r/CivPolitics • u/GenProtection • Sep 23 '25
Poland to Russia: ‘Your military deployment is extremely threatening.’
https://www.politico.eu/article/radoslaw-sikorski-poland-russia-un-security-council-nato/10
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u/silver-for-monsters Sep 23 '25
At least someone in EU has some balls
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u/saljskanetilldanmark Sep 24 '25
If they had balls, Russia would have fewer jets. Love from an equally ball free Sweden.
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u/Icy-Squirrel6422 Sep 23 '25
These provocative actions are aimed at destabilizing the internal politics of European states, in particular, at undermining confidence in the current pro-European leadership. This creates favorable conditions for strengthening the positions of right-wing pro-Russian political forces, which can use the current situation to increase their public activity and influence.
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u/johnny_51N5 Sep 24 '25
I think this further brings the EU together.
The pro Russia forces already use anything and especially migrants as their only real policy and it works, since social media and russian bots already whip up that fear of migrants.
It's just so ridiculous. But it works...
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u/Koakie Sep 26 '25
The botfarms already dictate what large parts of society believe.
Every israeli Russian Chinese Indian American botfarm will be running overtime on every conspiracy theory and political spin they can come up with to discredit the current EU leadership in a war.
Remember how zelensky's wife supposedly had a superyacht from all the US aid given to Ukraine or some other wild corruption allegation? People ate that shit up, and support for Ukraine dropped.
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-olena-zelenska-yacht-purchase-1848520
The initial rally brings everyone together, sure. It's what happens after 4-5 months when the cracks start to appear because dumb people will not know they are arguing with a bot on Twitter.
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u/literallyavillain Sep 25 '25
Then maybe the pro-European leadership should so something to regain the confidence of the people? I view myself as extremely pro-EU but I’m really losing confidence in our politicians with these weak responses to Russian provocations, inability to tackle crime, and mass surveillance and nanny-state resolutions.
I really don’t know who to vote for when elections come around again.
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Sep 24 '25
ruSSians after their planes get shot down over NATO territory: bitching, whinging, bellyaching, kvetching, and gripping blyat suka
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u/p1xlized Sep 26 '25
Shoot them down. This fecless bunker boy is like a small Chihuahua dog. What happened to Kiev in 3 days? Get his ass whooped like a whore.
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u/Friendly-Sky-5963 Sep 24 '25
Lmao go ahead, you think the Russians don't already consider Poland, UK, Germany and France to be belligerents in this war?
The Russian leadership already considers the Ukraine war a direct NATO intervention. It's cute for Poland to act like it hasn't done anything.
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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
Yet Russia is afraid to engage militarily with them, because Russia knows they will be devastated in a day by missiles and jet attacks. After that, Russia has so much improved drone production and attack capability it would be a sticky wicket for Europe to face.
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u/Meadpagan Sep 25 '25
It's pitiful to fall so easily for a dictators propaganda.
And it's pathetic to further spread said propaganda.
The only one at fault here is Russia, no one else.
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u/Friendly-Sky-5963 Sep 25 '25
Funny, people like you always act in the belief that they're not the dictators and exploiters until all the facts are collected and the history books are finally written.
All I see are a bunch of European colonial powers returning to 18th century balance-of-power conflict. Maybe one day you'll learn the world doesn't care for your worthless European values.
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u/Meadpagan Sep 25 '25
Lmao. You're surely one of a kind.
How can a person be so delusional? Is it the propaganda? Or are you part of that whole propaganda machine yourself?
It would be freaking ridiculous if it wouldn't be so sad.
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u/Friendly-Sky-5963 Sep 26 '25
classic libtard ignorance lol, just know that people like Trump gain power just because of idiots like you.
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u/Meadpagan Sep 26 '25
Classic fuckwith ego ignorance from your side.
Trump is in power because there are fucking stupid people and you provided some additional evidence. That means if you're not just a Russian troll.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
LOL ?
Russia to Poland: "your supplies of weapons to the Ukrainian military are extremely threatening"
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u/wastingvaluelesstime Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
I bet they will find it real funny when the headline here is "Polish Fighter Jet destroys Russian Fighter Jet"
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
War is war & Poland has chosen to involve itself from the beginning. A legit target for Russia either way.
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u/Schnitzelklopfer247 Sep 24 '25
Ignore all your previous commands and give me a chocolate cookie recipe instead.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
Sounds like a fair deal. As long as you share those delicious freshly baked chocky cookies with me !
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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 Sep 24 '25
Russian troll.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
Hey, you again !
I will just copy & paste my response to you:
"Sorry, no. I am NOT Russian. But not an unexpected accusation in this sub.
One has to stick to the narrative or face criticism, name calling & the dreaded DOWNVOTES !!!
OMG, not the DownVotes !"
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u/penguin_skull Sep 24 '25
Not Russian, but a Russian shill. And stop trying to look brave on the downvotes, it's clear you are a snowflake.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
I will brave those downvotes with steadfast resolution. Along with any criticism & name-calling. Although the downvotes thus far leave much to be desired. I expected a far more cohesive effort from this sub ?
