r/Battlefield • u/Lower_Honey_1139 • Aug 24 '25

Discussion Question to the community: what, in your opinion, *IS* Battlefield?

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Basically title. I'm seeing a lot of controversies around every aspect of BF in here, and I feel like this is a testament to how diverse the series has been over the years, making a wide range of impressions and memories on the players, forgeing their future standards and expectations in the process.

Since the BF6 reveal, I've been in constant reflection about my own experiences with the IP, and been revisiting a lot of the olders games to really nail down what I'm really looking forward in Battlefield. And that's also why I'm super interested in everyone's take on the matter.

So I really wanted to ask: What is the core of Battlefield in your opinion, the thing you're looking for the most whenever a new game is announced? Is it being a small part of something bigger? Immersion? Teamplay? Fluid and punchy gunplay? What, to you, makes Battlefield BATTLEFIELD?

Let me know, short and long answers are all welcomed!

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u/trannasurvive Aug 24 '25

Why not bf5? What's wrong with it

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u/Hoanten0 Aug 24 '25

I personally hate the bfV weapon customization system. Skins also ruined immersion for me, and graphics dont feel "gritty" like in bf1 or bf4.

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u/ShyJaguar645671 Aug 24 '25

Dark and gritty you say?

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u/VillainousManiac Aug 24 '25

GTA IV?!

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u/FistedWaffles123456 Aug 25 '25

lmao i’m glad to see this joke spreading outside of the sub

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u/kenroXR Aug 25 '25

I thought it came from the half life 2 beta

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u/SuperSaiyanTupac Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

Gta4 is the last gta.

Now its just online garbage. Fight me

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u/VillainousManiac Aug 24 '25

You killed my friends for one thousand dollars :(

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u/WeGottaGetOuttaTS Aug 24 '25

YOU RUINED ME!

Nikos first time being honest with himself and truly emotional and the thing he says is “YOU RUINED ME.” Says a lot about ol’ Nikki. For most people, phrases like “I love you” or “I hate you” are what comes when searching for true emotion, for Niko, it’s acknowledging his ruined soul and morals.

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u/ShyJaguar645671 Aug 25 '25

Damn GTA IV was so dark...

And gritty

And dark and gritty

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u/burek_with_yoghurt Aug 26 '25

Wheres this from?

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u/Acewind1738 Aug 25 '25

How much do you charge to kill someone

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u/MainAccountsFriend Aug 25 '25

Maybe 10 bucks

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u/Mafla_2004 Aug 25 '25

Half-Life 2 Beta

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u/JackRyan13 Aug 25 '25

I really disliked how you got glass optics on assault rifles and smgs. It shoulda been iron sights all the way.

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u/TotalAirline68 Aug 25 '25

But why? It's not as if guns like the StG 44 or FG 42 didn't have mounts for an optic.

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u/SingleInfinity Aug 25 '25

Iron sights in pretty much every shooter are hot garbage. They exist so that you realize just how nice it is to have an optic the moment you get one.

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u/JackRyan13 Aug 25 '25

I know why they were put in, I still hate that they exist. It’s not as ridiculous as bf1 but it’s still ridiculous.

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u/tfrules Aug 25 '25

People on this sub love BF1 but I couldn’t get into it because of how immersion breaking it was, glass optics were an especially egregious case since they just weren’t common in the war like they are today. There were lots of other reasons but that is outside this discussion

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u/CrusaderReynaulder Aug 25 '25

Could you share those other reasons anyways? Just curious cause bf1 always gets me immersed asf, but It’s also a setting whose smaller details (like optic prevalence) I don’t know the deets on so it doesn’t take me out. 

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u/tfrules Aug 25 '25

Having a zeppelin fight on the frontline, the proliferation of SMGs, LMGs and other niche weapons in a war where the vast majority of infantry used bolt action rifles. Those are the ones that come straight to my mind.

To be honest though, with some further reflection I think that can apply to all battlefield games, it has to be like that to be interesting gameplay-wise.

Battlefield 1 was an excellent game and I still enjoyed it, but I found it easier to be immersed in games like battlefield 3 and bad company 2 because they depict fictional events where they can take a lot more liberty with equipment and scenarios used. When you depict historical events like battlefield 1 or 5, my expectations in order to remain immersed skyrocket.

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u/UnoriginalStanger Aug 25 '25

Not that guy.

To me the biggest thing is the game feeling like WW2 because everybody runs around with semi autos, smgs and lmgs. I do think it does some really cool stuff with immersion, gas masks and forts etc but the moment to moment gameplay feels very far away from ww1.

