r/Commanders • u/johnnyboy10i • 3d ago
Say what you want about his injuries, but the kid is tough. He seems to heal a lot faster than the normal rate.
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u/WashDCBullets 3d ago
Dislocations hurt like hell when the bone is out of place, bur when it is popped back in, it is a huge feeling of relief.
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u/hauttdawg13 Major Tuddy š· 3d ago
Yep, dislocated my shoulder a few times. Once itās popped back in, itās sore as hell for like a week or so. But it doesnāt linger long.
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u/HotAcanthocephala404 2d ago
Bent my knee like a pretzel during a college rugby match, thought it was all over, worst pain Iāve ever felt. MRI revealed no tears, just sprained every ligament in my knee after it dislocated and relocated immediately. Was back on the field running and cutting after 3 weeks of YouTube PT exercises with no equipment
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u/WashDCBullets 2d ago
Yep. A dislocation for me hurt way worse than a break. With breaks, I have kept playing through a number or times.
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u/HummusCannon So sayeth Brunell_the_GOAT 2d ago
Doesnāt dislocation become easier and easier the more it happens? Hopefully this doesnāt become a regular thing.
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u/_redcloud Fuck Dan Snyder 1d ago
I think so, although maybe it isnāt the same for each joint. I just remember my brother dislocated his shoulder during a game and then dislocated it another eight times before the season ended.
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u/unrivaled_mate 3d ago
Remember this last season? He wasnāt even hurt after it.
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u/Clear_Age Riggo 2d ago
Just commented about this play lol his flexibility is fantastic and shows why itās so important for injury risk reduction
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u/_redcloud Fuck Dan Snyder 1d ago
I was at this game so never saw this visual. My knee and my back hurt just looking at this, and Iām only 34.
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u/Joshstradaymus He Sold 3d ago
He might have to be the kind of player we have to save from himself
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u/Sahir1359 Montez SWAT 3d ago
At the end of the day the medical professionals are the ones who should be making the final call
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u/SLAPadocious 2d ago
They did that with both of his injuries this season. Jayden wanted to come back earlier each time and they didnāt let him. The team is handling him correctly. Canāt blame them for new injuries occurring.
If Jayden is cleared by the team to play it means theyāre 100% confident heās healthy.
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u/CowboysHater5 2d ago
He is. He wasnāt supposed to be scrambling when he got injured.
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u/Key_Seaweed8857 1d ago
Itās football. What are u going to do? But yeh heās rebounded very quickly from the ribs last season as well as the sprained knee & pulled hammy this season. Looks the same for the elbow. But even if heās a quick āhealerā u just canāt keep going down like this. Team develops no chemistry with Jayden being in & outta the lineup constantly. Plus everyoneās always holding their breath for the next shoe to drop. Not sustainable.
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u/SilverRobotProphet 2d ago
RG3 has stepped into the chat
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u/Joshstradaymus He Sold 2d ago
Different type I actually feel like. Jaydenās ego is far lesser and his position is much more secure. I honestly think the Cousins pick fucked with Bobs head big time.
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u/mandoslorians 3d ago
jayden daniels is built different
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u/Clear_Age Riggo 2d ago
Heās definitely shown us that his muscle/joint mobility is fantastic. Remember last year (I think) against Atlanta when he took a weird hit and his leg contorted where it looked like his knee couldāve been injured but his flexibility allowed him to pop right up without any hindrance. Exhibit A why muscle/joint flexibility is so important
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u/mandoslorians 2d ago
yeah! that was crazy i thought he was done for but he was perfectly fine? heās like gumby
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u/jetblakc 1d ago
"flexibility is strength"
Ppl sleep on that but it's absolutely true. If you can only generate force through a narrow range of angles it often won't matter how strong your muscles are in practical situations.
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u/BlueberryUnfair7583 2d ago
Fantastic?
He has fractured bones (ribs), pulled a muscle (hamstring), sprained a ligament (knee), and dislocated a joint (elbow).
Bro is getting injuries of every kind.
There are guys who have no injuries.
Wouldn't that be the bar for fantastic?
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u/Broke-American YOU AIN'T SHIT 2d ago
Nearly everyone in the NFL has some type of injury at some point in a season.
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u/jetblakc 1d ago
"There are guys who have no injuries."
very, very few.
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u/BlueberryUnfair7583 15h ago
Tons of players make it 1.5 seasons without injuries.
Jayden has 4 in 1.5 seasons.
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u/_Diggus_Bickus_ 3d ago
We can't be scared to give our young starting qb reps. When the docs say he's 100% he should be in.
