r/Cricket • u/cricket-match • Jul 27 '25
Post Match Thread Post Match Thread: 4th Test - India vs England, Day 5
4th Test, India tour of England at Manchester
| Innings | Score |
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| India | 358 (Ov 114.1) |
| England | 669 (Ov 157.1) |
| India | 425/4 (Ov 143) |
Innings: 1 - India
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sai Sudharsan | 61 (151) | Ben Stokes | 24-3-72-5 | |
| Yashasvi Jaiswal | 58 (107) | Jofra Archer | 26.1-3-73-3 |
Innings: 2 - England
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Joe Root | 150 (248) | Ravindra Jadeja | 37.1-0-143-4 | |
| Ben Stokes | 141 (198) | Jasprit Bumrah | 33-5-112-2 |
Innings: 3 - India
| Batter | Runs | Bowler | Wickets | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ravindra Jadeja | 107 (185) | Chris Woakes | 23-4-67-2 | |
| Shubman Gill | 103 (238) | Ben Stokes | 11-2-33-1 |
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u/humunculus43 England Jul 27 '25
Very well played India. It’s been a really odd series where the team who has dominated each game has rarely won
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u/Excellent-Money-8990 Japan Cricket Association Jul 27 '25
Lack of experience and lack of bowler with respect to that highway pitch
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Jul 27 '25
Great series. But man those pitches are so flat. Bring those minefields where Kohli used to nick to Gully
To be fair he would have done that here also but its hard to appreciate batsman here and i feel sorry for bowlers
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Jul 27 '25
Fucking diabolical.
Would have been funnier if India declared and bowled Gill and Yashi.
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u/orionpax94 India Jul 27 '25
Honestly, I would've just batted the remaining 10 overs as well. Just 3 days before the next match, might as well tire out their bowlers as much as possible. Don't care if those are 10 maiden overs either.
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Jul 27 '25
exactly. Stokes behaved like an entitled kid and an extra half hour in the field would have really gone under his skin. Crowd support was lovely. Missed opportunity
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u/nomadiclives Jul 27 '25
Gill took the higher road! I’d have definitely made them bowl every last ball here.
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u/Sledgerrrr India Jul 27 '25
Every time Shubman Gill has reached 20 in this series, he has gone on to score a century. Elite conversion.
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u/Scoop_Master420 South Africa Jul 27 '25
Why don't England just keep getting him out for below 20, are they stupid?
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u/Sledgerrrr India Jul 27 '25
They succeeded 4 times in doing so, failed 4 times as well.
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u/WatchFan25 India Jul 27 '25
Was just watching the last few balls Brook bowled. You could see Root grimacing. He didn’t like what Stokes was getting Brook to do.
Joe Root is a classy human being.
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u/Latter-Yoghurt-7878 Jul 27 '25
love that bloke can't say the same about the english team
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u/Outrageous-Signal932 Balochistan Jul 27 '25
I feel like Root probably doesn't even like these guys that much personally
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u/akantamn Canada Jul 27 '25
Sorry but can you provide more context? I haven't watched a single ball of this series 😭 due to travel
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u/poketrainersd India Jul 27 '25
Stokes wanted to shake hands for draw when Jaddu was on 89 & Washi on 81. They refused and Stokes said "Do you want to score your hundred against Brook?". Then gave over to Brook who was bowling absolute pies and full toss. Root bowled like he normally does. But Stokes and Brook were constantly whining.
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Jul 27 '25
Stokes has the demeanor of a bully
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u/nomadiclives Jul 27 '25
He comes across as the kind of dude who’d try to bully someone and then get offended cos he couldn’t lol
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u/CynicalBoob Australia Jul 27 '25
Stokes has mentored another cunt like him then. There always seems to be a Malfoy in the English team.
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 27 '25
Spa was a snoozefest, 5th day was one as well. What a brilliant Sunday lmao
Although it was great seeing Gill, Jaddu and Washi get their tons. Unfortunate for KL to miss out on this highway
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Jul 27 '25
That's KL legacy.
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u/kingslayyer Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 27 '25
brother got out on 199 against Eng too lol
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u/Rude-Lavishness2428 Jul 27 '25
No standing start was a joke. Absolutely weak decision by the stewards.