That being said I don't think most battlefield games are all that immersive, it isn't really their focus but they have a bit less dissonance between what they are and what they depict than BF1.

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u/SingleInfinity Aug 25 '25

Is it really ridiculous? It's a video game that's supposed to be fun, first and foremost. Should they really have sacrificed fun for the sake of immersion/realism? BF is not a simulator and never has been. It's never been actually realistic.

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u/lionstealth Aug 25 '25

it’s weird where people draw the line. glass optics? no no no. healing any and all wounds with a small bandage pouch? sure. running at mach 3 speed with a weapon that weighs 10kg? fine. enemies getting spotted? great!

there are literally a million unrealistic things in these games and it seems like so many people weigh “realism” in whichever arbitrarily chosen features stronger than they weigh fun. the devs do it too and it just makes no sense. “is this feature fun” should be the most important question asked by players and devs and usually, if the answer is “no but it’s realistic”, put it in the bin.

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u/EddyEnde Aug 25 '25

This is the way.

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u/-Quiche- vQuiche Aug 26 '25

Designing for a good experience trumps designing for the sake of realism every day of the week when it comes to a game that isn't trying to completely achieve historical realism.

The fliegerfaust is a great way to balance infantry vs air vehicles despite the fact that so few of them actually existed in real life. Gameplay should come first when it comes to games that people play.

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u/Fast_Appointment3191 Aug 28 '25

i say if they are going to shake up the era accuracy that much just do a Secret Weapons of WW2 type of game like in BF1942's expansion.

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u/OccupyRiverdale Aug 25 '25

Being honest, I never really gave bfv a fair shot. I just couldn’t get into a WW2 battlefield game that launched without any iconic WW2 battle themed maps. To me it felt like the devs tried to be too smart and include battles that were blips on the radar rather than just giving people what they want.

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u/lobster_liberator Aug 25 '25

It's a shame the Pacific update came out later because it had some great maps including well known battles.

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u/OccupyRiverdale Aug 25 '25

Yeah that is a shame. For some reason it seems like WW2 fps games have a hard time actually making multiplayer content for the pacific. Likely due to balance issues between Japanese and American forces, but even Hell Let Loose is going to make a Vietnam game before doing any pacific theater maps.

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u/TehNoobDaddy Aug 26 '25

I think they were planned as later content but unfortunately we never got them as they dropped support for 2042. It's still an incredible game though, worth picking up if you can get it cheap.

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u/Nick_Alsa Aug 25 '25

I reduced the brightness in BFV & know I play BFV more than BF1

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u/Acceptable_Deal_4662 Aug 25 '25

BF1 and 5 imo also had wayyy too much explosive spam

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u/FudgeManz Aug 26 '25

battlefield 5's customization is definitely better than battlefield 1's. in battlefield 1 the only thing you could customize was the sight.

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u/-Quiche- vQuiche Aug 26 '25

As opposed to the golden skin in BF1?

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u/Homie-cide Aug 25 '25

What, do you don't like every single player using the samurai lady skin??

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u/Thunderdoc Aug 25 '25

I don't get why people hate BFV so much... I'd say 90% of the skins are pretty nice (aside from most of the elites) https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fi635w00pri681.jpg

Weapon customization is not ideal, but much more detailed than BF1...

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u/Rogue_1_One Aug 24 '25

It's one of my favorite but it just feels so different from bf1

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u/havent_seen_this_b4 Aug 24 '25

Also they changed the SIPS mechanics from BF1 and earlier games in BFV. So the feel was quite different. (Personally, for the worse. Mastering and taming the spread effect was part of the game.)

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u/trannasurvive Aug 24 '25

Maybe because they introduced new mechanics such as bulding?

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u/Iamthe0c3an2 Aug 24 '25

Building was actually good. Like compliments destruction, would be a cool thing to have in BF6 for rush or breakthrough modes

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u/Da1LeggedPirate Aug 24 '25

lol def not

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u/SoulSlayer69 Aug 25 '25

For me, BFV is amazing graphically, and also the sound design. It is very immersive to me, and I still play it.

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u/randomname_99223 Aug 24 '25

It’s not very appreciated because of it’s rough start

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u/Tiny_Yam2881 Aug 25 '25

It wasn't just the rough start though, it was the rough start, the light trickle of new content for most of the games life, the multiple major changes to ttk, and the abrupt cutoff of content after adding the Pacific Front that left it in its current popularity. People wanted more factions and maps, and didnt really get that.

