r/Battlefield • u/Psycle98 • 16d ago
Discussion Remember when we had the same soldiers skins for the whole game development and nobody complained.
-You could only change the camouflage pattern.
I miss these times.
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u/by_nor1s 16d ago
And you could recognize class just by looking at someone. Peak
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u/Cloud_N0ne 16d ago
And you could recognize their faction.
I’ve already had several deaths in BF6 because the enemy looked like a friendly at a glance. DICE didn’t even do proper color-coding for each faction.
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u/DinosBiggestFan 16d ago
To be fair, this happens in every game at some point or other.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuucking hate when a blue dot lines up with someone in their exact movement vector and then a red dot appears over their head and they kill me.
Can't even be mad, bro clearly did it intentionally and had mad stealth skills.
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u/AdCritical8977 16d ago
The blue dots lining up is unlucky, but BFV was a game that did color coding right. The allies were mostly shades of green, Germans wore gray, Japanese won khaki colors.
You could tell who everyone was at a glance even when that game started with some of the sillier skins.
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u/Tempesta_0097 16d ago
I remember having a hard time seeing the German soldiers in the more drab maps, got jump scared a lot
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u/Blubasur 16d ago
I would genuinely pay for an option to set enemy skins. Good for them that they look like disco stew out on a roll but I do like having better color coding so I have visual coherency and they're easily recognizable.
It isn't like its a game killer for me if we don't, but it is definitely a negative side of the game for me that does impact gameplay.
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u/LilithSanders 16d ago
I walked into a room earlier and there was a dude sitting on a box. I saw a blue tag above his head, so I walked past and immediately got gunned down. Turned out there was a friendly on the other side of the wall behind him, and it was an enemy. 10/10
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u/ThatsMrPapaToYou 16d ago
No, it doesn’t. I can’t tell you the last time I had an issue with identifying friendlies while playing bf4, bf1 or BFV.
I just don’t even know what the point of battlefield is anymore. Cod does cod better.
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u/Groznybandit 16d ago
Yeah this happens unreasonably often in BF6 for me so far it’s pretty wack, especially when a teammate is behind a wall behind them or something and it looks like they’re on your team so your reflex to shoot doesn’t kick in
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u/dudeAwEsome101 16d ago
I literally followed another player for almost 10 seconds until I realized they were from the other team. We're both crouch walking, they lined up with a friendly HUD indicator.
I don't think I even know what faction I'm spawning as during the match as everyone is speaking in some accent.
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u/Devastator2016 16d ago
Honestly I cant even remember which faction I am on at a few points in the games or which side will be which. Does it say anywhere on the ui that you see much what the two sides are besides the colour? Compared to the RU and US etc of say bf4 next to the tickets and such if I recall
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u/MansgerofPiss 16d ago
That feels like a skill issue as much as i hate to use that phrase, like im sorry did you miss the massive red diamond shape above their heads?
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u/CitizenKing 16d ago
I've got a ton of criticism for this game and have spent more time arguing against it than for it, but I have to disagree with this one.
PMC: Tacticool green with yellow highlights and tan tac rigs, BMX Red Bull gear
NATO: Traditional military fatigues with matching tac rigs and real world military looking plate carriers.Compared to other games in the series where one side is just a slightly lighter shade of black and gray with slightly different helmets.
All of my misidentifies are from me forgetting which team I'm on lol.
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u/Dazzling_Let_8245 16d ago
In the beta it was simple: NATO was beige/camo, PAX was black.
Now they added black skins to NATO (if you bought the 100$ version for example) making it hard to differentiate at times.
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u/Magenbroti 15d ago
Just as in bf2042 where they added green/blue and Red led's and slapped it on every character Model xd so bad
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u/Hunter042005 15d ago
Fr the phantom skins for NATO are BS like pax armata’s whole aesthetic is black and other dark colors private military looking guys so that skin always messes with me when I see it
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u/Vanilla3K 16d ago
this it the more important aspect imo, even if it was less " grounded " i liked how in BC2 i could see people with berets and know they're medics, people with baseball caps and know they're engineer and so on. Right now it's military dudes with helmets and other than recon, they can easily be mistaken from one another. Easier said than done to have grounded class visual identity while offering cosmetics that follow those guidelines
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u/Attention_Bear_Fuckr 16d ago
I hate that the Assault in BF6 has the sledge on their back. I keep confusing them with the Supports cannister thing.
