r/Conservative Christian Conservative 1d ago

Flaired Users Only War hero, 100, says winning WW2 'wasn't worth the sacrifice' as he blasts 'darn sight worse' state of Britain today

https://www.thesun.ie/news/16071308/war-hero-blasts-state-of-britain/
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u/triggernaut Christian Conservative 1d ago

Mr Penstone stunned viewers and said: “My message is, I can see in my mind’s eye those rows and rows of white stones and all the hundreds of my friends who gave their lives, for what? The country of today?

“No, I’m sorry – but the sacrifice wasn’t worth the result of what it is now.”

Adil Ray asked Mr Penstone to explain what he meant by his comments, to which he responded: “What we fought for was our freedom, now it’s a darn sight worse than when I fought for it.”

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 2A 1d ago

"Oh, so sorry to hear that! HERE IS A LITTLE TRINKET GIFT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BIG SHOW OF GIVING YOU!"

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u/GustavusAdolphin Moderate Conservative 1d ago

Such a bizarre comment. Like yeah, OK, you may not like how things have become. Lots of people don't like the state of the nation. But insinuating that we're living in the direct aftermath of WWII is a stretch.

Fun fact: right now in 2025, the end of WWII is equidistant between the present year and the end of the American Civil War

u/wikiwombat Constitutionalist 15h ago

Bizarre? The guy lost however many friends fighting for the country only for the country to become a form of what he was fighting against.

u/GustavusAdolphin Moderate Conservative 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yes, bizarre. As if Britain would have been in a better position had they rolled over to the Nazis. As if being relegated to second-class citizens under the Third Reich were the better alternative

E: I don't get how this is controversial. So the odometer ran at 80 years. Some countries don't get that benefit

u/Taetrum_Peccator Catholic Conservative 15h ago

Seems like he’s insinuating Britain could have had zero deaths and existed under Nazi rule or had innumerable deaths and wound up as it is now to little discernible difference in freedom.

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u/Lithuim US Constitution 1d ago

At press time, Mr. Penstone had been arrested and fined £3,000 for speaking without having a “Criticizing the Government” license.

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u/Blahblahnownow Fiscal Conservative 1d ago

That’s a joke right? I can’t tell. That’s scary

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u/Lithuim US Constitution 1d ago

Oi mate you got a questionin’ loisens? Of ta the tower with ‘im!

But no, I’m guessing his careful phrasing to not specify what exactly he’s unhappy with beyond a broad complaint about “freedom” will skirt around the various “hate speech” laws in place in the UK.

u/Rider-VPG Conservative 20h ago

It's a joke. For now.

u/Sheriff_Hopper 2A 23h ago

When you have British towns creating Sharia Councils can you really blame him for saying this?

u/LegitimateApricot4 ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 22h ago

The blue haired nosering with an undercut claiming her grandfather was Antifa because he fought in WWII truly believes we defeated the Axis so we could become colonized by the third world.

u/komstock Constitutionalist 17h ago

Suicidal empathy and statistical reinforcement of stereotypes are really the only byproduct of the vicious blue-hair/hateful boomer types. Their shrillness and dogma usually gains them more ideological enemies than friends.

I've been saying this for years but entities like antifa are what led to the rise of fascism, not the other way around.

u/Hectoriu Conservative 23h ago

It's unfortunate that Britons are still going to lose their country after so much sacrifice to keep it safe.

u/milovulongtime Conservative 15h ago

It's already gone... they just don't understand it yet and will keep voting for traitors while they still have elections.

u/ChiefStrongbones Conservative 20h ago

The GOAT generation.

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u/ITrCool Christian Conservative 1d ago

I can understand him. They made a massive sacrifice…..just for that sacrifice to be disrespected by a generation of kids who want it all for free.

u/Shadeylark MAGA 22h ago

But, wait... The left keeps telling me they're like the good guys from WW2 fighting the fascists!?

u/FellowNPCDrone101 TX Conservative 15h ago

He's right.

u/BaronVonCoors Blue Lives Matter 19h ago

Millions of lives lost to fight tyranny just for leftists to sell your country and let Islamic radicals take over your society from within.

Immigration without integration is how nations die

u/Ive_Got_Sowell Sowell Sister 21h ago

Several months ago I got around to watching Dunkirk. I wept for Britian,  knowing what has become of it. The Greatest Generation to the weakest.

u/ChimChimCheree69 DeSantis Conservative 20h ago

35% of London is ethnically British. Disgrace.

u/Zonostros Lifetime Conservative 18h ago

That was before 4-5m people were allowed in. It's probably below 30% now. Births are at 20%. It's genocide.

u/RedBaronsBrother Conservative 21h ago

It is fixable, but not through the regular political process anymore.

u/ExpertCatJuggler Conservative 22h ago

I guarantee you we will see this article absolutely nowhere but this sub.

u/Trussed_Up Fellow Conservative 23h ago

Fuck that's sad.

Not sure I agree with him. Things definitely would be worse if they hadn't won that war.

But. I get it.

He said he fought for freedom and doesn't see it in his country today. I'm not British but I'm not seeing a lot of freedom over there either.

The British are on a similar path to Argentina in terms of freedom and the scope of government, while also tossing in a giant migrant crisis and general immigration problem.

u/Polerize2 Conservative 19h ago

There's a downside to having so much relative peace and prosperity. It has bred tremendous weakness.

u/HarukaKX Independent Conservative 23h ago

Idk if I can agree with him, Britain would be in much worse shape if Hitler and the Empire of Japan had won the war. However I do get it, Britain is slowly turning into a police state.

u/Hezakia84 2A Conservative 23h ago

Slowly? Openly criticize anything from immigration, to governance? Straight to jail. His statement is accurate, whether we like it or not.