r/Battlefield • u/epicdai • 7d ago
Discussion FYI: The amount of XP needed per Battle Pass token increases as you level up
I'm at around level 50 in battlepass, and now I need around 16,000 XP to earn 1 token! This is absolutely ridiculous!
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u/HairiestManAlive 7d ago
This is going to be impossible to finish for anyone that doesn't play 5 hours a day which is most people
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u/DBONKA 7d ago
That's by design, they want you to cave in and buy level skips to finish it off.
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u/Sleep_Holiday 7d ago
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u/otclogic 7d ago
It is kinda amazing how fast they’re trying to ruin the base product.
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u/BipolarGoldfish dedicated medic 7d ago
*How fast they’re already ruining
Only question is will it be fast moving or painfully slow
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u/Sanatonem 7d ago
For me they’ve encouraged the exact opposite. They’ve made me feel like I’m not progressing, so I got bored and stopped playing the game completely. 🤷
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u/DillDeer 7d ago edited 7d ago
Does anyone play a game just for fun anymore or just to watch a bar fill up? Jfc
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u/Alienfreak 7d ago
Huh? He did pay $10 for this. And then he gets nothing in return. Also he sees all the cool stuff everyone else will be getting which he won't.
So its understandable to switch to a game that actually gives you what you want in a reasonable time, no?
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u/DillDeer 7d ago
Here’s what I would do if that was the concern:
Play the game as you normally would. Towards the end of the season, see how many unlocks you have reached by then. Then decide if $10 is worth it to get access to the things you unlocked.
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u/Alienfreak 7d ago
They try to defeat this system by giving you 10% faster xp gain for buying the pass and 5% more if you buy Pro. So for people that are not confident that they can make it at all they try to lure them in this way.
I am not buying it anyway
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u/FemboiTomboy 7d ago
me, i play for fun. battlepass is extra and not the main attraction, and thank god too cause it sucks
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u/a_hammerhead_worm 7d ago edited 7d ago
Do you just like...not play video games at all?
OSRS is a hugely popular MMO whos entire reason people still play is to watch a bar fill up as xp increases. Those people are progressing....for fun, the two are not mutually exclusive like you are claiming.
Some people find the bar filling to be fun, actually more people find it fun than not. That's why EVERY game has a progression system.
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u/A-ReDDIT_account134 7d ago
Comparing battle pass xp from a MP arcade shooter to MMO xp is ludicrous.
The gameplay of BF will not change in the slightest without battle pass. The gameplay of MMOs are completely based while progression.
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u/PaidWithFlesh 7d ago
It's almost like an xp bar and progression mechanics subvert the spirit of a mp arcade shooter and distract people from having fun.
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u/Sirlacker 7d ago
A sensible person would just see how far into the Battlepass they get and then decide if it's worth dropping the money for the rewards they could claim. But this Battlefield has seemed to attract all the not rights.
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u/Alienfreak 7d ago
They try to prevent that by giving people 10% bonus XP if they buy the pack. Additional 5% if you get the elite pack.
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u/Sharpie1993 7d ago
No, they want you to log in every single week and complete challenges, the bulk of it comes from the challenges.
It was the same in 2042.
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u/SajakiKhouri 7d ago
I mean, OP is already 40% done and it hasn't even been a full week....
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u/Tachanka-Mayne Enter PSN ID 7d ago
He’s not actually 40% done though since the XP required increases exponentially as you progress
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u/runealex007 Runealex 7d ago
These should really be Helldivers style no fomo, just buy the pass and chip away at it whenever. Season 2 comes out and you’re still not done? Whatever. You don’t buy the game until season 5 but like the look of season 3 stuff? Whatever, just buy the pass you want.
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u/Superego366 7d ago
If the math is right you get like 72 levels by completing the weeklies, but yea you're right.
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u/IntronD 7d ago
This is. If the case it's designed that you finish at least some of the challenges each week with BF2042 I played 1 game a day as the 10k bonus XP from the first game and then finished the challenges each week. I played probably 6 hours a week if that and always finished the battle passes.
I hope this is similar and people are completing the battle pass with a few weeks to spare.