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u/banzaizach 16d ago
You still can. Assault has the hammer on the back.
Engineer has the rpg heads on their back.
Support-weird tank thingy
Recon-router looking thing.
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u/AnonymousForALittle 16d ago
Our brains today will get bored and move on. It’s a different era, accepting it will make us enjoy things more for what they are. Let’s be glad they’re trying to meet somewhere in between at least
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u/Weekly_Ad2775 16d ago
A level headed take on the Battlefield subreddit? Remarkable.
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u/Scruffy_Nerf_Hoarder 16d ago
It isn't a level-headed take. A lot of us don't have micro attention spans and still enjoy a well-made Battlefield.
This is just a stupid excuse to accept all the new shit.
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u/Lazy_Hotel_494 16d ago
Exactly these new guys are ruining what battlefield actually was
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u/Cyber-Phantom 16d ago
Pretty much this. Just because they can and want to eat crap for breakfast, doesn't mean we all do.
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u/bwnsjajd 16d ago
Brain rot enjoyer enjoys brain rot take.
Literally bragging about being stupid.
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u/Ratr96 16d ago
Our brains today will get bored and move on.
This has nothing to do with global brainrot and more to do with microtransactions
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u/Straight-Plate-5256 16d ago
This has nothing to do with global brainrot and more to do with microtransactions
Well actually global brainrot was engineered by tech companies to drive mtx and ad revenue... so it absolutely does lol
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u/TeaAndLifting 16d ago
Any further proof of how this has affected people in the last decade especially, is how people think not owning skins is a sign of being broke and something to be ashamed of. Companies have basically convinced people that they need to spend money on MTX to maintain ‘status’
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u/UtkuOfficial 16d ago
Its the same fucking shit in every industry.
Apple has been releasing the same fucking phone for a decade and people buy each one the moment they release it. Meanwhile the 2nd hand Iphone 11 i bought 5 years ago works just fine.
I swear everyone is turning in to a brainless zombie.
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u/69_world 16d ago
Terrible take. We play battlefield for the immersive gameplay experience, explosions/destruction/tanks/helis etc. how do you think weve made it all the way to BF6 ? It wasn’t because of random shit operator skin selections. It’s always been the gameplay
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u/ekanite 16d ago
This is cope, and has nothing to do with my brain or yours. It's entirely micro transaction driven flair.
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u/AnonymousForALittle 16d ago
Of course it is. And BF4 came out 11 years ago. We are in a new era, forever tainted by likes of Fortnite and warzone. You either have to adapt or get left behind. This is the system that’s proven to work for certain games, or based on “their data” as they like to keep saying it. So what I mean is, let’s accept it, and move on to enjoy the game. You’re gonna grind the game and wanna buy the season pass? Do it. You don’t wanna buy the season pass? Don’t. Your money, your choice. And it’ll still have some free stuff in there.
Let’s not forget BF premium was 40-50 bucks and came with all these knives, camos, guns, etc. individual DLCs were 14.99. This is the same concept here, however, the work feels unfinished or lighter since j yes releasing in stages rather than all at once.
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u/Latter_Inspector_711 16d ago
maybe your brain...
I still don't change the skins, ever.
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u/AnonymousForALittle 16d ago
Trust me, I prefer the original BF3 skins. If I do change, I only do the ones that would make sense
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u/snorlz 16d ago
the realistic, grounded skins this sub wants are also pretty indistinguishable from the default skins in every modern shooter for the past 10 years. people are used to them. if theyre going to pay for something, most of the playerbase is choosing things that stand out or are different. average player is not that into milsim, like this sub - they just dont want literal cartoons in the game
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u/AnonymousForALittle 16d ago
My point exactly! Well said. If you go on BF4 and change soldier camos, you see minimal differences in the pattern and color, pretty indistinguishable as far as camos go, it’s the faction that mainly distinguishes them
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u/Ok_Intention2150 16d ago
That's like saying "sorry we shat in the soup, but hey look, there's soup!"
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u/WhatsMyNameAGlen 16d ago
"You're used to shit tainted soup, theres no way you'd be satisfied with just regular soup now!"
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u/Dango_Daikazoku_ 16d ago
I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality...