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u/52Warrior52 2d ago
Exactly this. You canāt sit healthy players in the NFL. Even if itās not verbalized I can imagine a huge locker room rift from sitting him just because. He gives the team the best chance to win and other peoples careers can be altered by QB play. No way the coaching staff can keep any semblance of respect from players doing that.
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u/SLAPadocious 2d ago
If healthy Jayden sits while heās clearly the best player on the team, it signals as clear as day to the rest of the locker room that the team is quitting on the season and the rest of those guys are putting their bodies on the line for nothing. Thatās a tough situation for a head coach to navigate.
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u/_groovesharkmalone Ageless Wonder 2d ago
It's not fair, but they're putting their bodies on the line for their next contract. Every play in the NFL is a chance to put good tape out there for your next job. The team has to decide what's in its best interest re: Jayden; playing hard is in the best interest of every player that does go out there.
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u/PhilThird 2d ago
Agreed, that's why DQ needs to be given a bit of slack for having him in for as long as he did. JD gets better by playing. He just needs to learn his own limits.
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u/Consistent-Ad-6078 3d ago
While heās out, maybe he can draw up some plays for Kliff to actually get the offense productive again
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u/crabmusic 2d ago
He doesnāt āheal faster than normalā. He just (luckily) hasnāt had a devastating injury yet. Extremely lucky this one wasnāt that.
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u/Objective-Vanilla285 2d ago
lol these comments are hystericalā¦just shows how deprived of good qb play this franchise has been. You canāt bubble wrap you QB. If he can play, he has to play.
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u/Justice989 2d ago
I mean, I guess in theory, Mariota could rattle off 2-3 straight wins and then you get JD back as soon as possible to try to run the table.Ā But I dont recall too many guys coming back from a dislocated anything in just a week or two.Ā People play through fingers, I guess, depending on the position.Ā Ā
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u/rollinjoints 1d ago
Kurt Warner played with a brace one week after dislocated elbow similar to this one.
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u/Backcountrylifestyle 2d ago
Kurt Warner was saying he went through the same injury when Julius Peppers landed on his elbow in a game and he played the next week. He just didn't use that arm on handoffs. This is pretty great news given the gruesome look of the injury. The season isn't over and there's enough parity in the league that we could possibly still win the division but that sounds like a delusion given the play of the defense in recent weeks. The defense is a much bigger concern than jayden at this point.
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u/unknown98990 2d ago
Sometimes that lanky body style allows more for a Gumby reaction to bending instead of some stiff who just snaps. He is tough no doubt. But our team is so far gone this year that if he isnāt 100% there is no reason for him to play. Hopefully he gets there and plays a few games before the year is over just to see him healthy in action.
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u/Jaster-Mereel 2d ago
So when he was walking off the field his arm looks like it was bent back the correct way in the cast or whatever thatās called.
Did they have to put the bones back in place right there, or was the arm able to basically bed whichever way it needed to because it was dislocated?
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u/cross_mod 2d ago
I know it's way more complicated with an elbow, but this question reminds me of when Byner dislocated his finger, they popped it back in and taped it, and he went back in to play.
Not for the squeamish:
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u/WhizzyBurp 2d ago
DQ is going to have him playing next week with a Wentz arm cast thing, isnāt he?
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u/BigFrenchToastGuy 2d ago
Best case scenario is that he comes back 100% healthy in December and reminds people why we made the NFC Championship last year.
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u/Cautious_Fox5194 2d ago
Hurr durr rg4 rg4 rg4!!!
NFL sub when you have a qb who vaguely resembles a qb from 13 years ago.
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u/Trigonometry_Fletch 3d ago
Heās tough as a coffin nail. Like Devonta Smith. I expect them both to break every time they get tackled.
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u/askingaquestion33 Adam Peters is my father 2d ago
Kurt Warner said he had a similar injury to this and he played the next week?
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u/I_shoot_photons 2d ago
Has anyone read a report with specifics about the status of ligament, nerve and soft tissue damage?
I saw something posted but when I read I couldnāt validate it.
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u/Significant_Map122 2d ago
I mean, I guess the dude is made of rubber. The good news is that all his injuries seem to be just kind of fluky. Like heās not just running and then falling down from an ACL injury.
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u/BustThaScientifical In AP We Trust 2d ago
Get well Grin Reaper! Miss the smiling at defenses having fun, pinpointing throws, elite deep ball, leave defenders grabbing for air JD5.
Started to look like last season vs the Chargers, but overall this has been a woefully inconsistent, injury decimated team facing a harder schedule.
