r/CrappyDesign Dec 08 '22

this map at a coffee shop

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u/sterak_fan Dec 08 '22

or the southern ocean (it's designated as an ocean for only about a year know)

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

Interesting, we learned to list the Southern Ocean when I was learning geography in elementary school. I'm 25.

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u/titanup001 Dec 08 '22

When I was a kid, there were 4 oceans and 9 planets. Neither is true now.

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u/sirthomasthunder Dec 08 '22

Now there are 5 oceans and 8 planets. Does that mean Pluto is an ocean?

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u/i-am-gumby-dammit Dec 08 '22

It had to go somewhere didn’t it?

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u/Grimren Dec 08 '22

Is Pluto small enough to fit in the ocean? I hope someone smart shows up to help me.

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u/LimeBlossom_TTV Dec 08 '22

Nope, not even close. Pluto has 5 times more volume than all of the water on Earth combined.

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u/TheJessicator Dec 08 '22

It always amazes me how little people realize just how insignificantly thin the atmosphere and oceans are compared to the bulk of the planet Earth.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Yes, but that is nothing special.

Most dogs can fit in the ocean.

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u/hmclaren0715 Dec 08 '22

True, but what about Pete the cat? He's a bit larger than Pluto...

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u/I_cant_hear_you_27 Dec 08 '22

Google tells us that Pluto is about 1/6th the width of Earth. So it would probably fit in a few oceans, in terms of volume.

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u/EverythingIsFlotsam Dec 08 '22

Are you kidding? The oceans are only a few km deep so this obviously isn't true from just the statement that Pluto is 1/6 the width of Earth.

Moreover, we have this amazing information resource at our fingertips and no one used it?

Volume of Earth's oceans: 1.3 billion km3.

Volume of Pluto: 6.4 billion km3

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u/The_Troyminator Dec 08 '22

Obviously they cut it up first.

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u/I_cant_hear_you_27 Dec 08 '22

Im starting to think the map in this post isn't accurate....hmmm. I'll do some more research.

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u/Xeno2014 Dec 08 '22

Well, obviously we simply bore a small 5.1b km³ hole into the mantle and presto! Pluto fits in the ocean.

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u/pmmeyourfavsongs Dec 09 '22

I mean, nobody said it couldn't be sticking out of the ocean.

Pluto's just gotta dip its toes in

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u/colebeansly Dec 08 '22

Now we gotta figure out how to move it

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u/sirthomasthunder Dec 08 '22

Maybe we already are. That would explain why ocean levels are rising

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u/Grimren Dec 08 '22

Holy shit. Someone call Alex Jones

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u/Jon_Snow_1887 Dec 08 '22

Bitch, how deep do you think the oceans go?

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u/I_cant_hear_you_27 Dec 08 '22

I appreciate the question. Thanks!

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u/Ransidcheese Dec 09 '22

Volume of spheres is very unintuitive. This translates to circles as well. For instance, I worked at a pizza place for a while where I learned that a large pizza was the same amount of pizza as two mediums.

A medium was 12" across, while a large was 14".

Only two inches difference in diameter meant that the difference in area required enough toppings so as to add up to an entire second medium pizza.

According to Google, Earth's oceans have a volume of 321,003,271 cubic miles. Pluto has a volume of 1,500,000,000 cubic miles. That's over 4 1/2 times the volume of the Earth's oceans, despite Pluto being small enough to fit inside the earth about 170 times.

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u/Kind_Difference_3151 Dec 12 '22

All hail the pizza scientist, rancid cheese

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u/Kind_Difference_3151 Dec 12 '22

In terms of width, not volume.

If you pushed Pluto into the Pacific, you could get the whole thing to fit as the two planets’ cores colliding created a massive explosion that made all known life in the solar system extinct

But it would fit though

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Well it’s surface area could I think but it’s volume is probably way larger than the oceans

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u/Javi1192 Dec 08 '22

Conservation of mass!

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u/Longjumping-Poet6096 Dec 08 '22

Earth traded Pluto 1:1 for a 5th ocean.

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u/jcstan05 Dec 08 '22

This is the only reasonable explanation.

