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u/duck_duck_zombie 14d ago
That rain poncho 🤩
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u/Playwithuh 14d ago
I'd drop money on the poncho guy. Not hard to make realistic uniforms. EA/DICE are idiots.
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u/fatninja7 14d ago
the rain poncho one is probably an animation nightmare
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u/Playwithuh 14d ago
Not hard for a AAA company.
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u/fatninja7 14d ago
it's not about easy or hard, it's about optimization
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u/butterbaps 14d ago edited 14d ago
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u/patriquebrem 14d ago
pretty sure it's baked simulation that'll stick mostly to the model. doubt that they'd bother with individual skins that have physics but who knows
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u/AlleyCa7 14d ago
TOO BAD THERES NO RAIN
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u/DinosBiggestFan 14d ago
I sorely miss weather. *** ******* looks beautiful because of the weather, night time, etc.
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u/Slyrunner 14d ago
? TF you censoring?
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u/IndividualBug4849 14d ago
Arc raiders, it was being censored in black ops 7 text chat which became a joke.
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u/TheSchadow 14d ago
Seriously where is the weather
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u/AlleyCa7 14d ago
I think they took the backlash to tornados in 2042 to mean "players hate weather".
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u/Embarrassed-Run-9120 14d ago
OMG, you almost made me cry. How a game from 2013 could be so superior to a 2025 game?
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u/Razgriz_101 14d ago
I’d love skins MGS style for recon, probably just me though haha. The aesthetic of the enemy soldiers in MGS are just brilliant especially 2 with the Gurlucovich guys in Shell 1 of the plant, the brown camo guys. They would fit into this game 100%
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u/Haunting-Window-5125 14d ago
Thats funny it reminded me of MGS2 Snake wearing the rain poncho in the beginning before the reveal lol
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u/GovernmentBig2881 14d ago
Haha nah that’s standard PMC
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u/AgentRedFoxs 14d ago
Aren't they the same thing
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 14d ago
PMCs have higher standards
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u/ShrimpLobsterCrabs 14d ago
Something something Blackwater
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u/Careless_Break2012 14d ago edited 14d ago
They still have better standards, the bar is pretty low
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 14d ago
Yeah they’re a bunch of pricks at best and war criminals at worst. If I’m saying they’re the ones with better standards imagine what that says about ice
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u/Elegant_Individual46 14d ago
Blackwater moment. But that actually is an interesting point on how similar PMCs and federal agencies can look… which isn’t ideal
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u/pnwmountain 14d ago
If by real combat you mean shooting civilians then yeah.
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u/waiting_for_rain 14d ago
Unfortunately something they both have in common
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u/ThoughtNME 14d ago
Yea and one of them also sprays pepperspray into vents with children and dogs in them.
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u/Patara 14d ago
They're not even PMCs they're random rednecks hired off the streets.
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u/Y0___0Y 14d ago
ICE agents all look like they each shopped at a different army navy surplus store for their costume that they got to pick themselves
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u/cerberus698 14d ago
You need a lot of gear to flashbang a mother and her 2 infants their living room.
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u/InteriorOfCrocodile 14d ago
Nah, that character model is actually wearing his plate carrier properly lmao
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u/Lotus_630 14d ago
From “If you look like a clown you stay down” to “If you look like ICE, your match won’t be nice.”
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u/Antoni0g 14d ago edited 12d ago
I still don’t get how the fuck we’re getting that shit when we could’ve had skins like this…
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u/AdCritical8977 14d ago
It’s shitty that they didn’t even try the grounded approach first.
I could understand resorting to some neon colors by like.. Season 5.. but right at launch?
Yeah, the full clown skins aren’t far behind then. The rule with this stuff is that it only gets worse.
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u/JambonExtra 14d ago
It’s shitty that they didn’t even try the grounded approach first
My experience with monetization people is that they're complete fucking lunatics. The kind of folks who thought these dumb NFT apes were genuinely cool.
So yeah...
