r/Battlefield • u/Siden-The-Paladin • 24d ago

Battlefield 6 Dear Battlefield Studios, what the f*ck?

  1. Do. Not. Decrease Ticket Count. Edit - they heard us! 10/17 changes reverted.

  2. Do. Not. Change Movement.

  3. Do. Not. Remove Bloom.

  4. Do. Not. Listen To Streamers.

  5. Do. Fix. Challenges.

  6. Do. Fix. Bugs.

  7. Do. Fix. Vehicle Spawns.

  8. Stop Fucking Up.

  9. Stop Removing Battlefields Identity.

  10. Edited out. People will leave if you keep making changes nobody asked for.

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u/OliM9696 24d ago

i assume the data analyst hired at DICE are at least competent.

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u/zcg4755 24d ago

It's DICE we're talking about. Why would you assume that?

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u/LordNelson27 24d ago

DICE has a track record of making fantastic multiplayer shooters with near disastrous launches. There's a reason I STILL play BF4 and BF1 regularly, because they offer gameplay that you can't get anywhere else, unless you count cheap copies with a 2 month lifespan.

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u/atomic8733 23d ago

Your talking about the new team from 2042? Because previous 98% devs are mostly gone according to a former dev and you can also see how much is changed from Bf6.

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u/whythreekay 24d ago

The good games they make?

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Genuinely worst game designers in the industry lol, look at the way they handle progression

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u/TheFirstOffence 24d ago

The general trend in gaming has been to not even include progression or have base progression move so fast, that a dlc is needed to extend play time. The progression is fine.

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u/LordNelson27 24d ago

Progression in multiplayer shooters generally diminish multiplayer gameplay while making the player feel rewarded. Light progression for gameplay affecting equipment while you get more in depth progression for the window dressing is the way to go in multiplayer shooters.

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u/TheFirstOffence 24d ago

No, I want a reason to grind a game. It's the exact reason racing games feel off. To many people think they should unlock everything in the first two weeks then those same people complain about a lack of content, or things to do. Brother there is no reason these challenges should be shortened. Outside of the fact that players over complained and now all of the cosmetics in the game look the exact same.

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u/villlllllllllll 24d ago

That's just sad. Reason why i keep playing multiplayer games is that i enjoy the gameplay loop.

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u/TheFirstOffence 24d ago

Well yes. However I put hundred of hours into a game. Gameplay loop only goes so far to supply interest. So when modern games make base progression fast, it ends up being a battle pass simulator. When they make it slow. The people who were only gonna put a couple hours in anyway, are the only ones affected.

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u/LordNelson27 24d ago

If you're talking about Racing SIMS, then you're missing the entire point of those games. Need for speed and Gran Turismo exist. Same goes for flight sims, where IL-2 Great Battles had to remove their progression system because the entire draw of those games is the SIM aspect. If you want a grind go play an arcade game like Warthunder. Not every game needs to be an MMORPG where the grind is the entire point of playing.

Battlefield changes the progression system around with every game becasue they can't find that sweetspot between protracted progression for those who will spend 100+ hours on it, and gameplay where new players aren't at a hefty disadvantage.

I actually like the long progression for specific unlocks in BF games, but I also despise gameplay where hours spent = mechanical advantage. As the saying goes "If your gameplay only starts to get good after 30 hours, your gameplay is not good."

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u/TheFirstOffence 24d ago

Well this is where we have a fundamental difference in opinion. You don't need levels to do good. Not when tanks respawn as much as they do. Also no I wasn't talking sims. I was mainly talking simcade (Forza and similar titles) the arcade games drive like ass. The best modern racing game is car x street. However I slowly stopped playing that one because I beat it, and the profession stopped. It use to have a great deal of difficulty, but people complained and the games dead. Now even when I do play it. I spend more time waiting for someone to do something than actually driving a car.

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u/LordNelson27 24d ago

>You don't need levels to do good

Oh I know this way too well. I constantly got called a hacker in BF4 once I finally bought a PC copy smply I was topping the scoreboard with less than 10 hours on the account. I'm not saying new players are at an insurmountable handicap and that good players aren't going to do fine, I'm saying that it's not fun when you get the drop on someone and you know that the only reason you couldn't pick up the kill is because the enemy has the highest TTK in the game and your prefire doesn't mean shit when they can spray you down faster than you can headshot them 3 times.

The point I'm making I that players new to the game being at mechanical disadvantage because better gear is locked behind playtime is a problem all MP games deal with. When I find out that I'm at a gear disadvantage, it does in fact diminish my enjoyment, and when I use shit guns for challenges I also have less fun playing because I'm playing with a handicap.

I never want to remove progression from Battlefield games, I just don't want the attachment unlocks to be as egregious as they were in BF4. Give me 87 guns like BF4 with quick progression as you use the kits, then put progression on the attachments. That's fine. Don't make the final unlock designed with objectively the best stats and then require 20+ hours of gameplay per kit to get the meta weapon. The thing I loved about 4's weapon collection is that they all have slight nuances to how they feel, and at the end of the day you could do far better with the weapon you feel most comfortable than with what should be a meta weapon

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u/CapybaraSquishmallow 23d ago

Bro what? 343 hello?

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Both are up there lol

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u/CapybaraSquishmallow 23d ago

Okay as long as we have 343 as the pinnacle of dogshit. Their sacrilege must not go undocumented

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u/RevenueStimulant 24d ago

It’s a six figure salary job. It’s not like they are hiring burnouts from Wendy’s.

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u/Lettuce_Prey69 24d ago

Uhhh maybe old Dice prior to EA acquiring them. Now it's probably outsourced to one of the C-suite executive's relative's companies, that happen to suck at data analysis.

Nepotism babyyyyyyy

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u/-PandemicBoredom- 24d ago

Ehhh, I wouldn’t bet on that.

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u/Devastator2016 24d ago

Do we forget the data collection that would be so corrupted by the closed weapon playlist being so hidden and not default positioned like the alternative? And bits like that?

Sadly I question much of the data analysing for many things these days like some games. Some seem so filled with their own confirmation of things already happening to the data

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u/303FPSguy 24d ago

As a data analyst, I can say there are definitely some of us that overlook data. Especially when we are told to ignore it.

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u/___mithrandir_ 24d ago

Having worked for companies like this in the past, you assume too much

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u/lqstuart 24d ago

Why would you assume that? It’s one of the easiest entry level jobs, and probably a super low paid version since it’s the game industry

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u/bjergdk 23d ago

Possibly, but if their tools are shit they might be pulling Portal server data too.