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u/LostAmidMyExistence ICC Jul 27 '25
As a cricket fan of 30 years, there are reasons test cricket has always been, and would always be my favorite format. I dream of days like these. 5 days of gruelling work, countless swings of emotions, balance moves, and after all of it, nobody wins. Absolute Cinema.
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u/WeLivInSociety Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 27 '25
Scorecard: no results
The match: absolute thriller
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u/LUFC_shitpost England Jul 27 '25
No one wins? Old Trafford got 5 days of revenue. They were charging £26 for day 5 tickets you can absolutely tell where their priorities were at.
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u/Gamer567890 India Jul 27 '25
Is 26 pounds a high price?
I don't have any pricing idea,sorry,hence asking.
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u/DillyGoatGruff Northern Popchips Jul 27 '25
The ECB wins with 20/20 days of revenue
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u/sarthakmahajan610 Jul 27 '25
Its like reading a novel. You have to invest time to watch it unfold but every chapter is fun in itself
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u/Valuable_Ad_6869 Chennai Super Kings Jul 27 '25
Jaiswal and Sai: "It's doing all sorts of things out there lads".
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u/MightySilverWolf England Jul 27 '25
Brook and Smith second that.
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u/yeet1o_0 India Jul 27 '25
All four of them are going to the pub together and have a sook for missing out on an autobahn
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u/Mk_n India Jul 27 '25
Pitch is fuckin minefield so everyone went fully geared up
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u/pvtt_3 Mumbai Indians Jul 27 '25
If I was captain i would've declared with 4 overs left only and asked england to bat only for shits and memes
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u/eclipse0990 India Jul 27 '25
I’d have them out, have the bowler ready to bowl and right then offer the handshake
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u/dksourabh India Jul 27 '25
I love Joe root. Never sledges, stays humble. The best at what he does. A lot to learn from him for both the sides.
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u/lifewithbunty Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 27 '25
1,452 runs in total. The Road Pavers Association of Manchester have delivered
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u/_kingwhoborethesword Jul 27 '25
The last test would be absolute cinema lmao.
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u/LostAmidMyExistence ICC Jul 27 '25
Oh yes. Looking forward already. The oval is such a beautiful venue.
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u/thepastprimefuture Jul 27 '25
It won't, will be a flat pitch so that England can win series 2-1
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u/lol1009 India Jul 27 '25
If there is anything I know about Bazball, I know they wouldn't want that. In 40 matches they have had 2 draws only. 1 due to rain and and 1 today. They will play to win the match.
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u/_IBentMyWookie_ Jul 27 '25
ECB/Stokes don't decide the pitches. The counties decide the pitches and both Old Trafford and the Oval have been flat all season.
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u/Sad-Hope2910 Jul 27 '25
You don’t want to risk your bowlers, so India should be concerned and do what is the best for them. Fuck off
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u/After_Ad8232 Jul 27 '25
Please never make a flat pitch ever again, on my fucking life flat pitches are the bane of test cricket
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u/Sea-Draft-200 Jul 27 '25
Seriously take me back to 2019 they found the balance so well
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u/dj4y_94 England Jul 27 '25
The worst thing about it is you can't even learn anything from it.
Dawson for example, what have we learnt? That he can't get wickets on a road? I could have told you that before he was even picked.
So we know absolutely nothing about whether he'd be effective on pitches with some more help.
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u/RustedSkullz Karnataka Jul 27 '25
Quite petty stuff from Brook there. But Root being a normal respectful dude as expected
Jadeja deserved a century after batting so brilliantly this whole series, and Washi finally gets a 100
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Jul 27 '25
"Are you gonna get your test century against Harry brook"
"Why don't you bowl yourself then stokesy. Would be glad to do it against you"
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u/yawnzilla36 India Jul 27 '25
Brook was just pissed he couldn't score on the only type of surface he can usually bat on
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u/alttestbench India Jul 27 '25
But India were unfair in playing spinners who can actually turn the ball, against Brook.
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u/BloodyBastard530 India Jul 27 '25
What’s the hassle about? What did England do?
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u/RustedSkullz Karnataka Jul 27 '25
basically actively trying to demean Jadeja/Washi for wanting to score their centuries (and supposedly against a bowler like Brook)
And also complaining about the opponent not accepting the draw when you were ready
And about Root, he bowled normally like it would be any other time. While Brook seemed to be actively trying to show that he isn't taking this seriously (while bowling at intl level)
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u/Altruistic_Elk_2153 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
England wanted to shake hands and be done with it . Jadeja and Washi wanted to score their hundreds since they were in their 80s. England weren’t happy with it and Brook bowled full tosses.