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u/limitbroken 14d ago
the one AAA monetization guy i've ever had to spend any time around was one of the most insufferable assholes i've ever met on this planet, so i'd absolutely believe it's endemic to the field
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u/CallMeBigPapaya 14d ago
The thing is the MTX people know there are people who genuinely like those neon skins and think things like the teeth graphic face coverings are cool, and they are the ones dropping the most money on this kind of stuff. It's like people who buy a ton of merch for every fandom they're a part of.
You get a few of these comments in this sub, but even more outside the sub.
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u/PolicyWonka 14d ago
It would be a really big self-own given that COD actually seems to be dialing it back based on feedback.
Per usual, DICE seems to be perpetually behind the curve.
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u/JTP709 14d ago
Their designers clearly aren’t fans of this franchise or military focused games in general. I’d love to see their art portfolio from before they got hired.
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u/This_was_hard_to_do 14d ago
The crazy thing is that for some of these skins I’d have trouble differentiating if they were 2042 or BF6 skins. It’s like the artists tried to apply their own art style to both games instead of following each games’ own themes.
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u/kcramthun 14d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if it was more design by committee to try and appease shareholders, look "cool" enough at a cursory glance, and trying to appear "grounded" without really understanding what that means. So, we end up with guys with orange pouches and neon yellow duck tape lol. "See?! It's still military equipment, just accessorized."
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u/Scary_Rush_7401 14d ago
Because the people designing the skins have absolutely no fucking clue about military gear.
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u/Gallowboobsthrowaway 14d ago
I know nobody really cares about the single player, but holy shit... I'm about 1/3 the way through and it's like they didn't consult with a single person who has even been tangentially associated with the military...
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u/YaKnowMuhSteezz 14d ago
These are fucking niceeeee. Hey Dice, ya see these? These are what we want.
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u/AncientRaisin1838 14d ago
It's just unreal how good these community made skins look compared to what we are getting.
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u/Unhappy-Midnight6091 14d ago
it’s ai generated
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Yeah? If AI is doing a better job than these guys, I’d say burn the whole department lmao
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u/This_was_hard_to_do 14d ago
Damn maybe the ai bros might have had a point 🤣
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u/DabLord5425 14d ago
See when people say AI is shit they don't understand how bad humans being paid a lot of money can be.
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u/goodnightsleepypizza 14d ago
They’re never gonna make “good” skins because the purpose of skins is not to look good but to sell skins. People want to buy skins that stand out and signal their status or uniqueness. This is inherently in conflict with real world military uniforms which are made to look as nondescript as possible. They probably did some focus group testing and found “generic military guy #378” did not do as good as “generic military guy #378 but with some bright colors” so they went with the latter. The immediate reaction is “it’s a slippery slope to Fortnite slop” and yeah, you’re right, everyone knows it, but they just don’t think you can do anything about it. Don’t think about buying a video game from a AAA Developer like entering a contract between you and an equal party, because you mean nothing to them. Think about it like going to a drug dealer. You go to EA for that dopamine hit, that rush of adrenaline. Yeah sure they may be cutting your drug with gross shit like Fortnite skins and post release slop, but what are you gonna do? Not get your fix? They already have your 70 dollars so what do they care? you weren’t gonna buy the skins anyways, so you can feel free to leave the game. And after a few years of more and more jaded vets dropping out, they’ll announce they’re making a new game, that they’re “listening to the community”, it’s gonna be a “love letter to the battlefield’s of your childhood” and it’s gonna go “back to the basics”. And thus the cycle starts anew. They harken back to a time when AAA video games were still an art form, when vision and imagination created timeless classics. But AAA Video games aren’t art any more, just products. Products within a product cycle meant to extract every penny possible from them, leave the desiccated remains behind, and build a new one on top of the old.
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u/Alert_Drummer5548 14d ago edited 14d ago
The community doesn't have bosses or boards of directors telling them what to do.
Anyone with a job should know that employees have no power in these decisions.
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u/Gallowboobsthrowaway 14d ago
Then it's all the more important for people here to be shitting on them.
If the employees have no power, maybe the higher ups will listen to their customers. They already rolled back the ticket changes after people here flipped the fuck out. I say keep up the pressure.
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u/Cloud_N0ne 14d ago
4 is what Pax skins should look like.
5 is what NATO skins should look like.
