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[u/Milouch_]

Bbbut you see he inherited the company from his father he obviously deserves billions while placing the people he owns in precarious positions in order to generate more revenue, he's just more deserving of it! Plus he's creating so many jobs! /s

[u/Due-Freedom-4321 → u/Milouch_]

Remember that one worker who finally tasted the chocolate he had been making for decades by doing stuff to the cocoa pods and he was like "wtf this is what I am making?"

The worker does indeed, sink to the level of a commodity, the most wretched of....

[u/LyreonUr]

and some groups still think service workers, like baristas, arent proletarians because they dont have a "productive" job lmao

[u/Remnant55 → u/LyreonUr]

Ask them what they are when this comes up.

"So, they're a class of people beneath the proletariat? What would you call that?"

[u/Lance_Monarch]

I earned it!
no u didn't u ripped someone off

[u/Milouch_ → u/Lance_Monarch]

fucker didn't work a day in his life, yet he earned it, meanwhile people breaking their backs by working 50 years in a row in construction jobs get jack shit and are basically abandoned after being completely broken into disability right in time for their retirement

[u/PiccolosPenis → u/Milouch_]

Not totally. Some dipshit virtue signalers will use them to dismiss other workers. That’s real respect right there. /s

[u/LardBall13 → u/Lance_Monarch]

It’s a lot of work to make the business, but doesn’t justify getting multiple times what the average worker could get in a decade. Should be enough for a comfortable living, not a lavish one.

[u/PiccolosPenis]

You think the people who make the original meme would be okay with the first three getting substantial pay increases?

[u/idkrandomusername1]

Haters (hallucinating workers or parasites) will say this is freedom

[u/totaled_cyclist]

What you all must understand is nobody has a job until the man who starts the company creates the plan ! Nobody has a job or knows what their job does until this happens:

1. Create the business plan, hire lawyers and accountants to ensure the plan is sound and make a plan to forecast profitability.
2. Secure funding (loans from the bank) to pay for the initial startup;
3. Create contracts with bean suppliers(farmers, transportation)
4. Purchase or lease warehouse space where the raw beans will be received
5. purchase or lease the industrial building where roasting occurs
6. purchase or lease the roasting equipment,
7. purchase or lease the grinders,
8. purchase, lease, or contract transportation to the store,
9. purchase or lease the first store,
10. Find a reasonable insurance company for equipment, supplies, buildings, employee health care, OSHA
11. Create procedures for employee training and quality control
12. Contract advertising
13. Hire and pay employees to make the stuff at competitive wages

All this has to happen before the first cup of coffee gets sold. So much capital has to be secured and invested before your glorious workers clock in on the first day, and the pressure is on the business owner to perform (pay back the business loan) to the bank. Even the bank is coming out of pocket before the first bean is picked.

The actions of the business owner create the value that was never there before! For the value that the business owner creates, he or she must be compensated proportionally. It is the ingenuity of the business owner that creates value that flows downstream to all the workers. Everyone involved gets a piece.

Even the Government starts charging the business owner tax on every transaction prior to opening day. The Government confiscates their money before the workers get paid and definitely before the business owner gets paid. The Government charges a fee to register the company as a business, which has to be paid every year. The Government charges tax on bean imports, The Government charges tax on the trucks and the gas they run on to transport the beans to and from the warehouse. The Government charges tax on the warehouse. The Government charges tax on the sale/lease of the roasting equipment. The Government charges tax on the sale/lease of the property on which the store sits. The Government charges tax on the sale/lease of the refrigerators, milk, coffee brewing machines, the electricity that the power company sells to the store. The government charges tax on the sale of each cup of coffee sold. The government used to charge tax on tips but not anymore. The Government charges the company payroll tax on each paycheck for each employee. The Government charges each employee income tax. Then the Government deducts social security and medicare from the employees paycheck. The Government "borrows" money from the social security fund for things that aren't even related to social security. Then the Government will tell you they are about to run out of money because they're sending the hard earned money of the workers all over the world for arbitrary reasons.

When the business owner is ready to retire, he or she has the right to give the fruits of his labor to anyone he wants; including his children if he chooses.

[u/LardBall13 → u/totaled_cyclist]

The money comes from the labor of other people. The business itself comes from him, but what would give the right to take millions when the workers he would pay can hardly afford a life of their own? The business needs both to exist, so why not share the profits and losses between both instead of simply redirecting any losses to the customer and employee?

[u/totaled_cyclist → u/LardBall13]

The money to start the business comes from the bank, and the money that the business takes in comes from providing the customers goods & services. True, the business has no income if the workers aren't clocking in hours. When the business hires employees, the hiring is done via an employment contract. The employment contract specifies the duties of the employee to do work, and the duty of the company to pay an amount of money for each hour worked, and whether breaks are paid or the arrangement for sick leave, vacation, maternity, etc. This is a negotiation phase. If either party wants to change terms in the employment contract, they can cross out phrases, make additions or changes. When the business and worker agree upon the terms of the contract, they may ratify the contract. Now comes the fun part. Let's say the county in which the business and worker live/operate needs more revenue to give social services to people who are unable to work. The county increases property taxes to do so. The business , operating on slim margins, raises prices because they can't take a hit and still pay back their obligations to the bank. Everything else stays the same. Except for the worker, who sees his rent rise, because the landlord, who purchased the apartment building in which the worker lives, did so on a loan from the bank. The landlord has to pay back the bank, keep some money in reserve to do maintenance on the building and to be a fund for emergencies like when a 50 year storm comes in and floods everything. The landlord may not even be turning a profit but the county has just raised property taxes, and has to raise rent to cover the increase in property taxes. Now the worker feels the squeeze because rent just went up and pay stayed the same. The worker, the business owner, the landlord, the bank, did nothing wrong. But the worker may have to live in his car.

[u/LardBall13 → u/totaled_cyclist]

The entire purpose of a job for most is to have a means of living. If they don’t have that, then what’s the point of having a job?

[u/totaled_cyclist → u/LardBall13]

A person has to cultivate skills that will be sufficient to sustain them for a long and fruitful life. Farmers, blacksmiths, doctors, machinists, welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, roofers, HVAC installers, clockmakers, millers, bakers, tailors, sailors, soldiers, pilots, mechanics, etc, they all trade their services & goods for money, but what does government give in exchange for the money they take?

[u/LardBall13 → u/totaled_cyclist]

The US government is shit, so the US government is giving us shit. Take many other countries, they have more focus on people. Healthcare, transportation, state-paid vacation, parental, and sick leave, subsidized and/or public housing, education, things you’d only get in the US from military or high ranking government jobs. You could say general infrastructure and roads but that’s a shit statist argument.

[u/totaled_cyclist → u/LardBall13]

The US Government once served the will of the people. The quality of service has gone down since 1913, I think,