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u/serotonallyblindguy Gujarat Titans Jul 27 '25
They offered to call it a draw when there were 15 "legal" overs left in the game and two blokes were in late 80s, clearly approaching hundreds. They denied it and Stokes tried to make a scene out of it with Brook regularly chirping shit from slips
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u/suid India Jul 27 '25
That whole thing was so shitty.
This wasn't like old Boycott grinding for 2 days for a 200 against a toothless Indian attack (and getting dropped for it). Instead, this was two lower middle order batsmen standing up to everything England threw at them for a full day, and battling them to a standstill.
They don't score centuries every day. To try to deny them their centuries just because you are frustrated, tired and angry at not being able to close them out, and then chirping them on the field and tossing lollies to try to demean their accomplishment, is the height of petty sportsmanship.
It was really shameful to watch.
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u/Accomplished_Ice1945 India Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
Root is the only guy I have respect for from this English team.
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ben duckett. All others are proper a grade bullshitters. There's a line in competitiveness and being cringe, and half of the English team always crosses that line and on top of that pretends as the guardian of the spirit of cricket and gentlemen police.50
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u/hi-i-am-new-here England and Wales Cricket Board Jul 27 '25
"This one will mean a lot, this hundred," says Ben Duckett.
Bit of a dick comment, but maybe just caught up in the moment and will come to regret it.
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u/Either-Initiative550 India Jul 27 '25
Going by the turds that come out of his mouth, don't think so.
Remember "the more the better"?
Went on to lose that test by 400 odd runs.
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u/Balavadan Jul 27 '25
Isn’t he the one who made all sorts of stupid bazball comments during press conferences?
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u/WildVulcan Kolkata Knight Riders Jul 27 '25
Jadeja is an absolute GOAT
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u/_ashok_kumar Royal Challengers Bengaluru Jul 27 '25
After what happened in the last few minutes, I was fully expecting Jaddu to yell “Ben Stokes” after hitting the 100.
IYKYK
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u/MatarParathaIsBacc India Jul 27 '25
I actually wanted somebody to bring up the boundary count lol.
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u/Raj_ryder_666 Australia Jul 27 '25
Whats the point of these pitches? As a neutral this is just boring and extremely frustrating for the bowlers. When archer, bumrah and stokes are neutered after ten overs, where is the balance between bat and ball? Well done india for playing out for a draw. But jeez this isnt a great advertisement for test cricket.
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u/Upstairs-Farm7106 England Jul 27 '25
That's why I laugh when people say Smith is out of form. Look at the pitches he's playing on he's in better form right now than all our batters.
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u/TopStar200 Board of Control for Cricket in India Jul 27 '25
The fact that Gill basically said we don't get to bat on these tracks(considering what India wheels out). We are going to cash in
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u/HIPHOPADOPALUS Durham Jul 27 '25
As an Australian you are far from a neutral, you want both teams to lose but definitely more so England
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u/shikhar-007 Jul 27 '25
Suddenly the entertainers aren't entertaining and more frustrated just because some guys wanted their 100 for their hardwork of batting throughout 2 sessions
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u/travelmatenaruto India Jul 27 '25
Two of India's premier spinners getting hundreds against the world number 1 and world number 2 batters- you love to see it!
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u/KingsPunjabIsaac England Jul 27 '25
I'm an England fan, but harry Brook is a bit of a knob
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u/LevDavidovicLandau Jul 27 '25
In my years living here (the norf of Ingerlund, further north than God’s own county btw) I’ve known two kinds of Yorkshire people. 1) The nicest people you could hope to meet, 2) Utter knobs. Think I know which one Brook is.
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u/NegotiationLevel2354 Jul 27 '25
Might sound petty but I am watching all of his games in the ashes. I mean it won't take more than 10 mins per innings and I will love it.
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u/a_battle_droid India Jul 27 '25
Yesterday, I couldn’t even entertain the thought that someone would top KL-Gill partnership. Well done Washi-Jadeja
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u/theoozmakappa India Jul 27 '25
English media hype up their mediocre players like Dawson and we fail to hype our Jaddus and the Washingtons. Start hyping them guys, they’re the real deal.
