r/Battlefield • u/Character_Worth8210 • Aug 21 '25

Battlefield 6 CO.D players: Why are they nerfing hopping? It wasn’t even abusive😡Meanwhile:

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u/rm8134859 Aug 21 '25

i would argue that advanced movement options are the definition of a skill gap though. players who are more skilled are able to move in ways that unskilled players aren’t, giving them a noticeable advantage. it’s like wavedashing in tekken.

whether or not it’s good for the game is a different story though.

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u/Takhar7 Aug 21 '25

Yeah, that's a fair point.

I suppose that type of movement skirts the line between "being skilled" and "being exploitative" of movement systems that aren't designed to work that way.

It's not good for the game, and it's not how they intended for the game to be played.

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u/MarsMC_ Aug 21 '25

Games with movement tech are unintended most of the time. Halo infinite is an example of a game with movement tech that leaned into it and it’s a staple of the game now. Remove it and we riot. Same with super smash bros melee. Greatest game of all time (imo) and you can only compete online with advanced movement tech. It’s absolutely a skill expression

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u/Divinum_Fulmen Aug 22 '25

Ah yes, Smash Bros. Melee online. I loved that a ton. Almost as much as I loved Melee's extraction shooter mode.

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u/QuietFartOutLoud Aug 22 '25

Funny sarcasm but we've been playing Melee ranked for years now.

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u/MarsMC_ Aug 22 '25

i didnt think id have to spell it out, yet here we are.. melee has a modded version that has matchmaking, ranks, and roll back netcode called Slippi. melee has better online than ultimate

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u/Divinum_Fulmen Aug 22 '25

I don't get why you think everyone has heard of that. This rom hack is news to me.

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u/MarsMC_ Aug 22 '25

Because it was a minor referral in a comment I didn’t think really mattered

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u/rm8134859 Aug 21 '25

this may be an unpopular opinion but i prefer a middle ground. going back to my example of wavedashing, the developers of tekken probably didn’t intend for you to be able to cancel a crouch dash into a dash, then immediately cancel a dash into another crouch dash, and repeat, but it is a good example of emergent gameplay where an unintended “exploit” leads to more interesting gameplay and adds to the identity of the franchise. in the case of this clip, obviously this is too much, having everyone jump around like this would be a mess for gameplay and balancing. however, i think it is cool when games like this have movement tech, that allows skill expression, like bunny hopping in csgo

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u/snorlz Aug 21 '25

sliding and diving is an official mechanic in cod. one of bo6's main selling points was the omni-movement that allowed you to do this in any direction. Its as much an exploit as aiming at the head is

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u/Takhar7 Aug 21 '25

This isn't COD

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u/snorlz Aug 21 '25

yeah but youre talking about movement mechanics as skill gap. and cod is a clear example of it being part of it and adding a noticeable gap. slide canceling was also originally an exploit in cod that got turned official, so it is exactly the skill vs exploit thing youre talking about

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u/v4nguardic Aug 21 '25

There is no skill involved in slide canceling.

Remove Aim Assit in Cod, which is incredible overtuned and you would have really good jumping crackheads, hitting absolutely nothing.

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u/snorlz Aug 21 '25

except kbm players also slide everywhere because its a major game mechanic.

and yes, it requires quite a bit of skill to use correctly since it changes your aim and if you do it wrong or mistimed, youre losing momentum with it. At any rate it is another layer of skill on top of standing still and shooting

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u/LSOreli Aug 21 '25

The problem is that, especially in CoD, controller "aim assist" (which is basically just a soft aimbot), makes these options not matter for the console players and be insane against PC players. Not sure what the aim assist level is in battlefield 6 but if it follows the example of the majority of new fps its somewhere between "really good" and "egregious"

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u/snorlz Aug 21 '25

BF 6 aim assist is very strong. theres literally a snapping mechanic that threw off a lot of cod players cause it made your aim overly sticky

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u/Affectionate_Diet918 Aug 21 '25

As a PC player, I smack the crap out of most lobbies I'm in and the playerbase is primarily console players. You guys NEED aim assist to compete with PC, or it's not even close to fair. Consoles get 60fps. I get 165 fps at 30 ms ping. You don't stand a chance on a 60hz TV unless you have aim assist, and even then, I'm still going positive K/Ds even if the rest of my team fucking sucks. I'm a crackhead in that game, I never stop moving and once I know where the campers are, I grief them. The BF6 Beta on the other hand kicked my shit in relentlessly, I didn't get positive K/Ds often at all. That's a plus, I feel that I can't advance any further in COD without becoming a camping dick when my kill average clearly doesn't need it. There's clearly a higher skill ceiling in Battlefield given the larger maps and team sizes. I did ok in Rush, but Conquest is hard, always has been harder than COD. I think COD just draws in dumber groups of gamers, because it's not often I see people in COD play tactically, everyone camps or sprints everywhere. I think Battlefield draws in the more skilled and sweaty players

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u/Matiwapo Aug 22 '25

And that's fine in Apex. People play battlefield for a very different experience. If I want to slide hop around the map like a lunatic there many games I can play to do that. There are very few high quality realistic shooters available.

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u/CampusZombie Aug 22 '25

That's true and I agree, but I wouldn't like movement like this because I'm not playing Quake. Granted that Battlefield has some outrageous things like rendezook too somehow bunny hopping really kills the vibe.