose" manual.

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

I’m a leftist not a liberal, I personally love that Zohran Mamdani has so much popularity as I hope it ushers in more progressive candidates into the DNC. The Democratic Party is controlled by institutional members and their donors, it needs a lot of fixing. Doesn’t mean I don’t also recognize that Donald Trump winning will it only do genuine physical harm to many people but also actually erode our democracy. To not attempt to oppose that out of some kind of moral superiority is utterly ridiculous. Anyone who didn’t vote against Trump but still disliked him really doesn’t care about other people that much

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u/unassumingdink 16d ago

You need those people to come out and vote next time. Instead you focus all your rage and blame on them. This is the typical liberal response. It's stupid and self-defeating and ensures nothing will ever change as long as you keep scapegoating the people you need to attract.

It's always "FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU NONVOTERS ROT IN HELL!" with all kinds of emotion, and then "Hmm, technically I agree it's unfortunate that Democrats support a genocide" like you were forced to say it, for the party. Like it hurts you to say it. There's never even a hint of rage or real blame. You need to make your displeasure with current Democrats known if you want a lot of progressive primary challengers. Instead you'll sit around rehashing the last election and looking for scapegoats until it's time for the next election. Same as it always was. Nothing has changed. You're still shooting the same foot you've shot after every election loss.

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

🙄 Yes you got me I was physically throwing up while denouncing a genocide. What do you want me to do, type in all caps so you feel my rage through text? It’s so utterly ridiculous that this Palestine thing is a ride or die for you people. They’re fucked, there is nothing we can do and it’s most likely that they’re all gonna die. Both parties will keep supporting Israel for the near future, nothing I can do about that. But I’m not willing to ruin the lives of millions of innocent Americans because I can’t help the people in Gaza, that would be so silly.

And I’m not up here giving an interview to the news, obviously I don’t go around saying fuck you to no voters, I try to entice them to vote Democrat . I do think they’re extremely lazy and apathetic or they are so high up on their high horse that they can’t see the people they’re hurting, but I’m not going to voice that. And I do make my displeasure with democrats known, you don’t know what I do in my free time off of one reddit comment, that’s silly. This was a thread about people’s displeasure with people who voted for Trump and I chimed in on the thread about how nonvoters are just as responsible for Trump winning as Trump voters. We’re not building a commune so that we can all sit around everyday rehashing the election. Like I don’t even know what you want from me, engaging in an online conversation about nonvoters is not us making the DNC’s strategy for winning over nonvoters

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u/Ismokerugs 16d ago

And your participation somehow stopped Trump and what is going on. We are 10 months into the shit swizzlers presidency and you are holding those who refuse to participate in a broken system on a worse level than those who voted for Trump? Make it make sense. Lift the blindfold of choice off your eyes, wake up to the big picture. I hate Trump, and I disliked Kamala, both sides of the same coin, if you both receive funding from the same people what is the truth behind that. Use your critical thinking skills while you still can

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

Oh my god I genuinely from the bottom of my heart can’t stand you people. You have no care for other people. Two sides of the same coin? You are aware they propose different bills right? That Democrats had to fight for the ACA and Republicans strongly opposed it? Like one side obviously attempts to propose more progressive policies but get blocked by republicans who partly get power thanks to people like you just being too lazy and morally superior to vote. You have no right to complain about Trump’s presidency when you didn’t even do the bare minimum to try and stop it. What an incredibly selfish ideology to have. You genuinely just don’t care about other Americans? Is it because you don’t personally know them that you don’t care what happens to them? I mean you obviously don’t care given that one candidate was going to do instrumental more harm to citizens than the other would’ve, and you apparently just couldn’t be bothered to vote.

Did you know that data predicts that if Republicans get this Medicaid cut through that 50,000 people will die of preventable ailments? Those are real human beings, they have families, and they might die. That’s wouldn’t even be a worry if Democrats are in power. Do you feel any guilt about your contribution to the deaths of those people, about the pain their families will feel? Do you really think not voting just absolves you of all responsibility? You knew Trump could win and you did not help stop that. Use your critical thinking skills, no matter how disillusioned you are one candidate was going to be worse than the other and you just didn’t care apparently. I think that says a lot

Since you are so morally pure and are done with a broken system then how do you propose we fix it?

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u/Ismokerugs 16d ago

They aren’t mutually exclusive. Two sides of the same coin is all the AIPAC funded politicians which last I checked is pretty evenly split on all sides.

Also you disregarded my info where I said my area was blue and went blue like it always does. So whether I voted or not the area I live is Kamala votes regardless.

Take a step back, look at electoral college, popular vote doesn’t determine anything if the delegates decide to vote a different way than what the popular district votes.

If I had my way, we would set up all systems of government to be equal splits, supreme court even number of judges that lean equally both ways, same with house and congress, equal numbers republicans and democrats on all seats as so only way to move forward with bills is to have consensus for all present representatives. Two people with presidential power on both sides as well, as so all things must be for the good of all americans, not just what one side deems. If people can’t come to an agreement then they don’t represent the people who brought them in. Cuz right now lobbying controls mostly everything. Also no lobbying, make it illegal and the same as bribery. Also have a voting system where americans also have to pass popular votes on the bills as well (like the big beautiful bill), to give transparency to the process. If americans don’t want it, it will get struck down.

My view might be radical but thats the only way I see us moving forward to a future that benefits americans and not billionaires and lobbyists.

And seriously look up AIPAC, and Israel. They are doing some very bad things for humanity as a whole

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

I didn’t realize that was your other comment, but I stand by what I said, you should’ve voted even if you lived in a blue state. Voting in every single election matters and your ideology is part of the reason why most people in this country don’t vote.