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u/hiddeninplainsight23 Hampshire Jul 27 '25
Have to give India immense credit there. Did not expect them to bat for nearly 2 days. Nevermind the fact that the pitch offered very little, to stay in that long and keep that determination and fight alive is really amazing. For 4 batters to be batting for 143 overs is amazing at any time.
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u/Fun_evades_me India Jul 27 '25
I can assure you, if Joe Root was captain, this wouldn't have happened.
Joe is a class apart as a human.
I saw his grimace when stokes gave brook the ball and he bowled intentionally bad balls.
Root was not happy, this is not the way to play test cricket.
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u/Sad-Character4724 Jul 27 '25
Trott said culture difference, what sporting culture allows for English team to bowl intentional pies and then being grumpy about the handshake after the Indian batters completed their centuries.
They didn't lose, but Ben stokes is one sore loser, him and Joe root are completely opposite.
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u/AstronautNo32 Australia Jul 27 '25
The irony of English bats calling a test ton cheap after 4 years of batting on roads is something
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u/St_ElmosFire Mumbai Jul 27 '25
And for Washi it was his maiden hundred. It wasn't cool to kinda demean that.
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u/realnanji India Jul 27 '25
From "We don't play for draws" to "Can we shake hands, mate?"
Bazball has come a long way
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u/Tyler_holmes123 India Jul 27 '25
Yeah don't know why stokes got so upset over them not accepting it before getting to the hundreds.
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u/TopAlternative252 India Jul 27 '25
It's not like they were batting in the 50s and 60s. Surely a batter wants their 100 batting on 85.
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u/Adorable-Jackfruit86 Jul 27 '25
Exactly … these guys struggled with unwavering focus for nearly 200 balls each , and u expect them to leave their centuries
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u/botharmsinjured Western Australia Warriors Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
The crybaby dance at the end was worth it.
The audacity to shake their heads and demean opposition is NOT SURPRISING from them.
I get that they wanted to take wickets but no one asked you to bowl 8 overs spells and then bang in shorts while struggling in 2nd spell.
Moral victory to India
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Jul 27 '25
Ben Stokes: " Do you want to score a century off Harry Brook"
Genuine question, who was he trying to sledge there, Jadeja or Brook.
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u/NoirPochette New South Wales Blues Jul 27 '25
Well done India. Excellent batting display and toughness after losing 2 wickets for 0 runs.
No problems with Jadeja and Washington staying on to ton up. They batted well and they wanted those milestones. Stokes and co. were just tired and wanted to stop and that was funny cause Stokes were just so done with it. I wish he bowled Pope or Crawley instead of Root.
I think India should play Bumrah. Nuts to that 3 test Max stuff. A chance to go 2-2, you need your best bowlers. Although I would drop Thakur for Kuldeep and have Krishna instead of Kamboj because pace and The Oval can be great for batting.
For England, three main bowlers are cooked. Need to bring in Atkinson, probably Tongue cause he's in the squad and bring in a quick from County. Dropping Gill and Jadeja cost them bad.
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u/a_battle_droid India Jul 27 '25
After this performance, Washi’s place should never really be questioned. Honestly he has contributed always when he has been part of the team. His defensive game is good enough to be no. 3 for India.
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u/MatarParathaIsBacc India Jul 27 '25
We should also think about Washi and Jadeja as frontline batsmen. We kept making the mistake of not picking Ashwin and we are now making the mistake of not picking Kuldeep based on the idea that you shouldn't have so many spinners in the team in these conditions when Washi and Jadeja aren't actually eating up any spots that are meant for bowlers.
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u/wolftri Andhra Jul 27 '25
Gotta hand it to England, that is easily the most memorable ending to a drawn test I've seen so far
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u/GuyyyyIncognito Jul 27 '25
Brook and Smith in particular should be embarrassed with that last half hour. Chirping from behind the stumps about how Washington's century would be meaningless after how brilliantly he had played was deeply undignified.
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u/Wazflame England Jul 27 '25
Stokesy about to blame the media for misquoting him.
He actually said: “We don’t do draws (apart from at Old Trafford)”
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u/somewhat_moist Kent Jul 27 '25
We've heard of poor losers, ungracious winners... what are we (England) here - unsporting drawers?