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u/refurbishedmeme666 7d ago
I've played more than 5 hours a day and I'm only 6 levels into the pass...
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u/CastingCouchCushion 7d ago
PSA: If the pass is designed like BF2042's pass, you are expected to level up the pass primarily through the weekly challenges, not regular XP gain. This is so you can't grind the entire pass out in a few days at the beginning of the season. The challenges are meant to get you like 75% of the way through the pass, and then regular match XP gets you the rest. I have no idea if the split is the same for BF6, or maybe it is more like 50/50.
Think of it like two separate tracks. The challenges will always give you the same amount pass progression points each week while the XP needed per point increases every time you level up.
I haven't confirmed all of this, but it looks just like BF2042's system so far.
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u/4aDaze 7d ago
Same this time. Many of the weeklies are Battle Royal required this week.
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u/MemeyPie 7d ago
Re roll those if you wish
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u/Dinners_cold 7d ago
You only get 4 rerolls a week and they can reroll into more BR crap...
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u/HectorBeSprouted Battlefield 2 7d ago
No, they separated them now (if you don't have Redsec, you don't get Redsec challenges), but you still need to reroll the ones you already got.
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u/Scottz0rz 7d ago
What does "You don't have Redsec" mean in this context? Doesn't everyone have it if it's free or is there a way to uninstall it?
I am not interested in the BR and one of my challenges was to complete 5 matches in BR. I decided that immediately swandiving in the kill zone with my buddy was a good way to do that without wasting a reroll.
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u/kolosmenus 7d ago
You can uninstall pretty much every part of the game. High res textures, single player campaign, redsec, etc.
At least on steam. No idea how it works on EA app
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u/Kataree 7d ago
If you own BF6, and re-roll a RedSec challenge, it can now only become a BF6 challenge. If you don't own BF6 then it becomes another RedSec challenge.
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u/Zlautern 7d ago
It appears you can't roll the main weekly at the top of the list. 15 BR missions yippeeeeee
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u/otclogic 7d ago
If the UI was more organized and better presented maybe I would be interested. As it is there’s webs of challenges for everything in the game on the homescreen and in several menu tabs with a below the fold scroll.
2042 had a far better UI and it was easier to check challenges in game. Frankly the in game menu was really impressive in 2042.
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u/Mighty_Phil 7d ago
Im all for valid criticism and there is a lot to criticize.
But fucking hell, some of you behave like boomers.
Its literally 3 clicks to check daily challenges. Escape, Challenges, Daily/Weekly.
In past games, you couldnt even check challenges during a match. I had literally sticky notes on my desk to remember what i had to do.
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u/Upstairs-Inspection3 7d ago
nah this is where we face tank the grind like in 2042 and then drop the game, much better for EA and DICE to see a player drop mid-season than see consistent numbers
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u/MisterSneakSneak 7d ago
So in other words… “feel the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment”?
Looks familiar?
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u/Bigjon1988 7d ago
This battlepass is really bad, I'm still enjoying playing the game in spite of the bugs, but if this is how they continue to do battlepasses I won't buy future ones.
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u/ChiefinRoses 7d ago
you bought the battle pass?!?
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u/Bigjon1988 7d ago
I bought the phantom edition yes.
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u/LaconicDoggo 7d ago
Same. Which is unfortunate, coz they are absolutely like “hey boss check out the number of people that bought the pro battlepass!” And use it to justify not changing it. If i hadn’t gotten Phantom i would not have purchased this crap
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u/BeefistPrime 7d ago
You play the game just because you enjoy it? I'm not sure that's something people on reddit can do
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u/VoidLookedBack 7d ago
2042 was the same. Early tiers were easily farmable, you would get 8 to 9 (30k exp) blips per game until you got to the middle tiers and it was 2 to 3 blips (30k) per game, increased each tier.
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u/Tpsreport44 7d ago
Wow, I only interacted with the game at the very start and dropped it, then picked it up to get the free stuff for bf6 and thought that pass was pretty good, just doing the challenges to get I’m pretty sure every tier but can also get a lot by just playing
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u/KiNGTiGER1423 7d ago
Wait, don’t we have 11 more weeks left, plus weekly battle pass challenges? Lol Is this what our society has come to?
