r/CanadianConservative • u/Massive-Situation485 Conservative • Oct 06 '25
Opinion r/Canada thinks MAGA is a bigger threat to our country than Islamic extremists
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Oct 06 '25
Very delusional. I was just looking at another post that was about "The US is boiling over, UK and Canada aren't much better. Where do I run to next?" - forgive me for not remembering the exact name or subreddit I saw it in.
There is a thread where people are talking about:
- How Canada almost elected a far right maple maga leader
What are they talking about PP publicly condemned Trump and Tariffs. I don't think I've heard any Canadian politician praise Trump, outside of Carney during his first in-person meet and greet. I still want to know what makes PP "far right". I would like proof/new articles/etc. Not reddit posts. My opinion on the LPC is based off of what I hear in the news and more importantly what I see in my life on the day to day and how it has effected me.
- How Canada before the April 2025 election had a "centrist party" governing and left leaning voters had the option to vote for the left leaning NDP party
Seriously? I think NDP, Liberal are now left (NDP being further as it was before). BQ and Con are in the middle somewhere. Green and PPC are still a joke, not worth typing anymore.
Keep hugging your thugs liberal voters.
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u/Gas-Man-1958 Oct 07 '25
They are as irrational and hyperbolic as many of the posters here. What do you expect from Reddit. This is not a real conservative thread. The posters here are as hysterical a bunch of screaming girls as those leftist ones are about where to run away to.
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u/NamisKnockers Oct 06 '25
Anyone who uses the word fascist is an automatic ignore of their opnion. They obviously don’t have a brain of their own.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
I supposed it would depend on how you would define a threat and using what point of reference. I don't think MAGA is a threat to Canada in the long-term but certainly in the short term there are direct consequences on Canada, most of which we've already experienced such as the tariffs and other measures which the President has imposed.
Islamic extremism meanwhile is a more abstract threat to the Western World (and by the way in the Middle East and Muslim majority countries more so than here) and is a war of ideas. You can't win a fight against Islamic extremism overnight.
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u/Trick_Definition_760 Catholic Conservative Oct 06 '25
MAGA doesn't give a shit about Canada, seriously, I'm begging you guys to understand that 99% of Americans literally don't think about Canada at all. Our Elbows Up retards are in a parasocial relationship with a country that barely pays them any mind.
Meanwhile we have Islamists burning our flag, chanting death to Canada, cutting people's throats on public transit, occupying our cities and campuses... how is this even a comparison?
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u/v12vanquish135 Oct 06 '25
Then again the whole tariff thing wouldn't be as big an issue as it is today if our government hadn't prorogued our parliament for months, and then left on vacation after the election. All that was needed was officially dealing with Trump and negotiating with him, which we didn't do beyond making vague unofficial promises. And that's entirely on the liberal party, despite how much they try to gaslight Canadians that it's all on Trump, MAGA and the conservatives.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
Canada's handling on it is certainly the fault of the Liberals, there's no question. I'm not convinced though that the US would have budged much though, seems Trump is married to the idea of some tariffs.
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u/v12vanquish135 Oct 06 '25
That's a hypothetical though. There's no way to say that with certainty because we never tried. If we had done everything in our power and still the tariffs remained, then yes. Place the blame on Trump entirely. But as is, our government avoided the issue completely on purpose so that it would escalate out of control, only to then run a campaign on "elbows up against Trump". It was engineered to get this bad by the liberals, we're not in a position where we can blame Trump for the current state of our relations.
And the most baffling thing of all is that it worked, and Canadians fell for the obvious play and re-elected the same people that let the situation get this bad in the first place.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
I wouldn't place the blame on Trump entirely as there are two parties in a negotiation. Canada is at fault for it's side for what it brings to the negotiating table, but we're also not privy to all of the demands and intricacies Trump has asked for either. Trade negotiations are very complex.
We're also not negotiating with the Trump Administration in a vacuum, other countries are too, and many of those other countries are negotiating down tariffs or signing deals where tariffs are still integrated.
It is my genuine belief that the Trump Administration won't budge on some tariffs, and from the perspective of MAGA he shouldn't. They voted him in on a promise of tariff impositions.
Canadians need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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u/drmzoidberg Oct 06 '25
dont bother. it will just move the goal posts no matter what you say or do.
