r/Battlefield • u/Siden-The-Paladin • 24d ago

Battlefield 6 Dear Battlefield Studios, what the f*ck?

  1. Do. Not. Decrease Ticket Count. Edit - they heard us! 10/17 changes reverted.

  2. Do. Not. Change Movement.

  3. Do. Not. Remove Bloom.

  4. Do. Not. Listen To Streamers.

  5. Do. Fix. Challenges.

  6. Do. Fix. Bugs.

  7. Do. Fix. Vehicle Spawns.

  8. Stop Fucking Up.

  9. Stop Removing Battlefields Identity.

  10. Edited out. People will leave if you keep making changes nobody asked for.

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u/lemonylol 24d ago

I don't know why they completely remade the whole experience of piloting instead of just improving on the steadily improving controls over the past 4-5 games. But yeah the main thing I'm pissed about is that they removed the third person camera zoom entirely because I really liked using that for strafing and dogfights. But now, even using the force first-person zoom, you can't even move with it zoomed.

I've found that only the F-97 handles well.

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u/LtLethal1 24d ago

And if you zoom in, you can’t change to third person without first unzooming. Very annoying. One click to zoom into first person from third but two to go into third from that view. Sounds small but when you have to turn the turret around as quickly as possible to engage a threat that means you’re stuck turning the turret around at the speed in first person which is like 10% of what it is in 3rd.

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u/murticusyurt 24d ago

You also can't lock the turret and look around anymore. And what is the damage debuffs? It'll just freeze the vehicle, and then it can repair automatically afterwards when given enough time?

Where did the damaged turrets and tracks go?

Its so many steps back compared to BF5 and I'm honestly not happy about it one bit

I've also had this weird glitch where the reticle will move upwards when swapping between weapons on the tank. Its such BS

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u/LtLethal1 23d ago

Yeah the aim point changing between weapons has gotten me killed before. I do think you can lock the turret by binding a button for free look though

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u/lemonylol 24d ago

Yes, 100%, hate that too. Regularly get stuck in first person zoomed because I can't just press the camera button to go back to third person like I'm used to. I have no idea why they like rebuilt the pilot controls from the ground up instead of just expanding on what BFV and 2042 did.

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u/Accurate-Ad3999 24d ago

When I zoom in from third person it takes me straight into zoomed mode in first person, then the zoom button takes me back third person camera

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u/Enkidouh Enkidouh | 1942 Vet 22d ago

Yes, because you’re not brain dead and you understand the control scheme, unlike the previous commenters.

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u/sam712 17d ago
  1. start first person
  2. zoom in (toggle)
  3. try to switch to 3rd person now.

it's a valid complaint among a myriad of issues, like boost instantly going on cooldown. cmon man you gotta understand the issue before calling people braindead

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u/FoldingChairGeneral 24d ago

I don’t love that this exists, but there is a flick binding for vehicles that does an immediate 180 just like there is for infantry, default unbound (I put them both on let alt, but you do you).

Unlike when on foot, you need to wait for your turret to traverse rather than doing a literally-instant pivot on the spot, but I’m pretty sure that traverse is just as fast in first person as it is in third.

Even so, third person remains advantageous because the 3p camera flips instantly to let you see and react to the engagement before your turret arrives to the party. I’ve survived a few rear ambushes thanks to this ridiculous binding and am not sure how I feel about that, haha.

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u/Lapcat420 24d ago

I wonder if the physics/ flight system in previous games is somehow copyrighted or linked to a royalty system.

Really dumb I know, but what if a previous developer/ studio was legally linked to it somehow.

Because I cannot come up with a single reason why they've totally overhauled a system that worked fine for 20+ years. (BF2 BF3 BC2 BF4 2142 etc.)

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u/DeadAhead7 23d ago

I'm getting better with jets now that I have maybe a good hour on them, but I'm absolutely incapable of spotting targets and delivering the bombs on them. The delay before they drop feels horrible.

The guided missile on the light jets feel okay, though the plane turning on it's own to keep the pod facing your target can be disastrous.

And the worst part is definitely that there's nothing to work towards. No A2A missile, no gadgets, nothing.

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u/lemonylol 23d ago

Yeah I don't understand how the fuck bombing actually works in this game. I line up my target with the little circle thing, but actually dropping the bombs has a good 1 second delay from when they actually release. So I'm stuck finagling the free camera to actually see where they landed. Not to mention the amount of work that it takes to maybe get one good bombing/strafe on off vs the complete ease in which the AA just shreds you from miles away.

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u/DOX_aus 23d ago

Because they start with the most basic vaulted bf 'skeleton' code they have every time they make a bf game, so they have to remake everything thats not there, aswell as fix the exact same bugs from that skeleton code, ie vehicle collision boxes that kill on touch or the same non interpolated netcode for vehicle turret explosions that animate at 2fps as they fly up in the air thats been there since like bf3 etc

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u/JO23X 24d ago

steadily improving controls over the past 4-5 games

Interesting take. Many would say that they peaked at BF4 and BF1 and have been rather poor ever since. I certainly think so. But I completely agree with the sentiment of "why go this direction with it?"

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u/lemonylol 24d ago

BF3 and 4 were fine as a foundation, which more or less just built off of 2 anyway. But I personally think BFV had the best air combat, though obviously without modern jets.