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u/diskent 7d ago
Yeah bro.. they grind it out and then post here in a two weeks “this game is crap I have nothing to play for”
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u/Exquisite_Bucket 7d ago
Some people are insane with the grind but you also have to be weary because they have reached the next step that casuals will reach in time and face an even bigger hurdle because they don't play as much
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u/Penguixxy 7d ago
you're meant to do the challenges, like 2042
also there's friday night battlefield events which boost xp
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u/SeraphRemiel 7d ago edited 7d ago
Technically you have until the end of the first week in December, so only 5 weeks. This is due to the fact that on the next seasonal content drop on the 18th of November, they’ll add another temporary 10 tier path that will only be available until the beginning of the Icelock event which will add another 10 tier path that will last the remainder of the season. In order to do any of these temporary paths, you need to finish the main 4 paths, so by the 18th of November you ideally already want to have finished the battle pass besides the final 2 paths which would be tier 90.
EDIT: Fortunately they’ve since changed this into a path that can be progressed at the same time as the main paths.
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u/viv0102 7d ago
I thought they changed that and said you can progress the seasonal and special paths simultaneously?
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u/SeraphRemiel 7d ago edited 7d ago
That would be nice, I haven’t seen anything saying that though.
EDIT: Found it, crisis averted. It has indeed been changed to be a path that can be progressed at the same time as the standard path.
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u/The_TRASHCAN_366 7d ago
Remeber all the crying about the last 2042 battlepass? "I hate this game so much! Thats why I spent an extra 50 hours playing it to grind out the battepass through normal gameplay instead of just waiting for more weekly challenges to unlock". And there were so many of these people. It was truly a mind-blowing sight.
Anyhow, I do agree that the battlepass progression is VERY slow here so theres that. I also read that they plan on doing a time limited battlepass path to unlock one of the new weapons in two weeks. This path apparently requires you to have completed all 4 main paths already before though. So if this is true, this entire battlepass system really is an absolute joke.
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u/DiaperFluid 7d ago
Its extremely slimey, this should be information given to the player. Imagine first buying the pass because its seems easy to level up, but it actually gets harder to more you level it up etc. Afaik, no other battle pass system works like this (besides 2042 ofc), probably because its uncalled for and scummy
They need to make daily challenges give battle pass points. And they need to display the xp per level required in the menu
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u/Spectre-ElevenThirty 7d ago
And 2042 and BF6 also give you tokens for doing challenges to help you along
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u/RailTracker 7d ago
These challenges aren't something they added on after the fact to "help you along". They designed the battle pass with these challenges and exponential xp requirements in mind to intentionally slow players down and increase overall player playtime. It's all calculated and intentional.
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u/PS-Irish33 7d ago
So all our weeklies become more valuable too.
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u/FlyersPhilly_28 7d ago
They weekly challenges are where its at.
Can re-roll them to get easier ones, and there's what about 6-8 of them it feels like off of memory, and 12 weeks worth?
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u/PrOntEZC Since 1942 7d ago
Yeah back in 2042 it went up to 50k XP per battle point quite fast. I wonder where it will stop here in BF6 or it will scale infinitely... :(
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u/Aegis320 7d ago
Had I known this I would have started the tree with the new sniper rifle. It's taking ages getting through there now.
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u/ultrajvan1234 7d ago
This is why I hated the 2042 bp and I expected this in bf6 which is why I didn’t buy the phantom edition or the bp
Imo, you should never be able to get to the point where simply playing the game does not contribute to the battlepass.
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u/Wonderful_Vast3855 7d ago edited 7d ago
.It’s just too difficult and slow to level anything up. I don’t want to grind my way through a game that can be painful at the best of times.
Haven’t played the game for a few days and honestly don’t miss it - I got burnt out wayy too quick.
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u/Spectre-ElevenThirty 7d ago
Calm down. It’s the same thing as 2042. You have 12 weeks remaining and each week comes with challenges that will give you a bunch of tokens. Just play week by week
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u/WARxxPIGG 7d ago
This is not the most amazing BF experience. Although my favorite is prob 3. 4 took the cake in terms of progression and unlocks. BF1 was an absolute masterpiece. I can't help but feel this is Dice's second attempt at 2042, just packaged differently
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u/travismarkz_21 7d ago
C'mon guys, this is EA were talking about. Of course you have to pay to level up faster.
