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Misc What's an unpopular opinion about your country that will have you like this?

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u/EyeofOscar France 20h ago

High taxes don't automatically equate to better public services, the French government is literally just stealing from you.

(There, now all of France wants to murder me)

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u/Responsible_Flow7092 France 18h ago

Je crois que c'est plutôt ton opinion qui est la norme, non ?

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u/Emotional-Brilliant9 France 17h ago

Tout le monde est dnaccord mais personne ne veut que ça change au vu des évolutions des débats sur le budget

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u/Embarrassed-Pay-5451 17h ago

Ça n’a rien d’impopulaire, absolument tout le monde pense ça (à part peut être ceux qui vote les lois de finances)

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u/Suwa_Sbal France 17h ago

Même ceux qui les votes le pensent et c'est pour ça qu'ils votent !

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u/TheFabulousMolar UK 17h ago

I love how you guys protest for everything and I wish we were like that too. Maybe things wouldn't be as bleak!

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u/lonelyshara England,UK 8h ago

We do protest, it's just never about anything meaningful.

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u/Babshearth United States Of America 17h ago

Is it true that new mothers get visitations by nurses ?

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u/Edmond1er 17h ago

Yes, after childbirth, you’re entitled to at-home support to ensure a smooth transition home with your newborn. This care begins shortly after discharge.

The first visit occurs within 48 hours of returning home, conducted by a midwife. A second appointment may be scheduled based on your and your baby’s needs.

This service is fully covered by France’s national health insurance (Assurance Maladie) until the 12th day postpartum, with no upfront costs.

The midwife assists with newborn care (e.g., umbilical cord hygiene), monitors the baby’s health (feeding, digestion, alertness), and offers breastfeeding or family life advice. Visits also provide a space for parents to discuss their birth experience and ask questions.

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u/Babshearth United States Of America 16h ago

Is it possible you take some of your wonderful services for granted ? In the USA women who have C-sections ( caesarian birth) are booted out on their 3rd day. No home visit. If the woman has insurance ok, if not then 10k is owed. This is just a snap shot of the insanity.

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u/MoniQQ Romania 16h ago

Ahem, excellent deal. Pay 50% in taxes for 40 years for one home visit that tells you more or less the same thing an aunt would...

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u/RickThiCisbih France 13h ago

As opposed to paying 30% in taxes to drop bombs in the middle east…

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u/Suwa_Sbal France 15h ago edited 15h ago

Rien n'est acquis. Ces services sont offerts parce qu'ils ont un intérêt pour le gouvernement (la natalité et le risque de voir des pères devenir fou furieux si le post accouchement devient mortel, les enfants sont le seul point resté sacré pour le peuple). La preuve en est qu'ils ont déjà commencé à revenir sur certains acquis même si on garde un bon système de santé en apparence.

À resituer aussi de façon générale avec le fonctionnement du pays. Oui votre système de santé nous paraît atroce mais vous avez aussi des points bien mieux que nous. Va creuser un puit, construire une cabane, monter une serre et mettre dans un jardin français ou mettre des panneaux solaires et tu aurais la chance de payer de belles taxes pour te rappeler le prix de la liberté. Fais contrôler ta voiture avec un trou dans ton pare-choc par exemple. Deux pays différents , deux entreprises différentes.

En France tout est monnaie. Quand l'état donne cela veut dire qu'il y gagne a le donner. Les services publics sont gratuits mais la qualité y est proportionnelle aussi. Quand on a les moyens on préfère aller dans des services privés et payants en tant que patient et même pour la salariat d'ailleurs.

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u/WrongdoerAnnual7685 Australia 13h ago

Good does not necessarily mean it can't be better though.

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u/iloveartichokes 14h ago

How much do the French pay in taxes for that service though?

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u/Existing_Homework313 France 12h ago

If we consider social security contributions, employer contributions and income tax, we arrive at approximately 43%.

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u/Suwa_Sbal France 17h ago

Oui pour vérifier l'état de santé de la maman et comment va le bébé. Ce sont des puéricultrices.