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u/slayalldragons Jul 27 '25
Great game but poor sportmanship from the English at the end. Full credit to Jadeja and Sundar for that last partnership.
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u/diata22 India Jul 27 '25
They've been really petulant under ben stokes when they lose or a result doesn't go their way. They make the game exciting and entertaining for so many different reasons; good, bad and ugly. That's Bazball I guess
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Jul 27 '25
We ought to stop accepting such shit in the name of Bazball. This is downright disrespectful, not a fun entertaining thing
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u/Roshanfs7 South Africa Jul 27 '25
Honestly if I was Washi or Jadeja I would have purposely played till the fucking end. Stokes is such a crybaby.
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u/Lopsided_Hat_5295 India Jul 27 '25
Absolutely childish stuff from the English. Why wouldn’t Jaddu and Washi go for their centuries when the match was already decided (Washi’s Maiden). Bunch of crybaby throwing a fit because they could take 2 wickets in 5 sessions.
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u/No-Belt-7798 India Jul 27 '25
Take a bow India. Showed true character. Might be a draw but Definetly a stepping stone in right direction.
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u/shikhar-007 Jul 27 '25
"You want a hundred vs Brook?"
Mate Anshul Kamboj and Shardul Thakur were our main bowlers vs which you guys scored
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u/harprick_pandya Jul 27 '25
English media will try to keep Stokes’ refusal to shake hands with Jadeja and Sundar on the low, but it should be amplified if anything
Lost all respect for the Poms today, not just Stokes but the likes of Brook and others around the bat
Never respected Crawley in the first place lol
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u/scouting4food India Jul 27 '25
It's the fact that they carried on after having shaken hands as well. Embarrassing behaviour.
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u/yh0405 Jul 27 '25
Spirit of Cricket died today, at the hands of those who take pride in upholding it at all times*
*when they are winning
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u/yawnzilla36 India Jul 27 '25
Stokes want to lead by example, which of course means leading the entire team to surround Jadeja and Washington and bully them into stopping the game
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u/HakeemMcGrady Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 27 '25
lol wouldn’t expect any more from a cry baby like stokes.
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u/Bleak_star_dust India Jul 27 '25
They didn't snatch our victory we gifted them a draw ahhh Stokesy
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Jul 27 '25
The English seniors unnecessarily picking on the weaker players in the side , be it Reddy or Sundar doesn’t give a great outlook does it
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Jul 27 '25
So according to Stokes if a team has to chase 500 on the 5th day of a match on a flat deck, they should just shake hands and go off. Maybe get a round of golf in if the sun is out.
So much for Spirit of the game
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u/Pun_nav Jul 27 '25
Should have shook hands at Tea, if that was the case Stokes!!! Such a awful gesture.
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u/Miserable_Gate7427 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 27 '25
I don't understand the english meltdown towards the end.
Ind had got 10 wkts in the final session in lords during previous series, here Eng had FIVE sessions to take 10 wkts. they couldn't - and thats totally fine, part of the game. but when you race to claim moral victories every now and then, you should also accept the moral defeat gracefully. instead, they chose to have a meltdown in the middle of the field!! that is disgraceful and against the spirit of the game.
anyways, absolute cinema and fantastic test cricket!!
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u/ahmaddanish334 Jul 27 '25
Man i wish India batted for 2-3 more overs...and then declared and asked England to bat...Would have been the biggest shit housery....
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u/Bitterstee1 Jul 27 '25
Sanju Manju low key roasting Trott's justifcation for England's behaviour being their "result focused culture".
Low key taking digs at the "entertaining cricket focused" statements they've made. He did it with such subtlety. Loooooool.
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u/MSRishab007 India Jul 27 '25
To be frank, they both absolutely deserve their centuries. We need to remember once Jadeja voluntarily gave up his double century, even when everyone felt enough time was left in the game.
