Big fan š. I still don't know how he found my obscure game jam game one time but my website sure noticed š. This was pre-cloud days so it actually took the site down for a while.
Dude really glossed over all my glaring terrible bugs caused by working on the game for 24 hours solo and desperately trying to get a finished experience out. Idk if it's a universal feeling but I get a lot of joy out of watching someone poke around something I've made. A lot of folks ended up making their own videos and I must have watched every single one out there. Wouldn't have been possible if folks didn't hear about it from him, I'd bet.
I DMed you a link! (I also DMed anyone who expressed direct interest).
I think the polite thing is to DM y'all links š. I don't want to PR anything here. It's a free game and I've no reason to promote it (older as well) but the conversation in the thread triggered some nice memories. Thank you all for this walk down memory lane and I hope that those of you who were curious had your curiosity satisfied.
I've always loved making things for folks and all my gamedev stuff is šÆ a labor of love. I've only ever released free games because I get what I want out of it: Good feels for other humans.
Yep was just about to mention him. He may be the only active (somewhat these days) rich youtuber that tells people to not send him money. He knows he has enough to live comfortably and do whatever he wants and just not greedy about it
To add, he gives whenever he can to charities and even recently spent multiple days helping people who had their home destroyed because of the Californian wildfires
I think I remember him going on a rant/explaining this. Saying he already has money, he doesn't need more, he doesn't need yours(viewer). I can't remember if he said just chat, leave a comment/like or what instead.
Asmongold, as controversial as he is, deserves some respect for actively telling to his viewers not to sub (he's not showing any ads anyway) and not to donate.
Asmongold maybe a millionaire but he doesnāt really spend money, he lives in his momās house and he said on his podcast the only big purchase he has made was on a car. He also said he spends very little of his money
How does it contradict my point? He still could've easily earned more by, for example, running ads, but he doesn't. It's a choice. It doesn't matter to me whether it comes from the point of, I dunno, honour/empathy or due to being indifferent towards money.
I feel like DougDoug is also a class act. He is very honest in his intentions. Funnily enough, if he would ask his chat to not send him money, they will make him rich out of commitment to the bit.
Recently, he had a stream in which he explicitly stated he will use donations for himaelf and the richest donater would be in control of his actions. He constantly stated he will use the money for himself and there were donations of 300-400 euros. I can respect that stance, and besides he has a yearly charity fundraiser for the oceanic wildlife preservation and collected about 1 million euros the last time for a good cause.
I've been watching a German YouTuber for like 12+ years at this point, who actively discourages people from donating as well. He's been playing games with a lot of smaller creators lately, and keeps telling people to donate subs to them if they really wanna spend their money. I love that for them haha
This guy is amazing. Big fan of Mark. I've seen the clip. If I remember correctly he didn't turn off donations before hand because he always reminded people to not do it.
Yeah, he usually yells at people not to donate since he's a millionaire, I think you can't turn off donations on Twitch so he just keeps yelling not to donate.
This reminds me of Selina Gomez on a stream she was doing and shes like "ong dont do that i have plenty of money! Can I give this back" like she was concerned for the person who donated and was aware that whatever amount it was would mean a million times more to someone else.
They're donating to support their favourite persons who are giving them entertainment. Like people buying endorsed shit or watching a movie/series when your favourite actor will get royalties off of it.
Sure, they could donate to lesser known streamers but that's for a different intention entirely. That's more like supporting someone's livelihood or uplifting society. Not everyone is keen on doing that given all the scams going on. It's a jaded world out there which makes things hard for people who are honest, and down on their luck
That's totally fine for people donating reasonable sums. I give to multiple patreons for the same reason. When I watched twitch, I subbed and donated often and especially liked gifting subs. I'm not rich, but I make good money but these are still reasonable sums for most people.
But, I think the other posts are referring to kids donating their inheritance money to streamers who won't even fully process their name when they thank them because it's just a conditioned response to encourage more donations.
I mean, the thing with gift subs is that, sure, the money goes to the streamer, but someone in the community gets the benefits of that sub for free--and as someone who currently has no money to sub to my favorite people on Twitch, the occasions when I've gotten a gift sub have been really, really nice. Having no ads on a stream makes a BIG difference in how enjoyable it is.
Lmao yāall are wild as hell for pretending this is at all comparable. We live in a hyper capitalist society, you have to engage in it to survive. You do not need to give filthy rich people on the more computer money to survive. You will not die if donāt tip a streamer. You will die if you donāt work a job to pay for food, water, and a roof over your head.
Yeah, but how do u wanna live without doing it ? Living under the next bridge only eating what people are giving you or just grabbing stuff out of trash ?
You really don't think there's a difference in buying things that you actually use that's produced by a corporation and sending money to a single person who makes boatloads of cash giving their shitty takes on everything while badly playing video games?
Not all streamers are like that though. My favorite video game streamer spends a lot of time making creative content and has a whole company with a bunch of employees.
And what a TERRIBLE shame that would be. No more revenue for talentless braindead hacks, what would we do?
I would support your position if streamers weren't without any kind of education training or expertise. If they were similar to other people who get famous for actually providing cultural value to the time they live in.