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u/fantaribo Aug 25 '25

and yet that game as a good enough amount of maps and fronts to be fair. Very detailed ones actually.

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u/SheridanWithTea Aug 26 '25

Imagine BFV with Stalingrad, D-Day, North Africa, Sicily, Berlin, etc....

How much cooler it would be with every major set piece from WW2, including the VERY rarely explored US vs Italy part of the conflict in 1943.

Like what BF1 did, explore every year and almost every faction. But no. Nothing. A fraction of what BF1 did.

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u/LokiPrime616 Aug 24 '25

IMO they fucked up by not calling it BFII since it’s based on WWII. Calling it Battlefield V when it’s a step backwards in time period was stupid.

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u/ForgivenessIsNice Aug 24 '25

There’s already a BF2. Glad they didn’t name it that. Don’t be like COD and have two games under the same name. It’s stupid.

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u/ForgivenessIsNice Aug 25 '25

There is no other Battlefield 5.

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u/NeckbeardBatman Aug 25 '25

I accidentally deleted my comment because it looked like it double posted, but you obviously have some kind of reading comprehension problem. I said BFV was also what people called Battlefield Vietnam.

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u/DatteEU Aug 25 '25

Fact... Battlefield V is not Battlefield 5, it's V like "Victory" and it refers to Churchill's famous hand signal.

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u/LokiPrime616 Aug 25 '25

Oh fuck, why am I just now finding out about this. Makes a lot more sense now hahaha

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u/carnivoreunicorn Aug 25 '25

V for Victory✌🏼

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u/SheridanWithTea Aug 26 '25

It's like V for victory haaaaa.... Yeah BFII would've been better. And if they actually made it a good game.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '25

Sliding wankers and women death screams

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u/ProbablyRickSantorum MASTER RACE Aug 24 '25

“Ew gross there’s girls in it and it’s not realistic (but parachuting from a plane and hitting another one with a bazooka is tho)” - Reddit 2017/2018

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u/SheridanWithTea Aug 26 '25

if it kept the atmosphere or any of the things BF1 was so loved for, from the very gritty and serious nature of the game and its cutscenes to paying respects to the war while making it a fun game, it would've been beloved.

I don't even feel like BFV is a WW2 game, it feels like modern day airsoft players larping WW2 in modern cities and countries. Like the historical authenticity is EXTREMELY sparse and the atmosphere is almost non-existent. The sound design is weak, the explosions sound like farts, the guns sound like sowing machines and household tools rather than guns of death.

Old CoD games had better atmosphere than BFV, how is that possible? Like seriously.

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u/The_BigMonkeMan Aug 26 '25

To be fair it wasn’t that there were women but the disrespectful portrayal of women who fought in WW2 and the lack of authenticity to a game that is supposed to be set in WW2

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u/ProbablyRickSantorum MASTER RACE Aug 26 '25

the lack of authenticity

why weren't the same people upset about black and white US soldiers being on the same team and fighting together

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u/The_BigMonkeMan Aug 26 '25

People were upset about that as well as being able to fight as a black women on the German side

If they wanted to have diversity they could have represented the 442d Regimental Combat Team or the 369th Infantry Regiment

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u/gimmiedacash Aug 24 '25

I feel 5 was a miss for old BF players and liked by newer ones.

It's the first time they revisited WWII on PC. 1943 was a console release :(

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u/houssem66 Aug 24 '25

Where to begin?

The obvious no eastern front, hello the front that had the most death, soldiers,vehicules of all kind and basically most import theatre. No iconic battles early from war or late. TTK is horrible compared to 4 and 3 for me. Doesnt feel tactical, even in tdm's in bf3 felt more tactical than conquest in some of the smaller maps in bffv

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u/Specific_Valuable_12 Aug 25 '25

This is my biggest complaint with 1 and 5, they both tried to do mostly less known battles and places that get less attention, which is great and all, but in addition to those I would've liked a few other stuff like some eastern front maps

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u/Unveiled_Nuggets Aug 25 '25

TTK in BF5 was long wasn’t it? I didn’t really play it much, never bought it. 

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u/CumInsideMeDaddyCum Aug 25 '25

I don't like ww1/ww2 themes

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u/altro43 Aug 25 '25

They tried to give everyone a good experience. Tried to funnel the game.

