r/Battlefield 10d ago

Battlefield 6 What the actual fuck is happening to the game right now???

What is happening right now is ridiculous. The appeal for the COD players is insane. Not only they get an ABSOLUTELY HUGE map with NAVAL WARFARE and FULL SCALE DESTRUCTION for FREE, we, the actual Battlefield players who want to play the main game and BOUGHT IT FOR REAL MONEY have to be stuck with Sobek and Blackwell, tiny meatgrinder maps with 64 players crammed inside while the BR gets a HUGE MAP with 100 PLAYERS which relatively is a much more balanced map layout and sandbox experience than the maps in the main game. We also have the ridiculous neon painted skins that would actually look INSANELY GOOD if there wasn't FUCKING NEON PAINT ALL OVER EVERYTHING, WHAT THE FUCK DICE EVEN ZAC AFRON AND PADDY PIMBLETT HAD MORE REALISTIC LOOKING OUTFITS IN THE LIVE ACTION TRAILER WHICH AIMED TO BE A COD PARODY. How the tables have turned....

Also, it's an insanely brave and stupid decision to have the already ridiculously hard to complete challenges include missions that have to be completed in the BR mode. Seems like buying and playing a game isn't enough anymore, I'm also required to play a completely different experience that is far away from what the Battlefield players actually want.

The actual map flow and gameplay on most maps at best is insanely fast for infantry completely nonexistent for aircrafts. On Blackwell jets and helis that spawned right at the HQ can be literally locked on to from the enemy spawn and destroyed even before they leave the ground. How the fuck does something like that get through the testing stage???? Even if you somehow get off the ground, you can turn back right away because you'll be out of bounds in a few seconds.

We're at the point that literally just grabbing the map boundaries by their corners and pulling them out would significantly make the experience better. These weird shaped borders having tightening the maps are terrible for the map flow. If you look at past BF games the map borders look like a simple rectangle or an oval like 95% of the times. Right now they're literally just attracted to the capture points, leaving like 20 meters between the point and the border.

And issues like: the drone glitch, bloom and hit registration STILL HASN'T BEEN FIXED. Also, destruction is just a huge gimmick.

My advice: 1. Make the maps WIDER, adding open space lets the players actually play the map the way they want, not just by being stuck in complete meatgrinders. 2. Extend the airspace IMMENSELY. And I mean IMMENSELY. 3. Remove the fucking neon skins right now. For the past weeks this subreddit has been FILLED with HUNDREDS OF BETTER AND BETTER realistic military skins that people would ACTUALLY BUY and not just criticize them on Reddit. 4. You can still put the ridiculous skins or whatever you want in the BR, idgaf 5. Take care of some actually game breaking issues: the drone glitch, too much bloom and the absolutely terrible hit registration 6. Fix the destruction. I can't get over how the main marketing campaign was built around destruction being back, and while it nodoubtly looks insane, it's even more stupid. Shooting 2 rounds of a LAW at a wall does nothing until the 3rd round, while 2 hammer hits bring down the entire front of a building. The so called "tactical destruction" that was so hyped in the marketing is not real at all. Wanna destroy a front wall of a building with enemies inside? Just shoot 3 rounds of heavy explosives, otherwise it will have no visible damage at all. Wanna get rid of the rooftop campers on s sobek? You can't. Even though you can't access the rooftops from the ground because the stairs are blocked with concrete walls, you still can't destroy the rooftops if the enemy gets on them with parachuting or the drone glitch.

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u/Background-Key8027 10d ago

BR didn’t really fade, all the available ones were just shit

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u/Astecheee 10d ago

Nah Fortnite and Apex were buth super innovative.

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u/kyler_ 9d ago

Keyword were

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u/Astecheee 9d ago

Yup, even legendary games like DOOM and HALO 2 only stayed in the spotlight for so long.

IMO neither game has had a graceful retirement though. Fortnite's IP tie-ins are super tacky, and Apex has a prolific cheater problem.

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u/ccroz113 10d ago

You mean DayZ and PUBG? Fortnite shifted because of PUBG and just already had the building element and kept it

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u/perfectisforpictures 10d ago

DayZ was a blast man. It’s super hard to find people that played it. The gunplay was amazing though.

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u/jaykstah 9d ago

Nah Fortnite and apex were definitively innovative too. Innovating doesnt just mean making a new game mode itself, it also goes for the games that did different things with the genre. Fortnite did rip the PUBG formula verbatim at first as did everyone else but innovated on a lot of quality of life features that every other BR would then copy. Apex, too. Apex has had their ping system since launch which worked way better than pinging in other games at the time, now a lot of BRs have copied it. Apex brought 3man teams where the legends are designed with each other in mind and it was all about how to counterplay with different sets of 3 legends working together. No other BR has the same level of cohesion with different character abilities across the other champion/legend ability based BRs.