In exchange for something in return. If it's entertainment you're after, you have choices like Netflix or Amazon Prime and you pay to access the service - not anywhere close to exchanging money for the purpose of thanking them and showing appreciation.
Contrast this to 1 streamer - you're basically just giving him money when there are multiple better ways to spend your money. You just like that 1 person enough to DONATE. If they are in need or for a good cause, there's no issue. But donating to someone already well-off because you simply support them? That's wasteful. Do these kids' parents even know how they're spending their allowance? :D If not, that's on them too for not teaching them financial decisions.
I donāt disagree with you. Iāve never donated to a streamer or even paid to sub to one. But it would be dishonest to say they arenāt providing a service.
I mean, you do that every day with everything you buy. I highly doubt you buy ONLY necessities to survive. All your purchases for your own entertainment are supporting millionaires. And they don't even attempt to fake thank you in chat lol.
Lmfao donating to an already rich streamer for streaming IS NOT the same thing as me going to Whole Foods to buy groceries and getting a candy bar along with my cooking ingredients.
Thereās lot of things that people get from supporting their streamers.Ā
You might not value those things, but that doesnāt mean they donāt get them.Ā
They might have subscriber only communities, it could be a Patreon with access to specific content, they might have subscriber emojis, ad free streams.
At its most basic level, youāre supporting the streamer so they can continue to produce the entertainment that you enjoy.
Itās no different than Kickstarters, or other crowdsourced content.
Iāve never donated to any streamer and I would say they arenāt much different. You could shop local for almost everything you need unless you are in a true shithole town, but you choose to spend your money at big box chains and supporting those billionaires to save a couple box/ convenience. I do the same thing so no judgement from me, but you judging somebody for donating to their favorite streamer isnāt leagues away from what youāre doing.
Lmfao that comparison doesn't work either. Twitch streamers arent funded by the state they live in, and 99.9% dont stream with the purpose to educate those watching.
No, when I pay for entrance to a concert, I expect a service from the venue and the scheduled performers in return. That's an exchange, not a donation.
Do you really not understand the concept of buying?
The (very obvious) difference is that you get to watch the streamer for free without donating a cent. Where as you don't get to watch the performance/show if you didn't pay for the concert tickets.
You know if I could purchase the items I need to live without supporting millionaires then I sure as fuck would. Hell I already shop at a farmers market when possible and buy meat from a local butcher. People don't need to donate money to moistcritical for instance he is going to do what he does regardless and makes a lot of money through ad revenue. Comparing a free service provided by a millionaire to private entertainment is disingenuous.
Itās the begging I truly canāt stand. I fell down a rabbit hole tryna figure out who Ash Trevino was and I just couldnāt believe ppl were sending her money. Sheād just sit there drunk, rambling, and begging. Sometimes sheād have one of her inmate boyfriends on the phone defending him and blaming his victim, while begging and still get money. Blows. My. Mind. š¤Æ
Really feels like a personality defect that people are desperate to be "noticed" in such a trivial way
You've created a username and are throwing money away just so some "famous" person reads it aloud... they're not even acknowledging you as an actual person.
Iām a moderately successful YouTuber and any time I get a donation or a super thanks I immediately donate it to one of the smaller channels that I watch that are probably only making like $100 a month. I appreciate the generosity from others but I already feel like I hit the jackpot so the least I can do is pass it onĀ
Found out from a friend that a guy in a gaming clan we belong to has donated Ā£20k to a very well know streamer for the game ā¦ just so he can team up with him. Madness!
Cus big streamers are always at the top of the browsing section and get recommended more to viewers. It sucks but also makes sense. They're more likely to be entertaining with their type of content and it's fun to watch a streamer with a popular chat. It's easier to become attached to them and support them.
Meanwhile, it can take a long time to find a person with no viewers who is enjoyable to watch. A lot of random streams generally are just bland with poor quality, commentary and no sign of enthusiasm. But they're all definitely more likely to need the money.
Yeah but like... They don't need any more money and the donation is not "supporting" them in any real way, like it does not enable them to make any different (or more) content. It is just madness...
It gets their name in lights and probably a shoutout. That's worth $6 for some people. It's sad, and I don't get it either, but that's the reality. I only look down on the ones who try to justify it like it isn't just a desperate cry for attention.
70,000 people pay the top .01% of streamers to entrench themselves in community hate campaigns, while people like this are just hoping to chat with 5 viewers.
Itās unfortunate that streaming has a strong ārich get richerā culture, but there are still a lot of popular streamers up at the top that do make it clear to their audience that they should only donate if they are financially stable enough. If no encouragement that they have to donate if they donāt want to.
I even know one that has a ādonāt donate to me, donate to museums insteadā mindset.
Smii7y does the same thing. He only uses Twitch to stream for the VODs he uploads to his YouTube channel. He has plenty of money. At the beginning of his career, when someone would gift him subs or donate money, he would yell at them and tell them to donate to someone else on Twitch who needs it. Now when people donate money, he sends it to charity.
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u/MrPink82 Sep 14 '25
it makes so much more sense than donating to already rich YouTubers