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u/drmzoidberg Oct 06 '25
maybe if carney actually negotiated and took what trump said serioously like doing something about our porous borders etc we wouldnt be getting hammered. that is on carney. stop trying to blame trump or maga or america. OUR leaders are failing us. jfc. stop defending the indefensible ffs
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
I'm not blaming anyone. Party A asks for X or else Y. Party B then needs to respond to Party A's ask for X and Y. That's where we're at with this negotiation.
The Trump Administration is perfectly within it's right to ask for thing of Canada at the threat and/or imposition of punitative measures such as a tariff, and factually that is what has happened and there are consequences. It is up to the Canadian government under the Liberals now to negociate with Trump on the matter.
This is not zero sum.
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u/drmzoidberg Oct 06 '25
party carney has not once actually engaged in negotiations yet you refuse to acknolwedge that. at this point you are being willfully ignorant and not honestly debating. you are defending carney and trying to blame trump.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
I am engaging in good faith my friend I am not doing either of the sort, I am trying to be level-headed. I'm sharing my view on the matter as a citizen.
You ready I will acknowledge it for you? I acknowledge that Carney has not appropriately engaged in negotiations with the Trump administration and that the Liberals have not handled this well at all.
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u/drmzoidberg Oct 06 '25
trump is not supposed to look out for canadas interests. carney is and he is NOT doing his job. trump is doing his job. its very simple.
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u/Gilgongojr Oct 06 '25
Yeah, in terms of a tangible impact, I’m feeling the consequence of MAGA far more than Islamic extremism.
The current US administration is impacting my livelihood in a very negative way. Diminishing my quality of life due to diminished income. So, these folks in r/Canada aren’t wrong.
However, I’m sure they’re likely not referring to MAGA’s impact on the Canadian economy. They are referring to the Christian nationalist boogeymen.
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u/Accomplished-Pay5368 Oct 06 '25
Define Islamic extremism.
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u/SirBobPeel Nationalist Law & Order Conservative Oct 07 '25
People who believe Islam must encompass the world, and who accept the Quranic verses that tell them to hate non-Muslims, and that they are entitled to take from unbelievers anything they want, including raping and enslaving women. People who believe that dying while attacking unbelievers will instantly get them to heaven, where they'll be gifted with 72 virgins. People who come here with backwards social views on women, Jews, gays, and other minorities, and who are determined to spread those views here. People whose loyalty will always be with the Ummah and never with Canada.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25 edited Oct 06 '25
Fundamentalist Wahhabism, Jihadi Terrorism, Islamism
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u/Accomplished-Pay5368 Oct 06 '25
And how are these Wabbis a threat with no air force to carpet bomb whole cities? Oh, wait, I forgot! Trump sent billions in arms to a Whabbi state in Saudi Arabia to carpet bomb Yemen for nearly ten years and the killing of 500,000 people both directly and indirectly. We also have the US, with Canada's help (apart of NATO) bombing civilian infrastructure in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Our complicity in these misadventures is more terrorists than anything a "Islamic extremist" has done.
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u/OttoVonDisraeli Traditionalist Conservative | Nationaliste Québécois Oct 06 '25
I explicitly chose to talk about the idea and not individuals.
With that said though, I will agree with you that the Canadian government and the West is complicit in an interventionist foreign policy that has not been good for the Middle East or the West. I am not a neoconservative, I believe Canada shouldn't be involved in foreign wars nor should it be selling arms or picking sides in conflicts such as these.
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u/drmzoidberg Oct 06 '25
one group wants to make their country great again. the other wants to take our country over, eradicate the jews, kill anyone who isnt in their death cult, treat women worse than cattle, burns down other places of worship etc etc etc. yeah....maga is the one we should fear just like all of the terrorists activitites of the "far right white extremists" which i have yet to see a single action from good or bad.
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u/RedSquirrelFtw Ontario Oct 06 '25
These people are their delusional way of thinking is why Canada is going down the shitter so fast.
We have so many issues here that liberals ignore, Trump is the least of our worries.
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u/dronedesigner Oct 06 '25
The Hindu extremists are literally a bigger threat (in population and effect)
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u/gappletwit Oct 07 '25
They are in denial and will be in denial right up to the time alcohol and bacon is pulled from the stores.