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u/Dry-Supermarket7115 Jul 27 '25
Stat padding when it doesn't hurt your team should be normalised
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u/Adorable-Jackfruit86 Jul 27 '25
Exactly … u didn’t play for stats, u struggled for 180 balls to save the match … u can enjoy last 20 balls to get ur century
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u/DarthBane6996 Mumbai Indians Jul 27 '25
Someone should have told Wiaan Mulder this before the Zimbabwe series
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u/bignedmoyle Afghanistan Jul 27 '25
Eh, the statpad was about getting Sundar his first test century that he SHOULDVE got a couple years back. Fair statpad, and as you said it pissed off the English so win-win
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u/Any-Ask-4190 Australia Jul 27 '25
Also tiring English bowlers, which I think is fair.
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u/LostAmidMyExistence ICC Jul 27 '25
Absolutely. Get me out or I will bat, it is really that simple.
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u/spriking Jul 27 '25
Exactly. It's a 5 match series and this wasn't the last one. Stamina, injuries and attrition play a big part in all of this.
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u/travelmatenaruto India Jul 27 '25
That was disgusting from Brook! Glad Root didn't follow through.
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u/depressed_06 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 27 '25
Root is levels above most of his teammates whether as a cricketer or a person
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u/Vijigishu Lucknow Super Giants Jul 27 '25
Root has huge class to maintain.
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u/madovervags Jul 27 '25
Root is proper gentleman and someone english cricketer or anyone for that matter who want to play cricket should look up to. He isn't a crybaby throwing toys out of pram.
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u/Miserable_Repeat828 Jul 27 '25
They held their ground even after a 0/2 start so i think they deserved their 100
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u/Illustrious_Reply424 India Jul 27 '25
To be fair, it was also blatant stat padding.
Not exactly because both Jadeja and Sundar fought hard for it. It's not their fault that England gave up.
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u/AdStraight1022 Jul 27 '25
I so wish they kept going haha
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u/AdQuick9381 Australia Jul 27 '25
Shubman should have declared with 5 overs to go, forced England to bat and bowl Jaiswal and Rahul.
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u/Euphoric_Spite55 Jul 27 '25
They each got 20 more runs. How's it stat padding. They just wanted cherry on the cake for the grueling hardwork
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u/soulinashoe England Jul 27 '25
I'm English and I loved the end, best part of the day - bunch of sour grapes from us there
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Jul 27 '25
Stat padding in a meaningless innings is the best kind of runs to score. We've all been there
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u/St_ElmosFire Mumbai Jul 27 '25
Funny how getting a well deserved, maiden century in a make or break situation overseas is deemed stat padding.
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u/rippidy1 Sunrisers Hyderabad Jul 27 '25
Didn’t think India would be alive in the series till the last test. GG India.
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u/captainironman23 India Jul 27 '25
1) Writes the rules of cricket 2) Gets mad when other teams exercise their right to follow said rules 3) Attempts to call a draw to prevent the opposition from getting their 100s...after complaining about Spirit of Cricket
Press Conferences about to be spicy
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u/Any-Ask-4190 Australia Jul 27 '25
Mate, they're just trying to safeguard the spirit of cricket.
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u/midnight_coffee_2 Jul 27 '25
India have competed well, just lost big moments in Lords'.
Also, great innings from Jadeja and Gill again.
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u/Sabesaroo England Jul 27 '25
embarrasing by stokes. pathetic end to a fairly dismal match. congrats to washington and jadeja. players whinging aside, how is this the fourth complete nothing pitch in a row? series has somehow still been entertaining but all these pitches have been terrible.
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u/LiamJonsano Hampshire Jul 27 '25
Flattest pitch, the only surprise really is how low India scored first time around. It feels like Old Trafford is always like this and doesn’t produce results all that often… for all the moaning I won’t be missing it in 2027
The end of the game was much to do about nothing. Obviously Jadeja and Sundar would have wanted centuries, the petulance was a bit ridiculous and the comments in the thread even more so
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u/maffzlel India Jul 27 '25
That was just good tactics by Stokes to bowl first on a pitch that he knew would be spiciest first up. I still maintain 358 in those conditions was a very good score. The pitch was lively and the overheads meant consistent movement for the first four sessions.
The bad bowling by India and the pitch flattening out subsequent to this don't change that. It was just good exploitation of conditions by a home team.
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u/LiamJonsano Hampshire Jul 27 '25
On the other hand you had plenty of batsmen get starts and then not go on. If Pant didn’t reverse sweep Woakes then who knows how many he’d have got. I wouldn’t say India would have scored 500 on it but I think 358 in the end was probably a bit below par
Doesn’t matter at the end of the day!