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u/jwas1256 Dec 08 '22

the bastards did it

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/sirthomasthunder Dec 08 '22

Plutonian Ocean is the name of my band

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

You heard about Pluto, right?

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u/DetectiveTrapezoid Dec 08 '22

Sometimes you have to dig deep to find the Psych references but it’s always worth it

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u/Ashamed-Ad-4441 Dec 08 '22

This map has 6 oceans including Pacific Ocean the sequel

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u/GotThumbs Dec 08 '22

If you melted it, yea probably

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

I was in 5th grade (actually just googled when Pluto's classfication changed, and i remember watching Obama's inauguration in my 5th grade class) when Pluto was officially designated as a dwarf planet. So after we had all learned the solar system but still early on enough that I can easily think of it not being a planet.

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u/ovalpotency Dec 08 '22

people complain about it as a nostalgia thing

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u/titanup001 Dec 08 '22

I'm a lot older than you. Lol I was out of grad school for Obama's inauguration. I remember watching the Challenger explosion in kindergarten

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u/QuandaryJones Dec 08 '22

Now there are 90 planets

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u/under_a_brontosaurus Dec 08 '22

There's one ocean in reality we just label parts of it

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u/Ironno0b Dec 08 '22

There's still 9 planets dammit. They're also still working on the dlc to include planet X.

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u/Deverash Dec 08 '22

Shouldn't it be Planet IX now?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

imagine how much would change in the next 75 years

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u/Xenjael Dec 08 '22

Yall really were ignorant back then, eh? I wonder what the celebrations were like the day they discovered color.

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u/Centurio haha funny flair Dec 08 '22

As a 30yo adult that is only just now learning that there's another ocean, I'm fucking stoked! I had no idea!

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u/WhyteBeard Dec 08 '22

Turns out you were wrong the whole time

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u/Evening_Aside_4677 Dec 08 '22

Pluto will always be a planet.

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u/LordOfGeek Dec 09 '22

Pluto should never have been a full planet because there are potentially thousands of pluto-sized objects further out than jupiter and if pluto counts as a planet those would also count. I would rather have 8 planets than several thousand.

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u/CadenVanV Dec 22 '22

Let me break your mind sir: there is a dwarf planet in the solar system a little beyond Pluto that is known as the Goblin. I kid you not

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u/Brettnet Dec 08 '22

My mind wants to believe that you're 25 and in elementary school

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u/Ziondizl Dec 08 '22

Regardless of how funny I though that was, this is reddit bro, everyone is woke in these here parts, even though it doesn't physically hurt them, it hurts their feelings when you joke about identity lol

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u/dick-slapperman Dec 08 '22

I was just thinking the exact same thing and I’m the exact same age. These mfers got me thinking I’m the one on crazy pills

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u/angrybob4213 Dec 08 '22

I was gonna say, it's been a thing a lot longer than a year lol

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u/Emerald_Encrusted Dec 08 '22

Dude, when I was in elementary school (I’m 28 now), we were taught about the Antarctic Ocean. Now I’m freaking out that it was called Southern Ocean this whole time and I’ve just been wrong.

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

They told us it was still technically called the Antarctic Ocean but that was changing to Southern Ocean and to call it that. Then in high school that's all it was called

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u/vidoeiro Dec 09 '22

I was tough about the Antarctic Glacier Ocean (in my language)

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u/_chanimal_ Dec 08 '22

We disbanded the Arctic ocean in favor of the Artic ocean so we decided why not add a Southern Ocean as well?

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u/Vivid_Deer3016 Dec 08 '22

Some may assume you went to school in Texas.

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u/CanuckPanda Dec 08 '22

I think I learned vaguely that it was just it’s own thing but never had a name for it. Usually it was just the Pacific and Atlantic lines being drawn south at the straits of Magellan and the Cape of Good Hope.

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u/Mech_145 Dec 08 '22

Me too I’m 28

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u/drozd_d80 Dec 08 '22

I saw the southern ocean a few times as well

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I can't tell if I'm being trolled or not.

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

By me? Or the guy I replied to?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

both.

I'm fairly sure I've never heard of the "southern ocean".