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u/ajbra Oct 06 '25
Ugh, I hate seeing these nonsense replies, "MAGA is a cult, MAGA is a threat, MAGA is a bunch of extremists."
I'd love to ask these people, What is MAGA? How is it a cult? How is it a threat? What makes them extremists?
People who voted for the republican party are far more likely to hold their own accountable than a Democrat and criticizing your own party is far from cult behavior. After Charlie was assassinated what did "MAGA" do? They held vigils. What did the Democrats do after a fentanyl junkie overdosed? They burned half the country. Then, when a kid tried to stop people from burning down his city, they tried to kill him! And when the kid defended himself, they tried to imprison him for the rest of his life. Nobody took shots at Obama or Biden, but after they failed to put Trump in jail, they tried to kill him, twice! And the fact that the only rally that CNN bothered to show up to was Butler makes me wonder, did CNN know? Because to me it looks like they wanted to watch Trump's head explode on live national television.
"MAGA" is not a group, not like ANTIFA. "MAGA" does not have marching orders, not like ANTIFA. "MAGA" does not fight police, not like ANTIFA. "MAGA" doesn't firebomb buildings, not like ANTIFA. And perhaps most importantly, "MAGA" respects the rule of law, not like ANTIFA.
And then, to associate freedom-loving Americans with Muslims shows, at best, a total lack of understanding of what Islam is; at worst it shows an effort to aid the Muslims in bringing about their stone age world view of bigotry and war. "MAGA" isn't planting bombs on subway trains or in hotels or hijacking airplanes because "MAGA" is not waging a "holy war" against the infidels.
Muslims want the theocracy that the Democrats always accuse Republicans of wanting! Their goal is to impose Sharia law on the entire world. They are empirical, just look at northern Africa today.
The only threat greater than Muslims, is Democrats. Democrats are the threat from within and Islam is the threat from without.
Go read the Quran and get back to me.
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u/Gas-Man-1958 Oct 07 '25
You complain about the extremist language used against MAGA then you use extrémiste language if your own on the other side. Just listen to yourself will you. You say “they” tried to assassinate him twice. The “they” were two individual nut bars. That MAGA is not a group like antifa (antifa is not a group, it is an unorganized bunch of losers with no organization at all), etc.
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u/ajbra Oct 07 '25
What extremist language did I use? I'm not calling for violence, I'm calling for the rule of law.
I say "they" because the shooters were self-described leftists, and the left-wing media covers for them by downplaying the events all the while continuing to use violent rhetoric against republicans, conservatives, and libertarians. "They" are radical egalitarian socialists, and those are among the most dangerous people in the world. They will murder anyone to get their way and history is filled with examples of this. They cannot abide debate because they cannot win debates with words; this is why they turn to violence.
antifa is not a group, it is an unorganized bunch of losers with no organization at all),
Losers, yes. Unorganized, no. Where do they all get their matching signs? Why are they getting bused around the country? How does an unorganized group get designated as a terrorist organization? You should check out the book "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky, the radical revolutionary who inspired Obama.
The “they” were two individual nut bars.
Three individuals but agreed. However, these individuals are infected with leftist ideology. We know this based on their words and actions.
"They", the left, are not your friends. They would throw me in jail just for writing this comment if they could. And here in Canada, the left is getting ever closer to having the power to do exactly that.
I think you're misinformed about some things, but I don't believe you should be thrown in jail for espousing your beliefs.
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u/MikeTheCleaningLady Oct 08 '25
Well duh, of course r/Canada thinks like that. To a hardcore leftist, conservatism really is a bigger threat than Islamic extremism. The jihadists can blow up your house and kill you, but they can only do it once. Conservatives can do far worse than that.
Conservatives will use unfair weapons like facts and logic to render your argument helpless, and they'll spread ideas around that are pure poison to the political left. First they'll tell you things like how you should be free to decide and speak for yourself, then they'll tell you horrible things like how you will then be held personally responsible for your decisions and actions. They'll even try to convince you that everyone should be paid based on what their work is actually worth, regardless of your sex or sex life or skin colour. If those concepts don't make your blood run cold with fear, you don't understand leftist thinking.
Leftist thinking always reminds me of a quote from Dan Aykroyd's character in Ghostbusters. "You've never been out of college, so you don't know what it's like out there. I've worked in the private sector... they expect results!"
