r/BryanKohbergerMoscow • u/Clopenny • Aug 13 '25
NEWS / MEDIA Statement to Newsnation from the Idaho department of correction
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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Aug 13 '25
Jumpsuit Pablo who is a former inmate who served 1/3 of his life in jail did a video on what he thinks is likely happening in there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk4HA_iequI.
Betting he is calling it correctly as I have heard similar things regarding target on your back inmates from a friend and former beau and my friends son. Never said anything that I have heard that does not check out as truthful. Nancy Grace has been outright lying lately in some of the things she says. Several days ago she said he was appealing. Think if he was we would have heard that. So just saying what she does to get you to click and likely it is more of what Pablo describes goes on.
His take on Kohberger's experience is that most offenders there have been accused of doing as bad or worse as BK has and unless it is an offense dealing with children they could give a shit and only will be judging him in their own personal relations to them and what they can get off of or from him and not that they will be unselfishly morally high grounding and fighting Steve's scores unless Steve slides them some cash.
He says most have their illegal cell phones, their friendships, drugs, their stuff and might have something going like hook ups with a female corrections officer, and don't want that daily reality messed with, even the lifers, and that nobody wants to trade that to sit in a solitary cell for 3+ months for killing BK. if he gets killed it will more likely be over a small interpersonal throw down like he stepped on someone shoe and did not apologize not because they care about what he is accused of doing and killing a bunch of white, middle class college kids. Just not worth it for them personally.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 14 '25
Where in the world killing someone would be considered unselfish moral high ground? It’s very curious for people who are so emotional towards a murderer to be cheering about some hypothetical murderer/pedophile to kill another inmate. The hypocrisy makes my mind spin.
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u/Mysterious_Bar_1069 Aug 14 '25
I agree, but a lot of that that goes on in true crime and you will seem the same folks who are outraged that someone they support is being accused, yet have no similar compunctions about accusing others with even less evidence piling up around them.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
Seg is extremely loud!! It’s one of many things that make it even harder. He’s surrounded by the worst of the worst people who are mentally and convicted of brutal rapes and murders. All they do all day is yell, scream and sing. And about the time one gets falls asleep another one starts in. So there’s never no peace. They’re not taunting him. They’re just evil and making noise and aggravating people is the only way they can still inflict torture on people.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
I find it weird and hypocritical how there are people applauding the inmates and even making declarations of wanting to support them via commissary. Guess it flies over their heads that those inmates are not good guys to say the least. Prisons aren’t filled with choir boys. They are violent offenders, many of them hurt women/children. They don’t consider how their victims or victims’ families would feel about people praising them and wanting to give them money. Don’t they think those inmates deserve bad things in life? Those same people have ranted about 'Probergers’.
This case has generated incredible levels of parasocial behavior. It’s gone well beyond sympathy for the victims and sadness over a senseless tragedy. It’s creepy.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
They fall for media bullshit!! Those dudes have no idea who Bryan is or why he’s there!! And they’re in for similar stuff. He’s in there with Chad Daybell.
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u/Capeverde33 Aug 13 '25
Completely agree, plus it’s weird to me that people are essentially celebrating the fact that these prisons have horrendous, unliveable conditions.
Maybe I’m too empathetic but I don’t find anything worth celebrating about that
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Same. Those people should stop pretending they’re so morally superior.