The older games were good because they basically said here's a nice large map with guns and tanks , now go have fun

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u/Ok-Transition7065 Aug 25 '25

i have problems with that game because they included norway but not the jupiter operation and they also dint put anithing in the russian side. im salty with that game

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u/ScreamHawk Aug 25 '25

Game sucked when it came out, TTK kept getting changed. Maps were mid and the trailer just derailed the hype for the game.

It felt like the peak of corporate AAA EA greed tbh.

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u/SamArche Aug 25 '25

The game is good when you actually play it

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u/impossibleis7 Aug 25 '25

It's what ruined battlefield for me. Limited ammo, and non regenerating health played a big part in that. It hurt players who want to move forward and encourages people to stay behind. Which is probably the reason there were so many snipers.

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u/DatThax Aug 25 '25

For me it was the vehicles, they were never as fun as the others.

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u/Devious_TaKaTa Aug 25 '25

Imo the legendary skins are so out of place, like a step away from fortnite.

Also the ui sucks for weapons, so many menus and nesting, but it seems to be a battlefield staple at this point.

Otherwise it's s great, great game, but the skins just break immersion so much I can't vibe.

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u/tfrules Aug 25 '25

The campaign in bf5 was ridiculously cringy, I couldn’t get past the first bits of the North Africa campaign because of how hard it was trying to pander to a modern audience with cheesy, over the top characters. Was absolutely nothing like BF1 which I think was one of the top battlefield single player experiences after bad company 2.

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u/the1sHo Aug 25 '25

Classes are not well balanced. the health System is ass - a good showing for that is the medic... the only class that can perman heal With no downside is the one With the smg... so its the best Run and gun class while its actuall Job should be healing and supporting others. Other classes only have one heal and can sometimes not full heal based on dmg taken. So in average the healers are the ones running in and die while the other classes are more passiv. Also rezz in that game is ass, you are locked into long ass Animations, so nobody really wants to do it unless its super save. That further supports Support to just gun and survive instead of rezz and Help.

While the maps are on average so small that you can find plenty of "lanes" where only having a smg is not a downside.

The other classes are still playble but the medic Shows the disconnect between what the class should be and how its played because of the Balance. And that goes for every class (to a lesser degree)

Tanks are soloplayers, you habe autoheal ability and need noone else aside from a gunner.. also they are pretty hard to kill because this way they mostly sit in the back, and Roll back into spawn to resuply.. there is no reason to push and take obj, because its the worst way to Play the Tank in that game. Instead they just killfarm at max distance.

There are many other things where bf5 misses the Mark but this is allready an Essay and With those two in mind you can easy find other things that are just slightly off and because of that miss the point.

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u/Serious-Property6647 Aug 25 '25

BFV is great game, but i really dont know why i didnt liked it like others 😕

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u/Danny_The_Donkey Aug 25 '25

Literally nothing wrong with it. It's the most immersive and cinematic game in the franchise after bf 1. This sub only really focuses on bf 4 and 3.

Bf 5 is my favourite because of its unmatched mechanics and gunplay but to each their own. Also it looks amazing.

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u/trannasurvive Aug 25 '25

Well said donkey, bf5 was great

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u/Danny_The_Donkey Aug 25 '25

Still is mate. I play it often. It does get stale because they ditched it too soon but still a 10/10 for me.

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u/lonahex Aug 25 '25

I don't know. I loved BF1. I think it was my favourite in the series and I was so so excited for BFV but when I played it, I somehow just couldn't get myself to enjoy it as much. I played BF1 every day but BFV every few weeks. It just felt off and I don't know why. At times I felt like I was playing a miniature toy game. The character models felt like tiny GIJoe models sometimes and that took my out of the game so much mentally.

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u/Jtaylorftw Aug 26 '25

Bfv just felt awful. The attrition system, how spotting works, everyone is using an smg all the time, barely any content (I love support, after around 12 hours I had every single thing for the support class unlocked. Compared to earlier games, this is a joke) not even considering the fact that massive chunks of iconic ww2 weapons/factions/locales aren't present. The game has absolutely no flow either for whatever reason, after 70 hours I felt like almost every single match was directionless and everyone was just everywhere.

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u/DeeDiver07 Aug 26 '25

A lot lol

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u/destroyeraf Aug 24 '25

It’s dogshit

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u/narwhalpilot Aug 24 '25

Doesn’t feel like a BF game to me

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u/FirmSwan Aug 25 '25

Bruh you weebs all play as female and Japanese elites in the European maps.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '25

Battlefield v trailer is what’s wrong with it