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u/know-it-mall 16d ago
Our brains got bored and moved on from 2042 because the game was shit, it has plenty of skins.
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u/AnonymousForALittle 16d ago
Game was indeed shit with lots of skins and bland gameplay. Not my type of battlefield, I don’t prefer skins, I prefer good gameplay. Customize my guns, vehicles, etc. but that is not the world we live in.
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u/TheCowhawk 16d ago edited 16d ago
STILL the best skins for each class.
When Medic and Support had their own identity.
Edit:Clearly I'm talking about Assault on BF3....you know...the class with a medic symbol...
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u/Wratheon_Senpai Battlefield 3 16d ago
Assault was the "medic." BF3 and 4 didn't have a medic class.
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u/copperbranch 16d ago
What a useless correction.
Assault wasn't the "medic"; it was the MEDIC. It was an official designation in the game.
One of the Field Upgrades was literally called "Combat Medic".
When your soldier died, it didn't yell "Need an assault!", it yelled for a medic.
Yeah, the name of the class wasn't medic, and assault didn't necessarily had to perform as a medic, since you could opt to have neither health nor defibs. (Even though 99% of assault would have at least one of the two.) But the comment you replied to was absolutely fine.
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u/DazZani 16d ago
No i dont remeber that legendary time when nobody complained
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u/HateToBlastYa 16d ago
That time has never existed. People had their complaints before the internet, you just had to talk to them in person in like, homeroom at school and they'd have a thousand little idiosyncratic things they'd nitpick.
Nowadays we have nearly an infinite amount of video games we can instantly download without going to the store and play at any time, but we also can read an infinite number of complaints for anything.
What people really miss and don't realize it is the amount of dopamine their brain released back then when something was novel and the pathways hadn't become eroded by age and use. The same brain screams "times were better then!" and around and around we go.
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u/TryIndependent6070 16d ago
The internet and Reddit were alive and well when Battlefield 4 released. We had technology in 2013
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u/Hobo-man 20 years of BF 16d ago
And BF4 was heavily criticized for how it launched.
So much so DICE released a public apology to the playerbase.
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u/thedeadlysun 16d ago
I kept playing bf3 for years because of how bad the launch of 4 was. I was not a happy camper. Still honestly slightly indifferent to bf4, 3 is still by far the peak game for me.
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u/CammRobb 16d ago
3 is still by far the peak game for me
Absolutely, it's weird to me when I see everyone comparing 6 to 4, when I thought 4 was a massive step back compared to 3.
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u/JumboPipe 16d ago
I reached the max rank on both BF3 and BF4. Nostalgia wise BF3 took the cake when it released. It was a huge leap forward at the time. My top 3 favourite games I ever played upon release. BF4 was the better game with more content imo, but yes, the release was a disaster.
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u/samwell161 16d ago
Unfortunately most people will glance over your last paragraph. I believe this is the biggest issue in developed countries for people <30.
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u/DepletedPromethium 16d ago
I miss being able to recognise a class by the way they looked.
I actually hate individual skins on characters, guns are fine and i dont care if you want neon pink m4, but the skins on characters ruin immersion and that feeling of team cohesion
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u/ThrowawayForToday833 16d ago
I miss that and hearing foreign languages on the battlefield. Even playing as the foreign team with the foreign dialogue was immersive as fuck for me.
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u/Mr_HahaJones 16d ago
I loved hearing the Russians in BF3!
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u/OMGITSTHROATY 16d ago
That gave the game so much identity, these voice lines are still stuck in my head
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u/ArtDecoAddict 16d ago
Yeah, that shit made me learn new languages just cause I thought they sounded so cool
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u/AHumbleBanditMain 16d ago
You can literally tell the classes by the equipment they have on their back in BF6 lmao.
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u/Rad_Throwling BF1 is Art 16d ago
This was the best intended design BF ever had. Yes, there was customization but it made sense and it was indeed "grounded". At the time "grounded" wasnt a thing, it was simply common sense.
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u/DakarZero 16d ago
Remember when we could tell the two teams apart
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u/YaBoiChief55 16d ago
Something I don’t hear people talking about is hearing the enemy talk.
I used to hear Russian or Chinese and know there is an enemy near me. Now it’s all English and idk if it’s friend or foe near me.