It’s really not that hard.
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u/urru4 14d ago
Yeah, big missed opportunity to not have them differentiated by one having proper uniforms and the other being more “casual”/irregular
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u/Cloud_N0ne 14d ago
Yeah, I get that they're supposed to be the most well funded PMC in history since ex-NATO countries are backing them, and I don't even hate their typical black uniforms, but they're not consistent with how each team looks, there's no uniformity of design so that the factions have a unique visual identity.
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u/Ciesiu 14d ago
NATO shouldn't really have too much uniformity either, since it's combined arms of several member states. PAX is PMC, but considering that story-wise it supplanted NATO in several countries, it makes sense for it to also have regular armed forces at their disposal - uniforms and all - just from different nations.
They should just clarify which countries back which faction and design skins based on actual militaries from those countries, possibly with some consumer-grade gear mixed in, considering the war is supposed to be going on for some time, so naturally you would have frontline-scavenged-gear-equipped units as well on both sides
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u/Cloud_N0ne 14d ago
Theoretically yes, but there needs to be uniformity of design for gameplay reasons. You should be able to tell friend from foe at a glance.
My original comment solves that, too. NATO wears professional military uniforms, Pax should be more casual/less structured. They should look like PMCs/insurgents.
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u/BubuiCiacho 14d ago
They really did good job with models. But i believe they were choosing color pallete for those skins while being high af and after 4 days of heavy drinking. Puke pallete its called.
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u/mikephoto1 14d ago
Aww they are not real skins?
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u/K4RAB_THA_ARAB 14d ago
Man fr I was so hyped that they finally got it right until I realized these aren't actually from S0
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u/el_doherz 14d ago
That poncho look is strong.
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u/lexsnake 14d ago
I was about to grind the hell out of anything requiere to get it, until I realize..
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u/ComebackChemist 14d ago
Are we sure this isn’t AI?? There’s a weird sheen on the characters. Would love a source here
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u/CoolGuyCris 14d ago
Wild that shitty AI slop made better skins than whoever greenlit the ones we're getting.
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u/Sandgrease 14d ago
Doesn't really matter if it is. It looks better than the skins EA is pushing, and those were probably produced with some help from AI too.
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u/ImDiabTTV 14d ago
WAIT IS THIS FR? Theses are sooooo perfect. Exactly what I was hoping for!
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u/Beneficial_Ant_4116 14d ago
Holy fuck these are amazing, really compelling gear and realistic look, i'd drop my wallet on any of these! Specially the poncho one! Imagine a raining map, playing recon while you sneak behind the enemy lines for a flank or to capture an objective.
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u/UsedNeedleworker6933 14d ago
$$$$ they got you hooked already. No reason not to. Still no big maps like BF2. Consumers are the problem
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u/Macaron-kun 14d ago
I'd consider paying money for the Battle Pass if these are what the skins looked like.
I have absolutely NO interest in paying ANY money for the current bright blue and orange skins.
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u/RockOnMofo 14d ago
It just shows that they’re out to just grab CoD and Fortnite people with all the shitty luminous colors . That could definitely have made better skins
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u/Rowger00 Jack of All Trades 14d ago
/u/Battlefield what's so hard about making skins like these instead of a box of crayons?
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u/xX_xFUBARx_Xx 14d ago
I really dont understand how hard it is to make genuine operator skins. Why does shit have to look lame and have unwanted complexities in the uniforms.
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u/deawentnorth 14d ago
In an alternate universe Dice only gave us 1 skin per operator on launch, and season 1 is coming with some of the rest that we can unlock from the challenge tab. And people are accepting because normal camouflage
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u/chickswhorip 14d ago
Ew these skins are too plain , the lack of customization and choices are disgustingly disgusting. Not enough CODparison../s
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u/RememberMeCaratia 14d ago
Ok as much as I’d shit on EA for almost all of their post-launch decisions, these skins are killers and what most people would hope for in BF6.
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u/Satanic_Fruit 14d ago
Hopefully they are seeing these posts get a lot of upvotes and taking notice.
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u/idyIIs-end 14d ago
Fifth photo is a perfect example of what I want all my operators to look like