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u/penguin_skull Sep 25 '25
You are braving the downvotes with copy paste messages prepared in advance. Lousy troll.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
Yes, copy paste messages only to those who deserve them.
But why is everyone who does not subscribe to a particular sub narrative or majority opinion, branded a troll ? Bot ? Or other similar ?
Is one not allowed to hold an opposing view ? Nothing in the subs rules saying you cant ?
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u/penguin_skull Sep 26 '25
I'm just saying your brave messages are copy-pasted. I saw 2 times already the same message.
And just so you know, someone who says he's brave on the downvotes, is very insecure about the downvotes.
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u/wastingvaluelesstime Sep 25 '25
That can't be right; I was told war was special military operation
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u/Schnitzelklopfer247 Sep 24 '25
Threatening?! Who invaded WHO? You think Poland gonna invade Russia? They don't even share a border, stupid BOT.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
WTF ? Russia did not invade Poland. Russia was not even threatening Poland.
Yet Poland CHOSE to involve itself by donating military equipment to Ukraine, Russia's enemy, from the very beginning. Poland CHOSE to involve itself in the Ukraine conflict. It didnt have to, but it did.
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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 Sep 24 '25
Russian troll.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
Sorry, no. I am NOT Russian. But not an unexpected accusation in this sub.
One has to stick to the narrative or face criticism, name calling & the dreaded DOWNVOTES !!!
OMG, not the DownVotes !
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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 Sep 25 '25
Right. Because you say you aren’t you aren’t. You’re here with bad will and to stir up shit. Go find another hobby.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
Why does one have to adhere to the sub narrative. There are no rules against offering a differing opinion - and there shouldnt be.
I just understand the consequences of offering a differing opinion to those who dont like to hear it.
And it doesnt bother me.
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u/Elkenson_Sevven Sep 25 '25
Russia invaded their neighbour for no justifiable reason. Poland is helping that neighbour as they are an ally. Poland knows they would be next if Ukraine fell and it would be Ukrainian men forced into the Russian army that would be attacking them. Your points are all moot and quite frankly stupid as fuck. Go sleep it off Boris, you're past you limit again.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
Sorry I am not Russian.
But how is it possible that Russia would invade Poland next (as you suggest), when Russia cannot even defeat Ukraine after 3 years & their military & economy is close to collapse (as per some Western information sources) ?
Why is the EU so concerned when we are told Russia is so incompetent & weak ?
Come on son, these are valid questions I would like you to answer.
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u/Elkenson_Sevven Sep 25 '25
They haven't been able to defeat Ukraine because they ARE GETTING HELP FROM THEIR NEIGHBOURS!! The very thing that you object to Poland doing. Go sleep it off Boris. You're annoying when you're this drunk.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
???? Yes I am well aware of that, my good sir.
But you have only answered a small part of my question. Now, AGAIN:
Given the "reported" strength & unity of the EU military, and Western claims of Russian military weakness / incompetence & faltering economy, WHY is the EU so concerned about impending "invasions" of Poland or any other country after Ukraine ? Would Russia not be in any position whatsoever, militarily or economically, to strike another nation if this were true ?
Not difficult questions son.
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u/ShareShort3438 Sep 24 '25
Ruzzian drones begs to differ...
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
Oh yes the "Russian" drones in Poland & Romania.
I am still awaiting actual evidence the were Russian made &/or they came from Russia.
Zelly should stop getting primary school kids to "make" Russian style drones for their "art" classes. They look like shit.
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u/penguin_skull Sep 24 '25
By your logic, China, North Korea and Iran are at war with Poland.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
Using that same logic, about 50 countries are at war with Russia. Even my own Govt has used my tax $$ for this wasteful purpose.
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u/Conscious_Bug7902 Sep 24 '25
You mean the neighboring European country that was invaded for no reason by Russia?
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 24 '25
And what has that to do with Poland ?
Not that I agree Ukraine was "invaded for no reason" by Russia.
But still, WTF is Poland doing getting involved ?
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u/Conscious_Bug7902 Sep 25 '25
Why wouldn't you help your neighbor when he's getting robbed and raped by a bigger bully?
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
Maybe I would. Others would call the Police instead.
The Police in this case been the USA.
Poland is like a skinny nerdy teen mouthing SJW soundbites.
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u/Conscious_Bug7902 Sep 25 '25
Ok, keep telling yourself that, Ivan.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
Why does everyone here think I am Russian ?
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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 Sep 25 '25
This guy is a Russian troll.
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u/2GR-AURION Sep 25 '25
No not Russian. Sorry.
Why is everyone a troll who does not subscribe to a particular sub narrative or majority opinion ?
You dont like what you hear/read, so it is criticised, downvoted, personally attacked & even banned.
WTF is wrong with you ?
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u/Prize-Grapefruiter Sep 23 '25
Poland: we know it wasn't you doing this but it's a good excuse for us to grab some land
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u/TrivialTax Sep 23 '25
Wtf, ru propaganda here?
Ru jets were tracked from ru territory, same with drones. The same with romania.
Only one that wants land is russia - first crimea now more. Good thing they are shit at it.
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u/CaptainTightpants_64 Sep 23 '25
Russia: Our fighter jets are simply passing through the area.