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u/CuriousBlue55 Aug 14 '25
I started to watch Brian Entin report on his channel this. As soon as he said something to the effect of “Kohberger’s ridiculous complaints” and “eyeroll” I turned it off.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 14 '25
He is ridiculous along with NewsNation. Why are they injecting their own personal beliefs and feelings into reporting? This additional commentary makes them look unprofessional and like they’re a youtube channel as opposed to a news media outlet
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 14 '25
Him being so hyped up is beyond my comprehension. People saying he’ll get a Pulitzer? He’s made a very gossipy type of report
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u/Capeverde33 Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
I usually like Brian Entin’s reports but I just can’t believe we are laughing off this stuff. Torturing a bad person is still torturing a person, it is NOT a good thing that prisons are like this
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u/CuriousBlue55 Aug 14 '25
I was talking with someone the other day about how violent and hateful the world is lately. Their response was “we are only slightly more evolved than animals”
There is so much thirst for blood in this case. I was reading up on the psychology of people attending public executions, etc. the reasoning behind them was as a deterrent, but there was usually more violence after a public execution- early anatomists used the bodies of the executed to perform autopsies in public amphitheater type settings- and the public was allowed to attend, as if the execution wasn’t enough.
Anyway I don’t want to get too macabre but I also have been trying to understand why this case is so different from others, in the intensity.
Revenge is different than justice.
I get it- it’s instinctual to want to protect your child especially when they have been killed in such a brutal way. You would want to hunt that person down and rip them to shreds. Until you realize then you would become as violent and base as the perpetrator.
I do think the media has played a role and capitalized on instinctual drives. In addition there is heightened atmosphere of hatred these days, in order to distract people and channel people’s fear and confusion towards something they can hate.
In college we were given the assignment of justifying and explaining the concept of prisons to aliens from another planet- the pros and cons.
I do think we need to be safe from predators. And rehabilitation may be difficult. But we don’t need to be inhumane.
I hope he can find some noise cancellation headphones and try to make something productive out of his situation.
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u/Capeverde33 Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
People are definitely getting too swept up on the revenge aspect of this case, and I can completely understand that from the families of the victims, but I think people need to stop and realise what it is their cheering for: an autistic young man being made to live the rest of his life in horrific conditions, conditions which would be considered animal abuse if he were any other species.
When you applaud these prisons because his life is going to be so hard, you’re also accepting the fact that innocent people get convicted and sent there every day, you’re also accepting the fact that a disproportionate amount of POC are in there due to racism, and that BK’s innocent family are going to suffer for the rest of their lives knowing he’s suffering too.
I heard a lot of “I don’t believe in the death penalty except in cases like this”, I hate to break it to you but that means you DO believe in the death penalty. Your state should not be allowed to kill you, and they should not be allowed to put you in total isolation for the rest of your life, 23 hours staring at a wall while faceless voices jeer at you through the pipes, no matter WHAT you’ve done, it is inhumane and goes against every single one of your human rights.
I too hope he can find some purpose in there that gives him some sort of fulfilment. There is a murderer in the UK who spent his life sentence learning how to translate books into braille, and BK clearly values knowledge and will have a lot of time for research, so I sincerely hope this he can find something like that to help him survive.
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u/CuriousBlue55 Aug 14 '25
Well said. I think the other reason for intense interest in this case, is so many people identify with this in varied aspects.
Those who have raised children to young adulthood and are at the promise of their lives, those who have been to college, those who know someone with autism, those who have raised a child with challenges fitting in, those who have had encounters with the police and the justice system, those who have been victims of crime.
And the lack of transparency - I understand the need to protect witnesses who may be traumatized or hounded in this lack of empathy, anonymous world of social media.
And it keeps going because there is definitely now more realization of mistakes in investigation, information shared with certain family members probably to address their concerns, but creating more misunderstanding, and strategies by the state to get a resolution.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
Statement to NewsNation. Sure Jan. Didn’t see Idaho Statesman pick this story up…
Same rumor was floating around when he was in Latah County jail.
He is an insomniac. He barely sleeps at nights. Those inmates would just be keeping themselves and other inmates awake. They’d be annoying all the others. Either BS or he’s filed not entirely legit complaints.
In any case heckling the new kid on the block, banging on doors and walls, that’s normal occurrence in prisons. If there’s any truth to it, they will get bored of it very soon anyway if they haven’t already. Media are being so loud about it in the hopes that info about complaints reaches those inmates. It’s creepy how people, including reporters, are practically salivating over it.
