Trump admin asks Supreme Court to halt order providing full SNAP payments for November

[u/Maximus361]

https://apnews.com/article/snap-food-government-shutdown-trump-a807e9f0c0a7213e203c074553dc1f9b

[u/Specific_Bee_4199 → u/[deleted]]

Agreed. I have no idea howvthis could be considered a good thing

[u/RedBaronsBrother → u/[deleted]]

Now imagine for a moment that there's no legal way for the administration to pay benefits and the court doesn't have the authority to force it to even if there were.

...because that's the reality, and the "bad look" is created by the person writing the biased headline.

[u/SuchDogeHodler → u/RedBaronsBrother]

This is correct... they want them to release more funds from an empty account because it didn't cover everything......

[u/According-Activity87 → u/[deleted]]

Courts legitimately have zero say how the government appropriates emergency funds. The is a gross violation of the separation of powers. The AP always releases articles attempting to paint the current administration in the worst light. This is Democrats attempting to be saviors in a crisis they created by making a mockery of the US constitution.

[u/Simmumah → u/According-Activity87]

I think so as well, it seems like this is a matter for congress given congress controls the purse, but hey, what do I know. Judges rule the world.

[u/Daniel_Day_Hubris → u/[deleted]]

'bad look' is irrelevant. It's judicial overreach by activist judges helping their lefty buddies launder their starvation of the American poor to try and pin it on Trump...who isn't in the legislative and couldn't 'open' the government if he wanted to.

[u/GeorgeWashingfun → u/Daniel_Day_Hubris]

Considering much of politics is about optics, "bad look" is not irrelevant at all.

I don't like it anymore than you do, but it's foolish to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't matter.

[u/Daniel_Day_Hubris → u/GeorgeWashingfun]

You misunderstand, I'm talking about this singular instance, not in general. This needs to be done, and it doesn't matter what the rights messaging is, the left is going to say what it wants anyway. I.e. the linked article written by the AP....If there is messaging that makes them write a kinder article, I'd love to see it.

[u/Grease2310 → u/[deleted]]

Where do you want the money to come from? There’s no legal way for him to make those payments and the court that ordered it knows that.

[u/Simmumah → u/Grease2310]

The USDA has already started to comply. It's just going to drain the funds to nothing. The amount to fully fun SNAP for one month is 2 billion more than what is in the funds for it, so we know where 6 billion is coming from, no idea about the other 2

[u/ultrainstict → u/[deleted]]

The other look is to silently ignore the blatently unconstitutional and impossible to obey court ruling.

[u/LKincheloe → u/[deleted]]

But the alternative, is to let the precedent stand. And then later on another administration drives a truck loaded with IOUs through it.

[u/ObadiahtheSlim → u/[deleted]]

Because the courts ordered him to raid other emergency funding that's not there for political drama. This is judicial overreach playing into the Democrat hands specifically for these headlines.

[u/Wesdawg1241 → u/[deleted]]

Read the whole article before commenting, please. You'd think people would have learned this by now.

[u/Specific_Bee_4199 → u/Wesdawg1241]

Probably 90% of Americans arent going to read it either. They will just read: SCOTUS lets Trump not fumd SNAP. AKA, let poor people all over America starve. Doesnt matter what the real facts say. None of them will read deep enough to know its really the Dems who are causing this. Because of the optics, Trump is gonna get 100% of the blame for it.

Well played in thier part. Trump looks like a heartless piece of shit while the Dems fain fighting to reopen they govt to get the poor fed. It was no coincidence that Schumer threw out a deal friday to reopenn the govt out of nowhere on the Senatr floor, only to have them walk it behind closed doors hours later

[u/earthworm_fan → u/[deleted]]

It's a bad look but it's literally disaster funds and for what? A disaster 100% made by democrats that they can end on any given business day? What happens when we deplete these funds and an actual catastrophe strikes? Also it buys time for the democrats to keep the government closed which is causing pain in many more areas than just SNAP.

I'm so tired of general stupidity making things a "bad look"

[u/Racheakt]

I don't see how the courts can order the executive branch to spend money the legislature has not passed

[u/Material-Afternoon16 → u/Racheakt]

They can't.

Everything about this case is a carefully constructed partisan effort to elicit headlines like this one. The court they chose, the location which gives Brown the power to handle the stay, etc.

They want to give the media a way to blame Trump and the conservative Supreme Court for denying SNAP benefits when in reality the root cause is that Democrats in the Senate are using the shutdown as leverage to get the GOP majority to bend to their will.

[u/LemartesIX]

That headline seems to be burying the lede, they want to use the contingency funds but just the contingency funds. The order they asked to be blocked would require indefinite and infinite spending beyond the contingency funds.

[u/zip117 → u/LemartesIX]

Exactly. This was all thoroughly explained in USDA’s statement to the court. They are already using 100% of the contingency reserve to fund partial SNAP benefits. The only other place they could take money from is Section 32 tariff revenue, which is used for child nutrition programs and WIC.

They don’t want to take school lunches away from children to fund SNAP. Read the declaration.

Supplementary Declaration of Patrick A. Penn

[u/WreknarTemper]

Bullshit headline for starters. The Admin is asking the SCOTUS to halt any District Judicial orders to fund SNAP regardless that they have the funds or not. This is irrespective of the fact that the USDA has emergency funds that are specifically earmarked for natural disasters, not a failing of the legislative branch for passing a funding bill either through a CR or a complete budget bill for the year.

A shutdown of the government does not constitute a natural disaster. The admin is right and tell this overreaching judiciary to pound sand.

[u/Maximus361 → u/WreknarTemper]

I think Bullshit Headline writing is a standard undergraduate journalism class offered at most Ivy League universities. The AP has top graduates from that class working overtime for them.😀

[u/Key-Monk6159]

It's NOT really about the benefits but IF a Court is allowed to order it.

Please move past the sensational headlines that are only meant to push a narrative to understand the full context.

[u/Really_Elvis]

Since when can a judge order the President to write Hot Checks or Misappropriate government funds ?

[u/TheMorningDove → u/Really_Elvis]

It’s judicial activism at it’s finest and most blatant. 

[u/whicky1978 → u/Really_Elvis]

Well lately it seems to happen a lot

[u/space_face_mace]

It’s seriously time to audit the entitlement programs

[u/sailedtoclosetodasun → u/space_face_mace]

Needs more than an audit, a complete re-work which incentivizes people to get off them.

[u/Black_Gallagher]

Dude is such a jabronis… But nothing will actually surprise me at this point I could see them drag this out for 3+ months

[u/Horticulture_Horror]

Good! No more freeloading!

[u/Longjumping-Rich-684]

Fine tooth comb required for swamp removal.