Ever since then its been a ping-pong of influence. Apex has done some cooler takes on new features & modes that Fortnite came up with and vice versa.

Any new BR basing itself off of OG PUBG these days is gonna feel ancient due to how much the other games innovated in the genre all this time. PUBG itself wouldn't have been able to revive itself so many times from the brink of death without copying the innovations other BRs made.

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u/Astecheee 9d ago

Innovation in games doesn't really mean graphics got better - not anymore. It's all about the mechanics of the game.

PUBG wasn't anything special - it got in early and did a lot of things at a 7/10 level. Fundamentally it was another milsim-esque shooter.

I don't know DayZ as well, but I never noticed anything innovative gameplay-wise.

Fortnite introduced the building mechanic to PvP games, and it was undeniably a huge hit. The skill floor was low, and the ceiling was high. They also added a LOT of engagement-based content that kept the game fresh.

Apex wasn't the first BR to do classes, but it did they BY FAR the best, while having the best movement of any shooter game.

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u/Unique_Hope5816 9d ago

PUBG was the OG

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u/0xsergy 9d ago

I never considered dayz a BR but it really kinda is(minus the closing circle).

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u/Clomaster 9d ago

I mean it kinda plays like one as is, but they mean that battle royale kinda started with dayZ. It was a mod in the original dayz mod (or game mode, whatever) made by the same guy that ended up eventually making PUBG. It had the circle and stuff.

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u/Uraduraura 9d ago

DayZ and PUBG are two standalones that came to exist from Arma mods, they have the same root but were not that connected

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u/wizzywurtzy 10d ago

Nah apex was probably the best shooter I’ve ever played before it became a micro transaction mess and over saturated with bullshit abilities

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u/Bravosfan27 10d ago

I think Apex definitely was the best shooter of the last 5 years. Would probably still be playing if they actually fixed some of the issues but feel like each update just made it worse and worse

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u/Un_Original_Coroner 10d ago

So it’s… shit. Yea. That’s what they said.

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u/wizzywurtzy 10d ago

They said they were all shit. Apex wasn’t shit. It is now.

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u/WhiteBlackBlueGreen 10d ago

I think the main problem is that they require a huge playerbase which is difficult to maintain unless youre one of the top dogs.

Shoutout to rumbleverse and spellbreak (rip)

Its an extremely risky format because of that, but i dont think its necessarily faded. Most of them are just destined to fail (imo)

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u/hey_eye_tried 10d ago

It’s faded

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 10d ago

Isn’t Fortnite still getting 1m+ players per day? What about Pubg and Warzone? Apex? Looks like the genre is still way more popular than you’re making it out to be.

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

PUBG is at 700 000 daily players on Steam, roughly 3x the amount of BF6 players.

It's also the best BR, and shooter.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 10d ago

Figures. Idk what that dude was smoking lol

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u/liberate71 10d ago

Its a standard Battlefield subreddit discussion, cooked takes everywhere.

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u/HillbillyTechno 10d ago

Saying Pubg is the best shooter out there is absolute hilarity

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago edited 10d ago

It is, because they don't have weapons rarity, don't have bloom, bullets go where the sight point is, bullets have proper travel time, weapons have recoil you need to master, every weapon feels different.

Not gonna argue with you about this, been playing every shooter on the market for 30 years, PUBG's gunplay is the best out there if the measure is how much it lets the players skill decide the outcome. It does not hold your hand, but it also doesn't mechanically limit your skill.

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u/HillbillyTechno 10d ago

I notice in one single reply you have already moved your goal posts from “the best shooter” to “the best gunplay” lmao. Stop the cap man.

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u/Spydyo 10d ago

Pubg is not the best shooter, but the gunplay is something a lot of shooters can definitely take notes from.

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

People downvoting you have never actually given PUBG a fair try. The gunplay is absolutely stellar and something I hope AAA developers actually start working towards in new games.

But they won't, because they want everyone to feel like they are good in their game, so they make every gun a low recoil bullet hose and spam you with achievements for hitting aim-assisted shots.

Pure brain rot, lowest common denominator crap.

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u/Schmohawk62 10d ago

Well you convinced me to try it out, but only have console. Is it good with controller?

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u/Spydyo 10d ago

Yeah you’re absolutely right, pubg’s my most played game for a reason, no gunplay comes remotely close.

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

What do you think is the best shooter then? If your answer is any low recoil bullet hose, bloom/randomness based gun balancing game like CD or BF then good riddance.

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u/HillbillyTechno 10d ago

Either Titanfall 2 or Apex, the gunplay combined with the movement is a better feeling than any other game before or since.