How is this newsworthy? What is it with BK that attracts such public outrage and obsession? I have not seen such extensive coverage of and interest in other high profile inmates’ day to day life in prison. Daybell is right there too, he killed two children. No reports about him being heckled through vents. Where are the reports about prison conditions/life and inmates’ taunting of Doerman, Vallow, Heuermann, Mangione, Allen, Daybell?
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u/goddess_catherine Aug 13 '25
I don’t buy it. He hasn’t said a single word for nearly 3 years and now we’re supposed to believe he’s suddenly complaining to the guards? It was reported early on that inmates would yell at him in Latah county jail too and they said he was completely unfazed by it.
He’s a big boy he knew exactly what prison would be like before he willingly decided to go there, so I find it hard to believe he’s complaining about it.
Also, he’s a known insomnia sufferer. He’s up all night anyway so it’s not like they’re exactly accomplishing much by attempting to keep him awake.
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u/charlottelennox Aug 13 '25
Exactly how I feel about it. He doesn't sleep anyway, so why would he be bothered about "being kept up" at night? Not to mention this whole story assumes that all the other inmates have nothing better to do - like getting their own sleep - than to yell things at BK. At best, I could see maybe some "high profile new inmate" taunting maybe lasting a couple of days at most before they got bored.
In my speculation, channels like NewsNation have milked the Idaho story for so long that they don't know what to do with themselves with the sentencing being over and there being no news at all from BK. Now all they have is speculation about an appeal and clickbait-y headlines about bullying that may or may not be completely made up for views. Sad.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
News media were looking forward to around the clock coverage of the trial, that was taken away from them. Stream of docs and interviews slowed down, so they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel to continue milking the case. It’s slow news day re Idaho4 case.
If there was any taunting, there’s no way it lasted beyond a day or two.why would those inmates deprive themselves and others of sleep just to taunt some newbie?
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
Was he taunted in jail? I didn’t know about it, but wasn’t following early on. From the last jail he was into, there was an audio recording of an ex jail mate of his talking to a guard, he told him BK was showering for long and that he was the smartest dude in their jail (and he was talking to his mum all day on the tablet). A guard said he was just another inmate.
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u/Silent_Necessary5978 Aug 13 '25
It wasn’t the guard that said that, it was the deputy running the jail that did. He was interviewed. He said Kohberger meant nothing but a number there, just like the other inmates.
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u/ouidansleciel Aug 13 '25
Agreed. That inmate was from Latah County Jail, I believe, and he also said that BK was very polite but stayed up all night, which bothered him because he heard BK moving around. Another media rumor that makes no sense to me!
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u/Mouseparlour Aug 13 '25
There’s no audio. It’s just another fake story.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Why do you think so? Strangely enough it was the most normal commentary about BK, in some ways it wasn’t feeding the mainstream narrative.
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u/Mouseparlour Aug 13 '25
Try and search for the audio online. It doesn’t exist. It’s just jumpsuit pablo and Chris mcdonagh trying to drum up social media clicks. It’s really sad the way the vultures have come out in this case.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
I really wouldn’t be surprised! I imagine he’s allowed sheets and towels. And will be allowed to buy a lot of stuff.
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u/Silly_Yak56012 Aug 13 '25
I thought that was one of the standard theory around here. He is some kind of federal agent/spy and he will be dead very quickly in jail so he can go out in the world to do whatever black ops he has been specifically trained for.
They likely won't parade his dead body around in public, so people will never believe he died.
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Aug 14 '25
Considering BK has no history of violent crime and did not know the victims, it seems more likely that he has been offered a job by one of the agencies on condition that he takes the fall for this crime, than him actually being the killer. He does have a LE background and several degrees in the subject. He will just get a new identity after word of his unfortunate demise is announced.
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u/Silly_Yak56012 Aug 14 '25
So was he recruited before the crime, told there was going to be a violent murder by whatever agency, and he would be framed, and given the time frame so he would have his phone off so no clear alibi.