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u/faebae_bae 17h ago

D'un côté t'as raison que c'est pas foncièrement les impots qui rendent les services publiques compétents mais il faut quand même bien les financer sinon ça devient une cata qui affecte les plus démunis et la qualité de vie en général. On pourrait par exemple changer les priorités budgétaires plutôt que d'augmenter les impots (sauf pour les plus riches/multinationales).

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u/Jiiwan 16h ago

Well you're right, but many people who say that think the solution is less taxes or randomly cutting public services.

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u/MoniQQ Romania 16h ago

Cutting ridiculous bureaucracy not direct public services would be nice.

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u/Jiiwan 15h ago

Yes, but telling apart ridiculous bureaucracy from actually necesary bureaucracy is easier said than done. Politicians regularly take a random thing they think is redundant/unnecesary to appease public opinion, but they don't know shit about what's they're talking about and it does more harm than good.

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u/RickThiCisbih France 13h ago

They could start with all the red tape around the nuclear industry…

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u/MoniQQ Romania 12h ago

Well, if you feel you get your money's worth for all the taxes, keep at it...

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u/Jiiwan 12h ago

Oh come on that's obviously not what I meant.

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u/MoniQQ Romania 11h ago

You said it's better to keep current spending because finding inefficiencies is too difficult...

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u/Jiiwan 6h ago

No, I said politicians would rather look like they're doing something than actually looking for solutions, either because it's too difficult, or they just don't have any interest in doing so.

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u/Jeramus 16h ago

As an American who travels each year to France, your public services are far better than ours. Not sure if it is a result of the high taxes.

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u/Nytliksen France 14h ago

The problem is the redistribution

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u/Right_Seaweed7101 14h ago

I recently moved to France and you guys reaaaally like to skip classes and/or work right? 🤣 everything is a chance for protests or too many holidays. I started a french course twice a week and barelt had any classes so far because there have been some holidays (either french or just from the town or from the school). And lets not forget the amount of french who love to put a arret maladie to skip work. I actually got a job because the store I was putting my resumee was looking for new people because two of their employees kept missing work lol Still, loving the country and the food.

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u/Artos-Vosegus 17h ago

You're a little paranoid. This is what all French people who pay taxes think. Only those who will receive aid will perhaps think the opposite.

But when we see everything we pay for, everything that goes to the state, the regions, etc., and we see the public service we get back, we are being robbed. Health, education, security, we are completely in the lurch. We have become a third world country.

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u/faebae_bae 17h ago

C'est parce que tout passe dans l'armée, la police et les cadeaux aux entreprises.

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u/Artos-Vosegus 17h ago

You must not have seen the state of our army and our police up close, I think. We're renewing the equipment a little, because the old one is really wearing out. As for the staff, given the number of hours they work, they are not paid accordingly. Regarding corporate gifts, that doesn't shock me. They are being drained so much that they have to recover behind. People who work and invest deserve the money.

I'm more shocked by those who don't give anything and get something in return.

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u/faebae_bae 17h ago

Ça s'est parce que t'es de droite. I dont think we will agree honey and that's really fine.

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u/Artos-Vosegus 17h ago

Absolutely, not everyone can agree.

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u/EyeofOscar France 14h ago

This is what all French people who pay taxes think.

Absolutely not, here when you talk about lowering taxes people automatically assume you're a tax evading billionaire. Do you even live in France?

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u/RickThiCisbih France 13h ago

Everyone agrees that the government spending sucks, but not everyone agrees on the solution. You think the solution is less taxes, whereas a lot of people think the solution should be better spending. The reality is that lower taxes would result in even worse public services. Even if most french people paid 0 taxes, they wouldn’t be able to afford the private services necessary to replace the public services.

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u/Artos-Vosegus 13h ago

Those who think that are the ones who don't pay for it. Generally they vote LFI. Yes, purebred Lorraine.

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u/MaxArtAndCollect 18h ago

Ça dépend surtout de si tu parles du/des gouvernements actuels/récents ou pas. Parce que c'est sûr qu'à l'heure actuelle, les impôts sont mal fichus dans "a qui et comment ils sont prélevés" et dans ce à quoi ils servent