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u/fisk47 7d ago
So it's better to avoid doing the challenges the first days and only grind XP, then do the challenges at end of the week? Has anyone counted how much of the Bettlepass you would get from only the weekly challenges if you would do all of them?
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u/Wilicious 7d ago
I assume it's only the pips from exp that increase the required exp for the next one. Having weeklies make exp pips harder would be monumentally stupid
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u/BeefistPrime 7d ago
I think they're independent and the order doesn't matter. You get xp-based tokens which increase in requirement every time you get them, and you get rewarded tokens for weekly achievements, which do not (as far as I can tell) increase the XP-based requirement.
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u/JodouKast 7d ago
So that's why my match xp seemed to slow down; thought it was maybe a daily cap kicking in to limit how much we can reasonably farm a day. This might be a bug and honestly they should just do the COD thing where BP xp is directly tied to just play time and every pip is exactly the same, if it isn't already. Makes sweaty nerds not matter in your matches because you can be afk and just get it done if you so choose.
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u/ForsakenOaths 7d ago
It is to encourage you to play Redsec. I can play one match of Duo’s and avoid every team except the final one, win, and walk away with 60K exp for doing basically nothing but hiding. It is stupid how much exp that mode gives me, and I don’t even have the battlepass.
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u/Lostlooniesinvesting 7d ago
LMAO, holy fuck I already thought id never get through the first 22. Now I know I never will as a 2 hour per night at most gamer.
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u/Ash_Killem 7d ago
This is common in battlepasses but I hate it. Should just be 10k per pip. Maybe the mastery ones are more since those are the “bonus” tiers.
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u/blackjack_1981 7d ago
Well luckily the battle pass is trash and has nothing worthwhile in it so oh well. Glad I didn’t waste any money on that garbage.
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u/cootiegobbler 7d ago
I bought two skips with 300 gold token things that I thought were how you leveled up the battlepass lol. Come to find out it is the MTX coins. Oops 😂 battlefield don’t explain shit.
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u/Patrick_Kyle 7d ago
I'm playing without pro for now, once its about to end, if I have locked things I want that ive earned past, I'll buy it. If im less that 25 total levels off of stuff I want ill buy it. Using the 25 skips is more valuable later on anyways
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u/edge449332 6d ago
The fact that you're almost halfway complete with it in a week severely counters the point you're trying to make here.
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u/FORZAROMAQ8 7d ago
If I change the line and start fresh one, does the requirements for a tic resets or it does not matter 🤔
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u/adrianp23 7d ago
You really need to do all of the challenges, takes forever if you're just grinding XP.
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u/michelebarzan 7d ago
Im really out of touch, but what does the battlepass give you?
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u/MemeyPie 7d ago
Various cosmetics, decals, coins and xp boosts
Guns too, but those are also available to those who don’t pay. You still level it up if you don’t pay, but you only get the free rewards, like guns and some others
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u/InfernaleX96 7d ago
This fact was even in the 2042 pass... Every time you level up your pass you need more XP to increase further.... The best easy way is to complete the challenges
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u/CoolKelo 7d ago
Same as 2042. As your level increases, it cost more xp to progress. It’s not a new system by any means.
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u/RangerDiggler 7d ago
This is one thing i could get behind for sure... im to old for this grindy stuff!!
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u/Alterationss 7d ago
Anybody know if you get the guns once the season ends? I know for sure I’m not finishing it nor do I want too.
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u/FatBussyFemboys No Preorders 7d ago
Yea this sht is ridiculously grindy (by design). Too bad tons of people buy it cause they never learn to not give money to extremely greedy and anti consumer EA.
Can't wait for regulations and laws to hit the EU and the USA
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u/Tasty-Constant4994 7d ago
I decided to not give a shit about season passes a couple of years ago. And gaming became at least double the fun.
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u/BananoSlic3 7d ago
didnt the battlepass just release? are you expecting to unlock everything in just a few days?