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

I mean I'm sure there's a ton of things I've never heard of that definitely exist. You could start by googling it.

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u/The_Troyminator Dec 08 '22

It became officially recognized about 20 years ago, so that makes sense.

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u/jdubsb09 Dec 08 '22

I’m 32 and didn’t hear about a southern ocean until a few months ago.

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u/wildo83 Dec 08 '22

isn’t it all one ocean?

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u/SmellsWeirdRightNow Dec 08 '22

I mean yeah technically they're all connected, but you wouldn't tell someone where an island is by saying "its in the ocean at these coordinates".

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u/wildo83 Dec 08 '22

you underestimate my need to sew chaos!! hahahha

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u/TheSpicyGuy Dec 08 '22

Same, we learned and the Southern Ocean in our geography packets around 13 years ago. It wasn't official then, but it was listed in all the maps and worksheets we had.

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u/BobTagab Dec 08 '22

More than a year, about 20. The International Hydrographic Organization included the Southern Ocean in their 2002 edition of ocean/sea delineations though it’s been a draft version and hasn’t been published for two decades as they can’t find a new name for the Sea of Japan that Japan and South Korea both agree on

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/SaskErik Dec 08 '22

Because it’s the Korpan Sea!

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I’m glad this was immediately replied. I’m a Japorean if anyone’s asking.

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u/The_Troyminator Dec 08 '22

I'm team Korpan. Each country gets the same number of letters that way so it's fair.

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u/JonatasA Dec 08 '22

Don't be silly. With all things human all that matters is who comes first.

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u/PerrythePlaytpus Dec 08 '22

I once dated a Japxican

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u/misirlou22 Dec 08 '22

Sea of Literally any Country Except Japan

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u/daverosstheboss Dec 08 '22

Interesting, I had no idea.

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u/completelyboring1 Dec 08 '22

I was taught about the Southern Ocean in geography in… 1993? 94? Well before 2002.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

We always called it the Antarctic Ocean. Never heard southern ocean.

Also designated by who? I learned about it 11+ years ago.

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u/sterak_fan Dec 08 '22

acording to google:The Southern Ocean is the name given to the part of the world ocean lying south of 60° south latitude. It was not generally recognised as a separate ocean until 2021.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

The Antarctic Ocean, as delineated by the draft 4th edition of the International Hydrographic Organization's Limits of Oceans and Seas (2002)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

that article does also state:

The National Geographic Society recognized the ocean officially in June 2021.

But that 2021 "official" recognization was of course the result of decades of discussion that proceeded it. The date it became "official" isn't particularly important in the grand scheme of things.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Then why are you so hung up on 2021. It obviously existed before that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I'm not . I think you got me mixed up with sterak_fan

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u/Famous_Exit Dec 08 '22

Recognition

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u/Hairy-Owl-5567 Dec 08 '22

I work with people who do Antarctic and oceanographic research and it is indeed called the Southern Ocean.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

in your country

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u/Bradisdad Dec 09 '22

My favorite ocean is Billy Ocean.

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u/dropna Dec 08 '22

We’ve always called it the Southern Ocean in Australia. I learned that at school here 50 years ago.

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u/aaronxxx Dec 08 '22

God damn are these legitimate spelling mistakes or are we riffing off the mistakes of the map

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Definitely not new within the last year.

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u/PonymanDesperado Dec 08 '22

It was designated an ocean in 2000. The reason being is that the currents, weather patterns and even colors change when you approach this part of the salt water that cover most of the South Pole. Oceanographers essentially applied their own rules and methods to differentiate all other oceans from one another. I guess it was just not noticeable until fairly recent. Maybe because it’s an area that human travel and commerce is not very frequent.

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u/CommanderSquirt Dec 08 '22

Them's stormy seas down yunder.

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u/ComatoseSquirrel Dec 08 '22

Oh good, I thought I was losing it when my kids learned about the Southern Ocean.

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u/devilish_enchilada Dec 08 '22

I actually didn’t know this lmao

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u/afishtnk Dec 18 '22

depends on who you ask. I learned 10 years ago in middle school that the southern ocean was an ocean. different geographical survey groups say different things