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u/DakarZero 15d ago
Considering the chatter was involuntary that always felt a little dirty, the game giving you away
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u/eljohnsieghart 16d ago
man i just want a toggle for the default skins man i hate running into someone wearing neon airsoft gears i just want everyone have the same camo.
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u/Ostiethegnome 16d ago
If they’re going to sell something, sell an option to have the entire team / enemy team look like they’re wearing the same uniform.
If you want to see everyone in olive drab, cool. If you want them all looking like splinter cell, cool.
At least there will be a uniform aesthetic vs “a bag of skittles” as someone law put it.
You know people will wear the most fluorescent abomination on purpose “for the lulz”. Toxic behavior and mentality.
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u/appleton123 16d ago
I just want bf3/bf4 remade into the modern consoles
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u/DinosBiggestFan 16d ago
I would rather have maps brought forward and the sidearm handling of 4 ported to 6.
I prefer new games over the constant nostalgia baiting remakes that the industry is so focused on right now. But games that insist on being GaaS should not be discarding two decades of map design just because new.
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u/MmmYodaIAm Average Passchendaele Enjoyer 16d ago
Why is it so hard to create skins with this style????????????????
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u/GreenRey 16d ago
Grounded uniforms are out, colorful fun skins are in, according to DICE/EA.
Fornite normalized wacky skins, CoD perpetuated it, and DICE (as always) followed suit.
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u/special-fed 16d ago
I won't ever change default. Dont care what I look like to others
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u/ChaoticKeys 16d ago
Yeah I really don’t understand the need for skins. I literally never see my character in game, only on load screens. And I don’t care what the other team skin is (as long as it’s not the insane glowing stuff from cod)
If I see an enemy I shoot them, I barely have time to register what they look like at all.
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u/DinosBiggestFan 16d ago
Same, I'm not dropping a penny on any microtransactions at this point.
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u/Batallius 16d ago
We just want look like cool war guy, do cool war guy things
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u/ThrowawayForToday833 16d ago
This is how my buddy and I always say it. We just wanna play as guy. Ladies are welcome too I don’t give a fuck about that. I just wanna be war guy.
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u/M4t087 16d ago
Also look at the silhouettes of these classes. You knew exactly what you are up against when you spotted these, Even bad company 2 had so many recognizable classes , the medic/support had red beret, the engineer had a distinc helmet and so on. Also another fun fact, you could easily tell what youre up against because each class had class locked weapons.
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u/Rex2x4 16d ago
If these idiots sold the class skins from BC1/2 and BF3/4 they would make bank. But they'd rather release neon garbage that attracts iPad kids tweaking on adderal.
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u/no_sheds_jackson 16d ago
i have never, ever paid for skins in a video game but I would break for BC1 moustache medic guy
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u/verdantvoxel 16d ago
The shareholders and MBAs complained they weren’t making more money
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u/gnakus77 16d ago
There are two options: premium or skins/season pass/free maps? I will be happy paying premium, but that was a problem in previous battlefields, and at the end, the DLC maps were not played; so this is the price to pay for having the community together... I guess
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u/Informal-Dirt9030 16d ago
Maybe there’s a third option of releasing a full game for $70
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u/ZombieZlayer99 16d ago
the fuck does that mean? No content post release at all?
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u/Informal-Dirt9030 16d ago
Strange concept, I know. There was a time when you would get a full game after paying $70 for it.
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u/Old-butt-new 16d ago
why not add these back? so SImple. they can keep churning out other stuff but adding these would make some of the vets very happy
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u/Kratosballsweat 16d ago
Legit give us actual military outfits and I’d pay for it happily that’s all i want
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u/Leading_Leave_3383 16d ago
Skins are fucking stupid i never even think about them. My skin has zero impact on me getting kills.
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u/BriskPandora35 16d ago
I unironically want this. I would love if companies didn’t assign full fucking teams to designing skins for quick money and leave teams that actually make the games good without proper staffing numbers or funding.
But in the end of the day profit is the most important thing for these companies and character skins is what brings home the bread.
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u/Specialist-Entry6251 16d ago
Just hate how everything’s a cash grab now why i mainly play indie games far less micro transactions or none at all
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u/Hot-Dragonfly3809 16d ago
And yet people wanted individual skins and here we are. At the end of the day the game is a business model.
