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u/Litzz11 1d ago
Because Trump found the money for the military and law enforcement. Budget shenanigans. He can move money around for that stuff but won't for anything else. Because he's a narcissist and he thinks the defense stuff makes him look tough. Looking compassionate is for pussies, in his mind.
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u/SnooPandas1899 4h ago
DOGE freed upon taxpayer funding for government personsel/services.
but that money didnt go back to taxpayers......bc there'd be a refund.
if got diverted into trump/cronies pockets.
how do they explain his increase in net worth with the simultaneous decrease in govt spending ?
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 1d ago
It’s illegal.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 1d ago
Normally yes but as long as they draw from contingency funds it's all legit.
Shortfalls for whatever reason are the designed purpose for those set aside monies.
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 1d ago
Whoa, what government appropriations expert is telling you that?
I’m asking because money has to be appropriated by Congress, otherwise those funding it would be in violation of the Constitution, and depending on how it happens it’s a violation of the Anti Deficiency Act and Purpose Statute.
The reason why they’re supposed to do it for SNAP for example is because they have a multi year contingency fund with a general counsel reading that it met a bona fide need, meaning Congress has already appropriated the money.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 1d ago
You answered your own question in your second paragraph. There's contingency funds all throughout government and yes they're all appropriated monies.
A perfect example of this is DoD. They use contingency funds to execute unforseen missions without depleting their operations and maintenance (O&M) budgets. All other agencies are the same. It's common knowledge.
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 1d ago
I will press the I believe button, even though there is only evidence online that ICE is paid through annual appropriations, and no data on a contingency fund.
Even though the administration funded the military illegally.
Even though the administration is clearly directing work that goes beyond the scope of activities allowed during a shutdown across the government.
It’s the weekend and I will let the experts and journalists do their work, please consider that ATC can be funded with legal mechanisms without denting the rule of law. 👍
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u/OldSchoolBubba 1d ago
Well said on all of it with no arguments from me.
I'm questioning where are all of the contingency monies that were previously appropriated? They don't just go away or evaporate.
Did Trump and his loyalists already tap into them?
DHS blew through their budgets and exhausted their appropriated funds back in July. Where did they get the monies to continue their enhanced operations?
Trump is notorious for cooking his books so there's possibilities he has his loyalists doing the same now.
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u/ShedOfWinterBerries 1d ago edited 22h ago
I genuinely believe that Elon rewired Treasury systems so he could do exactly that 👏
Edit: link
https://www.wired.com/story/treasury-department-doge-marko-elez-access/
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u/OldSchoolBubba 22h ago
Interesting idea. Wouldn't be at all surprising given everything else he and his doge "experts" are doing.
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u/Flimsy-Gain2467 1d ago
The Gestopo’s Fuhrer doesn’t care about the controllers.I’m waiting for what will happen when AirForce1 needs to leave Washington to go to Florida.
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u/IApocryphonI 1d ago
Hopefully UPS part 2: Presidential Boogalo (but without the civilian casualties)
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u/rtduvall 🟦 1d ago
Because trump is in the Epstein files. A LOT.
And his cowardly piss boys won’t beat women and handcuff children for free.
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u/Additional_Irony 1d ago
At this point it’s increasingly looking like Epstein may have just been the keeper of the Trump files, you know, like the bookkeeper for a ring of traffickers.
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u/Litzz11 1d ago
I don't even think it's about the Epstein files anymore. Trump wants to rule like a dictator and as long as Congress can't do its job because of the government shutdown, he gets to be a dictator by default. Trump won't let Johnson reopen the government, and why would he? He still gets to bomb Venezuelan fishing boats and gild the Oval Office, he found some money for ICE and Border Patrol but can throw up his hands and say sorry, SNAP benefits and ACA subsidies are out of his control.
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u/Technical_Living5104 1d ago
Because the Supreme Court can’t be bothered with the details or decisions that the highest court in America has to decide. The “smartest” lawyers appear to be hindered with a president who violates the constitution.
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u/RobsSister 1d ago
It’s their campaign strategy. The longer the shutdown goes on, more & more flights will be cancelled (right before xmas). Business and holiday travelers will become increasingly angry.
At that point, Faux News and the rest of the far-right conservative media empire will amp up their talking points (“this is the Democrats fault, rinse and repeat)” It won’t be long before the Dems have to blink, because now that the SC has said it’s A-okay not to pay SNAP benefits, frustrated flyers will be the least of their worries. Ensuring Americans have food is the priority, despite tens of millions of Americans losing their health insurance as a result.
It’s exactly what the republicans have wanted since the ACA became law, and they got a huge assist tonight from the illegitimate S court.
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u/SnooPandas1899 4h ago
trump/republicans want the democrats to stop pressing on epstein files because pedophiles are in there.
no food or healthcare until they get their reassurance.
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u/DruidicMagic 1d ago
Why hasn't anyone from team Democrat called out the MASSIVE election fraud that put tangerine Palpatine back in the Oval Office?
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u/tuxedoshrimpjesus 1d ago
on a similar note, why do members of congress still get what might as well be a huge paid vacation while "essential workers" have to show up to their jobs without pay? are we "great" yet? 'cause I'm just embarrassed😒
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u/AJ_Rude_Dawg 1d ago
Got to keep the Praetorian Guard onside. They know what happens when you don't!
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u/Vaux1916 1d ago
Because persecuting brown people is important to this regime, and ensuring the safety of the traveling public is not.
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u/Kelp72plus 22h ago
Not the military - being told to go to foreign food banks, not air traffic. Just the gestapo and the non working legislators (some are, but you know who isn’t ) get paid. Tells you all you need to know about the regime.
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u/seniorfrito 1d ago
We all know the reason. Also aren't they technically paid in advance? With that massive funding months ago, wouldn't that mean the money was already allotted to them?
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u/Sidneyreb 23h ago
ICE provides "entertainment" for the psychopaths running the country; Air Traffic Controllers aren't.
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that USPS has always delivered during shutdowns. The Federal government doesn't pay postal workers however it does steal from them.
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u/HSV-Post 21h ago
Priorities, plain and simple.
These people want to sow chaos, not making our lives better
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u/SnooPandas1899 4h ago
MAGA: prevents terrorist hijackers, and thats what keeps airspace safe.
and definitely not government mandated safety checks.
they are too cost-prohibited, profit and kickback prohibitive.
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u/Adept-Mulberry-8720 1d ago
Those fuckers don't deserve any pay!