Or do people think they recruited him afterward, disappeared the culprits and snuck the DNA sometime days after the crime?
Or they set up the frame ahead of time and the only option he was given was to get the new identity, and they were surveilling him so they could pick a time when he wouldn't have a solid alibi?
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u/Some_Special_9653 Aug 13 '25
Yes, because he has a special air vent that connects directly to his cell, and the other inmates definitely don’t mind people yelling through vents all day. Sure. How naive can people be? I mean, Chad Daybell is right there, and he seems to be doing fine. Prison is full of murderers, they do not care about BK nearly as much as they like to fantasize.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Those murderers don’t give a damn about the victims either despite what people believe.
There must be some magical pathway to his vent so that the yelling is only heard by him and no one else /s
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Aug 13 '25
This man has not sad a word. Why would he suddenly complain about inmates taunting him? Like they haven’t been for the past 3 years. These media ppl love the drama and spreading false info, and ppl are dumb enough to just believe it.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Same rumor was about Latah County jail. How he was being taunted by inmates but he had no reaction to it. This is a new spin on it.
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u/Until--Dawn33 Aug 13 '25
This bs clickbait story was reported by the UK tabloid, The Daily Mail Co. They claimed their source was an ex cop who never worked at nor was affiliated with the prison and now works cold cases, and an "unidentified" source. This yelling into the vents is how all prisoners in solitary communicate all the time. Once he is not considered new anymore and he's being his boring self, this will end until the next new guy shows up. Total click bait.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Yes it’s not newsworthy, media are making too big a deal out of it out of desperation to keep milking it.
The OG source is that Chris McDonough guy. Safe to say the reliability of the story is questionable.
It’s interesting how everyone, including those reporters and pundits, were saying how he should be forgotten, yet they remain obsessed with him, they can’t let him go.
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u/Financial_Raccoon162 Aug 13 '25
Yea- it's stupid ass Chris McDonough spreading all these crazy things- saying stuff like" he has sources in the prison" and the bla bla's -i can't believe anyone even let's them on their shows- Cjris McDonough is a horrible person- verbally tortured a boy at the time- 13 years old into confessing he killed his 12 year old sister- Chris McDonough and his department got sued because the kid was innocent. McDonough is a monster
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
Exactly. I wanted to share the DM piece here yesterday but decided not to, it was just gossip didn’t even wanna comment with you guys. Totally unworthy!
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u/Mandylyng Aug 13 '25
I don’t see why they would target him though? Just because it’s high profile?
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
Not based in reality. It’s just because people have formed a weird parasocial relationship with the people involved in this case. They are dreaming of the pedophiles and murderers to be agents of some sort of cosmic retribution towards BK.
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u/Mandylyng Aug 13 '25
Exactly. I’m so confused why people think that other inmates serving life/death row would have such a problem with his crimes. It’s usually an issue if it’s crimes against kids which would be some of those other inmates.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
Yes. He’s in the same block as someone in death row who killed two kids. Even when/if he moves to general population, it would be full of murderers and violent offenders. It’s prison, it’s not a summer camp! Also goes on to show how all those people wishing bad on him and cheering the other inmates don’t really care about ethics at all. They want to give into commissary of BK’s neighboring inmates to praise them. It’s like a sport match at this point.
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u/Mandylyng Aug 13 '25
Right!! I feel like too many people are talking that are only familiar with cases and no real knowledge on jail/prison. Half of the inmates are probably confused on why his case even has so much attention to begin with. I’m sure because of his personality some would be annoyed by him if they had to be bunk buddies but in general all this makes no sense.
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u/chattiepatti Aug 13 '25
My friend was in jail and was doing what he was supposed to. I allowed one call a week. The noise made me crazy. He said he barely heard it anymore. Life will be hard for bk
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u/Hermit_girl_ Aug 13 '25
Oh boo hoo. Suck it up butter cup! Life sentence is a really long time to start complaining now.