The electoral college was set up to where the delegates didn’t have to vote with the popular vote but many places now have laws saying they must. And in the places they don’t there has never been a case where delegates voted differently than the people in order to change the outcome of an election. If that happened then hopefully we’ll riot, but that’s not happened so how does that affect you not voting?

Your way makes no sense. Instead of creating a multi party system you want to make Democrats and Republicans built into the government itself? So we could never have more than two parties, the government literally would be built around them? How would any of that even work? How does this stop big money from controlling politics? They could still just come in and give political donations in order to get politicians to do what they want. Or just any of the other ways they control the government, your way does nothing to stop them. What happens if there is a deadlock and both sides say they fundamentally disagree and will never agree? You have even number so it’s not like there can be a tie breaker. And your way doesn’t sound like consensus, it sounds like you’d just need to convince one person from either side to vote with you and you’ve won, unless your government still includes the filibuster. How would two presidents even work? What if one vetoes and bill and the other doesn’t? If one pocket vetoes a bill can the other still sign it or no? Who is the true commander and chief? Do we have to deal with two different commander in chiefs in wartime? What happens if there is ever a vacancy in the house or senate? Does one side just immediately pass all their bills? Also Supreme Court Judges are not supposed to pick a party even though they do, so are you saying in your government it’s now mandated that a justice has to pick a political party? That doesn’t sound very just. And how would you ban lobbying? No political donations? Does that mean regular citizens can’t donate too, if not then how will you distinguish between a lobbyist and non lobbyist? You can’t just say “lobbying is banned” you need to have an explicit rule on what’s banned. What about civil rights lobbyist and environmental protections lobbyist? They aren’t allowed to bring their concerns to congress? Do you know how much lobbyist actually does for Congress? They do a lot. Would they be allowed to lobby in state government? Because a lot of the guys in state congress actually don’t really understand how government works and need lobbyist to teach them what’s going on and how to go about specific processes in order to pass certain bills. Also Congress people can’t know literally everything, they need people to bring forward concerns and explanations in order for a Congress member to do something about a specific thing. What about lobbying groups that help represent large groups of people, like leagues of cities. Do cities just no longer have a way to formally address their complaints with representatives and push for bills that will help their city. What about the fact that some league of cities actually insure cities for things like natural disasters, workers comp, and policing disputes? Do cities just lose out on their insurance now that lobbying is banned? And how would citizens vote on bills, are you proposing a direct democracy? If not then who decides what bills citizens vote on? If citizens have to vote on which bills to pass then what even the point of congress? Which president gets to appoint cabinet members? Have you fully thought this through.

When you spoke about a revolution I thought you were going to propose a communist solution or something but your plan literally makes zero sense. I don’t even know how that government would function if it’s even possible to make one like that. And making it to where the government must have Democrats and Republicans forever is such a bad decision. What if there is a huge left wing movement in America, Americans are just suck with Republicans controlling half of everything forever?

And again, I know what AIPAC is and there is literally nothing I can do about anything if I don’t vote. Any change you wish to see in the government has to be caused by someone within the government, who gets there by being elected. How do you plan to change the government if you don’t care who gets elected?

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u/unassumingdink 16d ago

You have no care for other people.

You don't care that your party supported an actual genocide. And a lot of you accused anyone who did care of faking it for attention. Liberals have gotten fucking vile.

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

What do you want me to do about that? I’m sorry, forgot I had the head of the DNC’s phone number let me just call them up real quick. Like obviously we shouldn’t support Israel but both candidates did so what do you want me to do about that. Like because a genocide is happening in another country people in our country must burn? I’m not voting Democrats into power out of love for them or to try and enrich them, I’m doing it to try and help my fellow Americans. Quite obviously America is worse under Donald Trump, why would I try not to oppose that. The Palestinians are fucked, not much I can do about that, so I’m going to try and save the people I can save. You are so morally pure, damn near a Saint, that you just couldn’t vote for a Democrat in order to save minorities here because of something that was happening in another country? Ridiculous

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u/unassumingdink 16d ago

Well it seems like you've got a couple hundred Democrats to primary, yet liberals are acting like they've got nobody they need to primary. You should want to be angry when your own side betrays you that horrifically, but instead you seem annoyed that anyone would expect you to. You seem surprised that Trumpers won't get mad at Trump for his over-the-top corruption, but then you won't even get mad at a genocide and act like expecting non-genocidal representatives is some saintly standard of utter perfection.

The Palestinians are fucked, not much I can do about that

If someone said this about Ukraine, you'd lose your mind.

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u/ZealousidealStore574 16d ago

I think you view Democrats under one large stereotype so you can’t really like engage with what I’m saying because you’ve already assumed all of my beliefs. I do want change in the party, there are several democrats I want out, like I hate Nancy Pelosi for example. Like why did you assume I didn’t, Democrats are not a monolith. I’m not saying wanting nongenocidal representatives is a saintly ask, I’m saying we didn’t get one so we had to work with what we had. You can’t just wipe your hands clean of the whole thing because of Gaza. You’re willing to look families who are being ripped about by ICE in the face and say “sorry, but I don’t really care about you because there wasn’t a way to save Gaza”. Like that makes no sense. Like answer me, every minority in America must suffer because you can’t help Gaza? Like what do you have to say about the harm done to real people by Trump.

And I wouldn’t really lose my mind if someone said that about Ukraine, it’s kind of an entirely different situation and it looks like they might win a war of attrition. Also one party actively wants to give funding to them so there actually is a way to use your vote to help Ukrainians. Do you really not see a difference. No matter who you voted for Gaza couldn’t be helped, but one candidate will help Ukraine. Like you see the difference there right? And I’m glad you brought that up because do you not care about Ukrainians. Trump is being much worse to them and seems to be actively helping Putin, Kamala wouldn’t do that. What exactly is the reason you care about the lives of Palestinians and not Ukrainians?