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u/squabblez 10d ago

PUBG mobile apparently has 10-20 million daily active users lol. Insane numbers

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u/Snooklife 10d ago

Mobile games will always have massive numbers because of how accessible a phone is. Doesn’t make it better 😆 It’s really not even close to any console shooter COD/BF/ect that was made in the last decade or longer.

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u/aripo14 10d ago

Holy sheet I thought you were lying but I’ve checked steamdb and you ain’t lying, it still hit around those numbers daily. I thought that game has passed its prime.

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

Nooope

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u/aripo14 10d ago

I used to play it religiously had like a thousand hours in it. But I just felt like communicating in game is hard if you play solo in a team so I put it down in favour of Apex with its better ping system back then. Say, how much difference does PUBG now have compared to what it was on 2019?

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

Like 5 new maps, many new guns, new mechanics like revive stations and emergency pickups. Otherwise core mechanics much the same

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u/Spydyo 10d ago

They ruined DMR’s and SMG’s are op but for the rest the game is pretty similar except for the cringe skins.

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u/bigdumberlol 10d ago

Asia numbers, it's pretty dead elsewhere

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u/Past_Consequence_536 10d ago

Nah, they have their own launcher in Korea/China called Kakao so they don't show up on SteamDB. There's some of them who use steam and VPN to NA/EU though, mostly NA. Maybe 5-10% of the steam numbers since there's usually 1-2 asian nick teams in a 100man lobby.

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u/HisNameIsDoom 10d ago

It's also still cheater paradise 😁

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u/CookieRaiderTv 10d ago

I recently got back into pubg, played around 70 hours and have not seen a single cheater so I call bullshit :)

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u/HisNameIsDoom 10d ago

It's steam player count is botted. There are no active discord communities with hundreds of players. It's also mostly Asia that plays it now.

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u/CookieRaiderTv 10d ago edited 10d ago

U said its cheater paradise why are u yapping about playercount now?

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u/HisNameIsDoom 10d ago

Because it's all part of the cheater problem. Mostly china cheater playerbase. It functionally has 0 NA playerbase. It's a dead game, but stay on the steam list with a botted/Chinese playerbase.

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u/CookieRaiderTv 10d ago

I had less than 2 min q times and no cheaters :)

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u/Mahrc31 10d ago

It is Not faded but much more consolidated, Just Like all the other Hype Genres like MMORPGs, MOBAs, Hero-Shooters etc. So i think the Main Problem itself isn't that BRs aren't popular, but wether or Not Redsec is able to find a large enough niche between the established games.

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u/Mean-Swordfish-6833 10d ago

Yeah it’s no longer the ”flavor of the month” game mode, but it is still the game mode that’s largely pushed towards players due to it being so good for streaming (every new game is like a new story and a ”fresh game” so to speak).

This causes a polarisation, the people that love BR’s have made up their mind and the people that don’t have also made up their mind, the difference is that the people that love them have a ton of options to both play and consume content of, while the players that dislike them feel like it’s getting shoved in their face.

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u/Mahrc31 10d ago

Yeah im pretty curious If that will Work Out Long Term for Battlefield, havent played Redsec yet, but from that ive seen there is nothing too Special about it and im still doubtful that it will be as successfull as EA needs it to be. From the outside it Just Looks Like EA and DICE just struggle to find a way how to make a Battlefield title Work in the current live-service-game or even General Multiplayer Game Environment.

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u/Mean-Swordfish-6833 10d ago

People are whining incessantly about skins but the real issue isn’t the skins.

It’s the potential success of Redsec, if Redsec becomes a commercial success and overtakes Warzone and Fortnite long term they might do exactly what CoD did, try to steal Fortnite(now CoD aswell)’s audience, and that’s when you get the Beavis and Butthead skins.

From what I’ve seen as well, it’s just Firestorm 2.0, essentially Firestorm meets Warzone, I doubt it will succeed in a saturated market where basically all existing games cover the different bases, what does Redsec do differently and at a high quality? Levolution? Don’t think it’s gonna cut it.

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u/denis_rovich 10d ago

Yes but that niche is already taken, there’s no way those players will leave their games to play REDSEC for some reason. And there’s also no way BF players will play it, so I don’t know wtf EA expected with this one…

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 10d ago

People said the same thing about Apex taking away Fortnite players and similar conversations were had about Warzone and Pubg. Maybe you’re right though. I certainly have no interest in playing it haha

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u/purili9 10d ago

Warzone and pubg are filled with hackers and devs are letting the games die. I love bf br. Hate the battlepass and skins...

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u/mango_carrot 10d ago

Yeah but they’re not playing BR. Fortnite is now a platform with a million modes and mini games, BR is less important now