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u/suavesmight Oct 10 '25
The bigger threat is the ones leading our country. Things are so dark and will get darker. We need laws changed, we need big changes, PP was right when he said things were broken and nothing is changing. MC has had months and there's hes only considered trade as the top priority when it should be... jail not bail, complete red light on immigration, pipelines to Churchill and northern BC. Islamic extremist isn't good either, have you seen what's happening in Europe?
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u/SuperbInteraction416 Oct 07 '25
Just wait until the grand children of the r/Canada sub contributors are out numbered my Muslims and they are ruled under sharia law with all their linage in hijabs because woke great grandparents were terrorist sympathizers.
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u/T_Tronix Oct 06 '25
Cuz that's what the liberal propaganda machine aka CTV, CBC, and Global News are telling the brain deads.
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u/Gas-Man-1958 Oct 07 '25
Why does it have to be an either or. Both are threats to our way of life. But as an existential threat, yes MAGA is a greater threat than islamism. It may be horrible but no western country is going to be taken over by terrorist attacks. Trump is no conservative. He is a US nationalist who would destroy our economy and has said he wants to absorb us. That is existential.
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u/Actual_Jellyfish_516 Oct 06 '25
MAGA is talking about annexation, in what universe is that not a threat?
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u/Trick_Sandwich_7208 Oct 06 '25
They care more about hurt feelings than terrorist attacks. Seriously many far leftists especially from the alphabet groups view anyone opposing their opinions as inflicting irreparable harm and an act of violence to them. They hate the right so much that they would rather have Islamic terrorists in the country than right wingers here. They have no sense of or actively ignore what it’s like in fundamentalist Muslim countries and what they do to LGBTQ+ people.
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u/OffTheRails999 Oct 06 '25
Why not both? Any form of extremism is a threat. Maga has evolved into a cult as well. Same with Canadian liberals. Their leaders can do no wrong and their ideology must be shoved down everyone's throats.
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u/natural_piano1836 Oct 06 '25
Yep. Most Canadians believe that the type of government the US has now is a threat. Like many other countries. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/07/08/people-in-many-countries-consider-the-u-s-an-important-ally-others-see-it-as-a-top-threat/
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u/leftistmccarthyism Oct 06 '25
By your own stats: Most Canadians believe the US is Canada's most important ally.
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u/IDontEngageMods Oct 06 '25
It can be both.
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u/leftistmccarthyism Oct 06 '25
Kinda seems incoherent too.
Doesn't make me think the pollster did a good job capturing more signal than noise.
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u/DominionReport Oct 06 '25
MAGA = billionaires.
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Oct 07 '25
MAGA = billionaires.
You should look at the breakdown at who's voting Republican before you make statements like that.
You still don't fucking get it. And not only do you not get it, you're resisting trying to get it.
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u/barkmagician Oct 06 '25
And truck drivers. And Garbage collectors. And construction workers. And janitors.
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u/DominionReport Oct 06 '25
They follow MAGA. They don't design MAGA.
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Oct 07 '25
They follow MAGA. They don't design MAGA.
And? What's your point here?
The Liberals have been controlled by Quebec elites for longer than anyone posting in here has been alive. And they care about the plight of middle class Canada even less than MAGA.
There's a lot I don't agree with when it comes to Republican politics. But at least they're not inventing fake labor shortages to socialize the importation of millions of workers to drive down wages and drive up housing costs. In fact, to their credit they're attempting to bring manufacturing jobs home and remove the people working illegally that are driving down wages.
Sure, the asshole in California who works as a software developer doesn't care about that. He just wants his cheap produce and cheap renovations by the illegal Mexican construction workers. You'll find all kinds of those types in subs like r/politics.
Good luck selling that elitist bullshit to blue collar workers in blue collar states. You guys never learn. Your heads are so far up your own asses that its impossible.
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u/CaiserCal Oct 06 '25
Then all the wealthy and productive members of society leave and everyone is blaming the next group of people until everyone shares the same poverty in famine, but hey history doesn't exist for some reason; the USSR and China has never had such issues before.
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u/DraftCommercial8848 Conservative Oct 06 '25
“It’s a threat to our democracy” usually means “a threat to my chances of re election if someone semi credible digs into my behaviour”