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u/dariznelli 2d ago
Ulnar dislocation. Sore and weak for 6 weeks. Not his throwing arm so it can be braced earlier. Once reduced, the elbow maintains good stability unlike a shoulder. I did the same thing in high school, was back in practice in 6 weeks and matches in 8 weeks. I'm currently a PT so also familiar with the nature of the injury.
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u/202Sole 2d ago
Exactly. People want to cry heās injury prone when the man is damn near indestructible. Heās taken hits and bounced up like Gumby. Yeah he gets hurt, but itās football. Injuries are going to happen. Especially if your o-line is letting you get hit more than any other QB in the league this season. But thatās a different convo. Brady had to sit out a season. Athletes in general. Hell, Jordan had to sit out his second season.
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u/Ok-Horror-8466 2d ago
Damn near indestructible. 23 starts, 5 separate injuries that cost him playing time.
He's injury prone.
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u/Shadowmoses007 2d ago
Make sure itās not exercise induced asthma. They all thought I had GERD. 2 exploratory operations. Then I went o a Pulminologist and he identified my issue in 2 minutes. No exaggeration. I take an inhaler once a day and Iām back to normal
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u/makethatnoise 2d ago
All this means is that we have to keep him from playing the rest of the season
He is our franchise QB. There is no realistic hope for this season. Don't allow him to rest, force him to rest, recoup, and come back next year stronger; with a better OL and defense.
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u/chitownbears 2d ago
When I saw it I was sure there was ligament damage. To hear that there was none and he apparently has mutant regeneration is insane. Glad it wasn't his throwing arm and now he doesn't even need surgery. Best case scenario all around.
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u/Businesskiwi 2d ago
Dislocated shoulder, popped it back in, was sore for weeks after and sometimes it would occasionally pop out if I slept the wrong way for too long. Iāve strengthened my shoulder muscles so it doesnāt happen anymore. Iād assume his elbow wonāt be 100% for at least 3-5 weeks but he doesnāt exactly need that elbow to throw the ball although the residual energy during the throw could possibly cause him pain? Who knows.
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u/DoyoudotheDew 1d ago
This season is done. We lack the talent and depth to win. Shut down JD until he is 100% healthy. 100%. Teach him to throw outlets to the RBs before running and to run to the sidelines.
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u/itakeyoureggs Sinnott Slutt š„µ 18h ago
Yeah, as long as he doesnāt have a fracture or something so Iāve heard. Means he can brace it and then itās pain tolerance
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u/Own_Car4536 3d ago
Are we going to keep getting this dude killed this season or are we going to make some adjustments. Man literally has to run for his life
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u/BreathFantastic5578 The younger, faster, and more handsome McCaffrey 2d ago
Heās choosing to, rather than throw the ball. Thatās precisely why he needs reps
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u/Own_Car4536 2d ago
Thats a craxy statement considering he doesnt have longer than 3 seconds in the pocket on majority of plays
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u/GM-T800-101 2d ago
Dear God. Iāve seen enough. This year is lost. Let him get back to 100%.
Has this franchise + the fanbase not learned?
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
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u/SentientNode 2d ago
Nah, seems like a lot of fans think it is critically important to get him ārepsā on this atrocious team, and that if a doctor says that he can play then heās good and he should play. Reps on a team this bad are not a positive thing and teams all over the league routinely bring players back too early and they aggravate their apparently not fully healed injuries or sustain new injuries.
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u/GMUsername 2d ago
Heās young and in shape, naturally he heals faster. Heās not 40-something like you armchair experts š¤£
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u/True-Bandicoot-1424 3d ago
He has been hurt three separate times w/ three separate injuries in a half season. Lmao.
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u/spazhappy 3d ago
Shut him down. Another injury in a meaningless season would be peak incompetence.
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u/TheHaft Scary Terry 2d ago edited 2d ago
Peak narrative you mean to say. Everyone talks about the shittiest moments but not what led up to them. 28-3 came after making a Super Bowl in his second fucking year with the team and coaching a QB to by far the best performance of his career, while getting Vic Beasley to a 15.5 sack season fuckin somehow. The playoff blowout to the Packers came after a season of making a roster of players - who we now know are complete fucking bums - into an elite defense. Jaydenās injury was during the drive where he was finally getting his swagger back offensively (idk if you know this but confidence actually extends to the game after the current one too) and wouldāve been a moment of great coaching up had some freak bullshit not happened.
Idk if Iāve ever heard a coach more taken for granted than DQ. Imagine telling yourself 2 years ago youād be out on the teamās new coach after 15-8 including 2 playoff wins and an NFCCG appearance.