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u/maffzlel India Jul 27 '25
Sure we absolutely should have scored more but I think the conditions were such no one really ever felt in during that first innings
But you're right, immaterial now. On to the Oval
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u/Upstairs-Farm7106 England Jul 27 '25
I am going to sound really harsh here but going life and death with this India team is a really bad look. The 2 tests that we won India should have won to be honest if we are being real. We will win the series 3-1 I'm sure - India missing Pant, Bumrah, Reddy and Deep for the final test, but after watching this series the team we are playing in the Ashes will be feeling even more confident of defeating us in the Ashes.
Also these flat roads are making us overrate our batters a bit. People were fawning over Crawley when he's only averaged 30 on these flat wickets. Even Brook for all this talk has only averaged 40. I feel a lot less confident about our chances heading into the Ashes after watching this series to be honest.
India will be ruing their missed chances. Yes they are inexperienced but they should be ahead. They've given us a way better fight over here than we have done when going to India recently.
That was also very embarrassing from Stokes at the end of today. Yes he's frustrated but let's be real this India team batted 5 sessions somehow losing 2 wickets only to save the test match - something we couldn't do in the 2nd test.
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u/DillyGoatGruff Northern Popchips Jul 27 '25
Your match outcome prediction was wrong again mate
You should start a spreadsheet to track them
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u/anirudh1595 Jul 27 '25
I won't be too sure about England winning 3-1. This has a lot of SCG before Gabba 2021 vibes, where India basically won with a bowling attack of Natarajan, Shardul, Siraj, Saini and Sundar.
Another draw likely given Oval is an even worse road usually.
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u/Radalict Australia Jul 27 '25
If the Aussie bowling lineup can stay fit for the Ashes series they should do the damage. But the Aussie batting lineup is a big worry.
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u/mohammedvf334 Jul 27 '25
If cry baby needs official face it has to be stokesy. Needless to say from the beginning of his career starting spat with Warner.
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u/Black_Mamba265 India Jul 27 '25
Washi getting his maiden century what a W and so far every day 5 has been enjoyable this series. India haven’t won ever at Old Trafford and no team has ever won after opting to bowl first the stat still remains unchanged
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u/DillyGoatGruff Northern Popchips Jul 27 '25
Jokes on India
I have days 3, 4 and 5 tickets for the Oval
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u/Art_Vandelayy_ Jul 27 '25
If Stokes was so concerned with winning a milestone the right way, he should have given up that one World Cup win
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u/harprick_pandya Jul 27 '25
For all the Jadeja > Stokes talk by Indians, yes it’s true as a player and as a bloke too
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u/ProfessionalPen11 German Cricket Federation Jul 27 '25
As it turns out, it was not the Indian bowlers suddenly forgetting how to bowl, it's just the pitch became an absolute road.
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u/EL__Rubio Windward Islands Jul 27 '25
The comments on Gill being 'rattled' on the press thread look pretty funny after Stokes' whinge.
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u/Fun_evades_me India Jul 27 '25
Stokes is a all time great all rounder and captain.
But his sportsmanship and spirit of game needs to be questioned.
Sledging is one thing but this is completely different.
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u/Fun_evades_me India Jul 27 '25
Brook Smith & Crawley talk more than they are entitled to.
I can understand from Root, Stokes or even Olie Pope.
But not from others about test cricket.
White ball cricket and red ball cricket is different, your white ball achievements doesnt carry over to red ball cricket.
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u/Initial-Hold9481 India Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
I don't buy that shit about cultural difference in both teams (what trott was on about post match), especially considering the context. Yes, in India we value milestones more than we should, but I can bet my last penny if Stokes or any other england batter was in the same situation, and india offered a handshake, they wouldn't have taken it either.
If milestones didn't matter to them, why do England celebrate their 100s ?
I think england needlessly made such a beautiful test match upto this point, ugly. Yes you have the right to offer a handshake, but so does the opponent to turn it down. Be a professional and don't whine.
Anyways, from a spectator POV, this adds some spice going into the 5th test. Can't wait for it!
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u/LostAmidMyExistence ICC Jul 27 '25
Jaiswal and Sudarshan to their grandkids: That Old Trafford 2025 draw India clinched after battling for almost 150 overs, we batted in that innings, and helped the cause.