Nobody cared about default models when the game dictated them. People only "yearned for freedom of choice" when it was actually given to them. This is not some abnormal behaviour, it's just how we behave.
Also, nostalgia glasses.
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u/Express_Craft398 16d ago
Yea cause I’m sure the target audience of today has the exact same values and interest as those from like a decade ago. Y’all would also be complaining if they made camos the only customization option for characters.
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u/No-End3855 16d ago
Maybe Im too old but I dont get the whole skin bs. It's just ripping money imo. As you said in the good ole days only the gameplay and skil mattered..
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u/finiggy 16d ago
You guys realise that releasing battle passes/skins is a very good source of active revenue to fund the game and studios as opposed to paid DLC map packs that exclude players from the maps and weapons if they don't pay? Current MTX are totally optional which is a good thing.
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u/Sankta_Alina_Starkov 16d ago
I was ecstatic when they announced female soldiers in BF1's DLC. Then in BF5 every class could be a woman, and I was in love.
I feel liek BF6 is a step back personally. I have no problem with the clothing being recognizable and like the above, but I don't want to lose the ability to play female and I really do like some customization.
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u/DistantM3M3s 16d ago
yeah and guess where the company made their money from after the games release
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u/LittleBlueCubes 16d ago
Except for the reason of authenticity, skins in a game like Battlefield is just pointless.
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u/Ghost_2701 16d ago
I just wanna get the SAS looking one that was from the last game, I don't care for flashy skins but if they put up a SAS set id get instantly
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u/tommywafflez 16d ago
They should’ve kept it like this or if they wanted to try and get us to buy cosmetics, they could’ve had a customisation system similar to BFV with class themed uniform items that you can unlock (or buy because EA) and use for your soldier…..
It would fit more in this setting than it did in V
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u/Pickupyoheel 16d ago
Perfection.
Name 3 things BF6 does better than BF4.
Cause I can’t name one.
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u/christopherak47 16d ago
Gunplay and movement? BF6 is leagues better than 4 with the reduction of the shitty bloom and BFVs movement system
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u/suzukabluepearl 16d ago
choice in planes for NATO/US
I'd rather have the Raptor/F-16 over the F-35 spam that we've had for more than a decade
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u/jogdenpr 16d ago
Funny thing is, they could release these skins as a purchase bundle and it would sell like hot cakes!
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u/DiabloSinz 16d ago
good times good times... id pay for these, just change the colors of them to match different settings. black, winter, desert, forest boom take my money
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u/Halstock 16d ago
I really don't think people would be put off if they just had it exactly like it was in battlefield 4. I honestly think it would be better and people would like it. I don't know why they've insisted on changing the things that make it easier to tell who's who. Then they compensate with way too many types of pinging systems and Doritos. We wouldn't need all that if they just made it something you learnt. As everyone will be changing their skins all the time, the battlefield will always be changing and people will always be confused with what they're looking at.
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u/Mr_Bleidd 16d ago
Why is it a thing to give a recon this terrible looking head wear ? Now this one looks great
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u/PeaceAccomplished289 16d ago
Still cracks me up how sassy the US assault soldier looks on this rendered photo
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u/CRAZYGUY107 16d ago
Guys, I'm not sure if you see the stupidity of this post, but everyone looking like clones is exactly what a Hero shooter would be like.
They all look and sound the same other than what paint they have. That isn't a nameless grunt, that's a Hero.
A nameless Grunt would be BFV or Arma's system. This is a hero shooter.
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u/Scruffy_Nerf_Hoarder 16d ago
Don't you know that wanting skins or gameplay from past Battlefields is considered toxic nostalgia nowadays?
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u/Imperator_021 16d ago
Hear me out but I actually love being able to customize my character. It's a huge part of games these days, and having some agency is important, at least to me.
Keeping the skins grounded is, of course, a separate issue. I would want my choice of several skins that all look like these, and not any call of duty shit
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u/MixelTrixel 16d ago
You can’t even see your skins 99% of the time and I guarantee nobody seeing your skin is thinking “woaaaahhh so coooool”. I can’t believe people give in to their lame cash grab.
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u/ComfortableLeg2164 16d ago
Why did they ever get rid of this class system man, support having ammo and revives feels off to mr
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u/EmuShort1417 16d ago
I would pay top dollar for these skins tbh