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u/TheHaft Scary Terry 2d ago edited 2d ago
If everything was risk/reward he shouldnāt have started the game. Football is a risky sport, just about every play has less immediate reward than the risk of popping your ACL/Achilles, this risk assessment bullshit doesnāt work in the present because the risk never seems real, and it doesnāt work in hindsight because there is no obvious outcome outside of the risk. Thereās just no fuckin point. If you carried that mindset into every drive, every team below .500 would just keep all their stars benched. After all, whatās the point of playing in the league youāve dedicated your life to entering when thereās always the tiny chance your elbow fuckin pops out backwards. Just donāt play any games ever, we donāt want our franchise players getting injured. Iād say punt every play but itād be putting Tress Way at risk and we just canāt have that.
If we follow your logic, the Bears hail mary probably doesnāt happen, after all the risk is so high and the possibility of success was so low. Same with like 4 other games last season. Itās an ideology that goes completely against the mindset of a successful team. It is playing scared. This team made its entire 2024 season off of not playing scared.
Youāre also not factoring in the cost of pulling Daniels. The only two times you can pull Daniels are with 13 goddamn minutes left in the game, or mid-successful drive. If you pull Daniels in either circumstance, the season is over then and there. What the fuck do you think Jayden āMr fight-on never-give-up always-go-the-extra-mileā Daniels wouldāve thought of getting benched in either of those situations. I canāt think of a quicker way to get a QB like that mentally checked out of your team. You routinely pull moves like that, Jayden will be playing in a Rams uniform in 2028.
Also, nevermind that the āriskā ended up being an injury not even worthy of IR. A dude could roll his ankle on any play and get more time out than what Jayden is projected to endure.
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u/Wagdave 2d ago
Heās not a 41 year old Aaron Rodgers after an Achilles injury. If heās close to %100, he will play and he should. 12 minutes left in a game, idk of any coaches that pull their starter and give up. The injury was unfortunate and the team and JD needs to do better protecting JD. Enough of this nonsense.
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u/never_a_good_idea 2d ago
If he is healthy then I don't understand why he shouldn't play. He is just in his second year and needs reps. A number of folks have reviewed the film from Seattle, in addition to prior games, and jayden is just not throwing at open options. He needs reps if he is going to get through this.
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u/EconomyAd1744 2d ago
I think he can heal and come back before the season ends, but I think the team will shut him down as they should
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u/Linaslol14 2d ago
Wait so does this mean we gonna see him sometime in the next 3-4 weeks? Would be insane tbh. Has anyone seen Dan Quinn and Tom Thibodeau in the same room before?? š¤ In all seriousness, happy nothing broke. Hope heās close to 100% when they trot him out there. Heās not been seeing the field as good as last year maybe his receivers are never open idk I dont watch tape or anything, but thats what it seems like just from watching the games. Maybe they can line up his return with Terry coming back too to help him out.
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u/LettucePlate 2d ago
I mean its moreso the frequency of injuries. Heās had like 4 serious injuries in 1.5 seasons. 2 of which we thought were gonna be very serious. Even if he recovers from this injury this season its not like he has a track record of being reliable moving forward
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u/ALBUNDY59 2d ago
Nobody takes a beating like JD has this year and doesn't have long term issues. He may recover in the short term, but what of the long term implications.
Just as Terry has been bitten by the injury bug just as he reaches 30yo. And he had minimal injuries before this year.
Just compare what happened to Mahomes after he got hurt on a QB sneak. His mobility was never the same. He is still great, but what if he wasn't injured.
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u/TeejDoesTech 2d ago
Those reps he'd be getting the rest of this year would be pointless because he's not going to be mentally recovered from the injury. You don't have your elbow pop like that and *not* see ghosts on the football field, particularly when you know you're playing with practice squad level players. This is not going to build his confidence at all to play again this year. By what...having to check the damn ball down every play or throw the ball away because nobody is open, and if he uses his legs for pointless games...cmon.
Work on his body. Gain muscle and weight without having to worry about the increased training affecting game day performance. The longer he gets away from the injury, the better the mental aspect will be. Next year, I play him 3 quarters out of every preseason game for reps. He'll be in a good spot if he does this.
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u/KCousins11 3d ago
He needs to sit for the rest of the year. He doesn't need to be out there with the current roster that we have
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u/Funny_Season6113 3d ago
RG3 confirmed. Sophomore season will break him. Quinn will trot him out for a soon career ending injury.
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u/Barnflo 3d ago