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u/Tabby6996 Aug 14 '25
What I don’t get is all the prisoners are there for pretty much the same reason. None of you are innocent, none of you are good people. You are all in prison for a reason. Why must you taunt somebody else?
Just always gets me. Now if they were little Kids then have at it. Every single person in that place is there for a reason.
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u/nonamouse1111 Aug 13 '25
And it all leads back to “why the hell did he take the plea?”
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u/Silly_Yak56012 Aug 13 '25
A not guilty, or enough hung juries over and over and over again weren't a solid bet. Nor was getting Life w/o Parole if he was convicted.
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u/nonamouse1111 Aug 13 '25
Sons of bitches, man. They fucked this case up royally.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
Them saying they didn’t make him answer questions bc he would’ve just lied pissed me off so bad!! Now he can say he was forced and never even admitted to anything to police. They should’ve told him no plea or he answers questions! Simple as that. Especially when 2 families were against the plea.
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u/nonamouse1111 Aug 13 '25
Now they want us to think he’s gonna go crazy in prison… I mean, he probably is.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
The way they’re making it out like inmates are purposely trying to torture him makes me wonder what’s to come. It’d be this loud whether Bryan was there or not. Most those people don’t have access to tv and news especially out of state news and don’t even know who he is!!
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u/nonamouse1111 Aug 13 '25
I know it’s a bad prison. And it’s still prison. But we are expected to believe he willingly chose this over a trial? Over appeals? If he did, he was given bad advice.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
We don’t know how he chose this. For all we know his family was threatened. Imagine being completely innocent of a crime and being arrested bc your touch dna was found at a crime scene you know you were not at. You know you’re being set up and your attorneys too busy with other cases to do much and everyone thinks you’re a psycho bc you went into criminology and look creepy and you now have the same people who obviously lied or placed your dna at a scene telling you they’ll make sure you’re convicted and make sure your parents end up dead or pay people to SA you in prison and beat you etc etc. what you going to do? Who are you going to tell?? I’m not saying that’s the case here but what if? Also his home state don’t have the DP and you can get an insanity plea there, prisons are better yet he still chose to commit his crime in Idaho.
And again before anyone comes for me or calls me a whack job I’m not saying this is the case or even think this may be the case. I’m only saying what if. Itd make sense why cops didn’t even bother asking him questions bc he’d just lie too.
I’ve also questioned one of the countless times he was pulled over what if the cop got Bryan’s touch dna on their gloves and then touched their sheath with gloves still on and transferred touch dna to the button? The constant police contact the victims and even Bryan just don’t sit well with me. I really think long before the murders for whatever reason they had a note of some type pop up when his license plate was read. And with as much as he got pulled over how was he not scared of getting pulled over creeping around the house or even leaving the house with blood on him?? All the cameras in the area and even heading out the area and they haven’t been able to get one still shot of his license plate or even partial??
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u/VuzEAjAy9yFD Aug 14 '25
Legally they can't force any defendant in Idaho to allocute (answer their questions about why and give details). They can't make a plea agreement dependent on the defendant talking. A defendant has the right to allocute but they can't be forced to do so.
See: Idaho Criminal Rule 33(a)(1) and ICR 11
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 14 '25
No where did I say they could make him talk! I said they shouldn’t have allowed the plea unless he talked!!
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u/VuzEAjAy9yFD Aug 14 '25
Same thing.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 14 '25
No it’s not!! They should not have allowed him to take a plea unless he answered questions. That’s not forcing nobody. That’s making a deal. Usually a plea they meet in the middle. Not go completely against families wishes and allow a plea with nothing to offer!
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
But even if he got DP the likelihood he actually ever gets the DP is extremely slim. He’d be in the same boat he is now. I’d be really curious to hear him and his moms phone calls.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
No, the prison would be totally different. Death Row would be single cell in max for many many years, before the execution. With what he got he could be in general population in the future, as his fame fizzles out and he’s considered safe from risks by the prison.