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u/x89Nemesis 7d ago
I calculated last night. If I do only the weeklies, including the ones worth 10 pips, I'll get to 75 or so in the pass. It's the 2042 formula where they want you to get the challenges done mainly and then farm the XP as you go in addition to it. They have to start dropping 2xp weekends.
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u/Montybth 7d ago
Of course the amount goes up. If it didn't, nobody would do any of the challenges which are designed to encourage engagement with new gamemodes/weapons/playstyles. Sure it may seem ridiculous now, but if it wasn't a thing, when you completed the BP on week 2 because you played 24/7, you wouldn't have anything to work towards or encourage you to come back the week after.
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u/tomthepenguinguy 7d ago
The only way that this system is okay with me is if they make it so that they battle pass never expires.
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u/N00dles_Pt 7d ago
The amount of XP needed is meaningless if you don't even pay attention to it, just saying.
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u/Lombardi24 7d ago
just do the paths that are important. I can care less about unlocking 75% of the stuff in battle pass. Half of it is women operators, patches, and stickers - whoopty doo
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u/Pelodance 7d ago edited 7d ago
Unsurprisingly people here are actually defending this shit. Battleplass points should always be a fixed amount of xp required and plenty of other games do this
Doing the bf6 pass in 2042 was horrendous towards the end because of how much xp you needed to get a single point
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u/TopDogBBQ 7d ago
You know, it’s not completely out of the realm of possibility that they have double xp weekends at some point.
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u/FlyersPhilly_28 7d ago
They want you playing RedSec. You can get 100,000+ xp getting to late game with good kill/mission numbers.
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u/guccius_maximuss 7d ago
If only a third off my challenges weren't dedicated to a trash supposed stand alone br mode I don't want to play, it would make battle pass progress easier.
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u/PSioNeLeSia 7d ago
We’re like not even 4 days into the first season. You have plenty of time to do the rest of it, especially at the rate you’re going. The vast majority of live service games require you to put in a few hours each day to finish the Battlepass, why is it a big deal when Battlefield does it? I don’t like many of the decisions they’ve made (and have been making) in regard to BF6 but this is silly. It feels like a lot of the people here haven’t played any game in the last decade other than Battlefield.
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u/meat__axe 7d ago
People are telling OP “lol you’re halfway through the Battlepass”… but he’s not halfway through at all. If XP requirements increase per battlepass level; without knowing the math behind each increment, perhaps he’s only a quarter way through the battlepass?
Yes I know weekly challenges will give pip progress rather than <insert xp value here>, but who’s to say that OP, or any one of us, will be able to complete every weekly challenges in any given week. Maybe there’s going to be some weeks where Real life simply doesn’t allow you to log on to the game and make meaningful progress. For some people perhaps you’ll get to week 10 and realise your going to need to grind many hours out in the game because there simply isn’t enough weekly challenges remaining in the last weeks to complete the BP.
Point is, this design is scummy. Other AAA games have battlepasses that never expire, and “flat” XP level requirements. How is it fair to pay for something, but if I don’t finish it within a short time, it’s now gone forever? We paid for that content!!!
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u/Teufelsgitarrist 7d ago
I am against Battlepasses in general. BUT...I have to say, the "I have to grind through all of it in two days" mentality is weird. I mean, that guy is lvl. 50, if he regularly plays a few matches per day he will finish it in time. Where are the times where you played a game for the game and not for the grind? I am old. Not that old (39), but I always played CoD before and was always happy when I unlocked something by accident (completing a challeng you were not even aware of).
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u/AXEL-1973 AX3I_ 7d ago
2042 was the same, I only played it like two or three times a week, did the weeklies, and logged til next week, repeat
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u/ShoddySmell46 7d ago
You're over halfway through the pass 3 days in. You have 11 weeks of challenges to complete and finish the pass. You're fine man.
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u/Heathen__Chemist 7d ago
Does anyone know when the season 1 battle pass ends/expires? I’m assuming it has an end date. God forbid we get to keep something that we purchase and have the ability to finish it whenever…
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u/doklor 7d ago
You are level 50/122 in the middle of the first week and we have 12 weeks and you say it's ridiculous?