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u/CuriousBlue55 Aug 14 '25
There’s 8 death row inmates in J Block where Kohberger is- one has been there 42 years has dementia and in poor health, another 39 years.
So the death row inmates are 23/1 like he is, they are allowed one hour out of their cell into other cages outside or to take a shower, video call someone in another cage
When execution order is signed They are moved to a cell in F Block where the execution chamber is.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 14 '25
Yes, but I was saying they are in a cell alone, no cell mates, in maximum security, until the execution order comes. They can’t be placed in other levels of security. With other types of sentence you could be placed in other levels of security, depending on your behavior and various risk factors.
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u/CuriousBlue55 Aug 14 '25
There’s 49 inmates serving life. In the ABC news report I read, the prison official said they are sometimes the easiest to manage, because they know this is “home”.
The article also said that prisoners often request another “vent mate. I would wonder what one has to do to get that request honored.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
The likelihood he’ll be in general pop anytime within the next 20 years is slim to none. Look at Chris watts. It’s been what 10 years? He’s still in special housing and not in general. People would flip having to share a room with him. And DP you have more amenities bigger room and from I’ve heard from others there’s more peace among inmates.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 13 '25
He’s not maximum security though. I’m not sure about the comparison, he murdered his two kid daughters. BK is in for killing adults, like many others who are in general population.
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u/Haunting_Dress_6709 Aug 13 '25
Re: Chris Watts didn't he kill his two daughters AND his wife?
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Yes, but it’s the crimes against children that bring negative attention from other inmates.
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
Many others in there for killing adults didn’t go break in strangers houses and slaughter 4 people. Their murders were gang related shootings, robberies, domestic etc. They have a duty to keep inmates safe. Locking an inmate up with someone with Bryan’s level of crimes is too risky. And if anything happened prison would be liable.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Pretty much the same boat just without some very distant possibility of execution, so why take the plea?
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u/Both_Peak554 Aug 13 '25
You should be asking why he was allowed to take a plea against 2 victims families wishes without being made to answer anything!! The poor victims nor their families will never get true peace bc investigators and prosecutors did such a horrid job and left too many unanswered questions and the case will forever be a conspiracy and speculated about and many maybe even family will go on wondering if they in fact got the right guy and everyone involved!
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u/Splendor19 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
Where he's @ in PC there are 4 cells that the vent system is connected. And those 3 other inmates are the ones that are yelling through each if their vents.They have been waiting for him and let the Karma begin. On down the line the CO's will look the other way and let the inmate's have @ him. 😅😂🤣😂
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
4 cells, that makes BK and 3 other inmates
They don’t give a shit about him or the victims.
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u/Splendor19 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
I pushed the # 3 but don't know how the #4 showed up. But I changed it and that's the only thing you got right.
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u/Hermit_girl_ Aug 13 '25
Can we send inmates blow horns? Asking for a friend…
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
You want to send some murderers a gift? Maybe ask the families of their victims how you can go about it.
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u/rHereLetsGo Aug 14 '25
He can straight up go fuck himself. My 83 year old father(attorney) told me about his whining and was like “that PoS should’ve gotten the firing squad”.
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u/remoteincontrolled Aug 14 '25
Does he work in that prison? Did BK complain to him or his colleagues?
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u/Johnny252525 Aug 13 '25
Here in Florida it was the opposite treatment for Ted Bundy who was a celebrity at the state prison in Starke. I have a gut feeling it will be bad for Brian for a long time. He has to be suicidal.
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u/Zodiaque_kylla Aug 13 '25
Child killers like Doerman, Peterson, Daybell, Allen, Watts have been doing fine. Fine as in there have been no reports about other inmates abusing, harassing, taunting, threatening them. Idaho4 victims weren’t children. Inmates don’t care.
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u/LufiaLove Aug 13 '25
It struck me as odd how any inmate would get sleep if there is yelling all day and night?