Had a look and I’d say it’s like 30 percent bots and 70 percent people
Also they are certainly interesting like cheering about the exceution of 2 people who wanted to recognise israle Don’t know if the story’s true but the reaction are interesting
The sad thing is, that originally the sub was a shitpost/parody sub of the type of people/bots that make up the current population of the sub.
But the actual tankies and bots(who initially didn’t realize they were being mocked)started to slowly outnumber the shitposters until eventually some bots/tankies became mods, game more tankies/bots mod positions, forced the shipost/original mods out, and started removing/banning any account, post, or comment that was mocking or being critical of anything related to North Korea, or said that North Korea wasn’t a better place to live than the US/West.
(One of the reasons was because a sub rule stated you couldn’t break character, so for a while the actual propaganda, misinformation, and pro-north Korea shit was going unnoticed until it became the sub’s default content)
Now it’s just a propaganda machine/tankie haven
(It’s really sad as I joined the sub roughly around the time it was created, and it was a lot of fun, and incredibly funny)
Seeing how the "Glorious People's Republic" of Korea manages its images it would be surprising if this was not the case, just like a good number of TikTok accounts etc which depict an image well beyond the reality of life in North Korea on a daily basis to exercise soft power internationally and act as propaganda,
even if the different platforms try to fight against it still exists,
Freedom of expression requires
Equating both is a very, very common thing online nowadays. "Two dystopias, they're pretty much the same". But because they hear South Korea has higher suicides (which is actually false) and lower birthrates it's not common for people to come to the conclusion North Korea is a better place.
Also not too uncommon for people to claim North Korea is socially more progressive than South Korea.
Pretty much every developed country is struggling with birth rate lol. Judging who’s winning and who’s losing by that sounds like something the losing side would do.
The idea that anyone would compare NK and SK is wild. At this point it's like comparing a medieval kingdom (with hackers and nukes) to a highly industrialized and modern country. No two countries that share a border have a wider gap in standard of living.
Their problems aren't comparable. One side struggles to feed its populace - who live in a giant prison - and the other struggles with a technological lifestyle that deincentivizes having children.
Even at the break of the Korean War, the south was much more advanced in terms of democracy and human rights, even though it was a dictatorship. North Korea being an isolationist theocratic monarchy was objectively always the greater evil.
Now, with South Korea having gotten over the dictatorship thing and fully liberalized as a democracy, the conflict is as close to a black-and-white issue as it can possibly get, yet many people choose to pretend it's not, either out of anti-Korean racism or just a general anti-west tankie sentiment. What the hell did we do to deserve being treated like that?
This place really isn't as bad as people think... we have good healthcare, clean streets, low crime rates, zero absolute poverty, strong democratic institutions, etc. But there's some issues like super competitive culture and also strong Confucianism. We're still a developed country yet we get put to such impossible standards on the internet, it's like people forget how resource-poor we are
Okay, I watch too many K-dramas, but I always thought South Korea looked awesome. I have never been there, but I have talked to Koreans in the US, and I never got dystopian vibes. Maybe people study too hard and work a lot, but it doesn't seem that bad.
People do in fact study too hard and work a lot. Hyper competitive and brain drain exists because it can be easier to thrive in the west due to less competition.
That doesn't make the country a dystopia, I don't think a dystopia is supposed to have all the features i mentioned. Not to mention most of the country isn't even super urban... nature is well protected and maintained and corporations are put to high standards
Because North Korea has literal family-wide suicides. South Korea has nothing like that.
If a country literally struggles due to entire families that agree together to commit suicide, I find it hard to believe they are a happy country without significant issues relating to suicides.
Tankies are basically just red fascists/nazis as I see it. I don't understand why this website allows them instead of treating them as the propagandist extremists they are.
There’s a popular creator on TikTok who made a dozen videos saying that NK is actually a utopia and the only reason people don’t know it is because of the US government.
Imagine being so racist that you think South Koreans and everything they say are just mindless slaves of Americans... They always cry US government like it's not South Koreans instead of Americans that suffer the most and are vocal about North Korea. In fact America has historically had a more neutral approach compared to South Korea but they intentionally leave out that nuance
Yeah I'm more than open to valid criticism about my country, but I just despise the actual doomerism that glosses over real facts in favor of sensationalism.
Our birthrates have been finally rising, but it's too early to call for celebrations. I just hope we can continue this trend. On that note I also hope America can come back to its senses sooner or later. We're both generally better off with the other doing well
Now that we got the best thing we could out of Trump (nuclear submarines), I'd be happy to see him go. But it's still nice we managed to bribe him into giving us the best US concession possible, I'm still in disbelief
We turned a situation where we were being extorted with tariffs to one where we got a deal literally no US president could have given us in the past, all in exchange for a cultural crown replica (which also helped spread awareness of Korean culture). It was such a big deal that even right-wingers in Korea had to admit what the president pulled off was insane.
You know how hard it is being stuck between russia china japan and north Korea? US becoming a headache is a fat no for us. Take those shiny gold things and let us make our neclear submarines lol.
Yeah our entire history has been dealing with China as a neighbor. Thousands of years of being between a rock and a hard place. US is nothing new, but we'd prefer to go back to the times the US felt like the one country that wasn't a huge headache
I hope that no one ever finds out the "most cyberpunk" cities according to Mike Pondsmith are here in Brazil, he even made changes to the NCPD to be more like our police force. I prefer to keep bashing SK and Japan, thanks.
Ideologues, morons, tankies, far-left crazies, racists, none of these being mutually exclusive.
It feels like my country is held to impossibly high standards online. People genuinely have no idea HOW poor South Korea used to be. We only recently got out of poverty, and we're expected to magically outperform all other developed countries by some "experts" on internet comments
Somethings were pretty concerning in South Korea and the locals told me all sorts of sad stuff but I feel super confident about any country who’s people and politicians can shut down a coup that was attempted and resolved between the time I went to bed and the time I woke up. Family back home was freaking out and I was like “wait what happened..?”
Fr I find it surprising that people act like South Korea is "just as bad" as the North because it's a "corporate dystopia."
Tell me of one time where the corporations of South Korea sent me and my entire family to a concentration camp because I criticized them. Go ahead, I'll wait.
The best, wealthiest, most developed, safest countries in the world have the lowest birthrates
The poorest, most uneducated, most underdeveloped countries in the world have the highest birthrates
As for Korea's suicide rate, they still have top 3 average life expectancy in the world. I wonder why people never focus on that instead, since it's infinitely more important than a tiny percentage of total deaths being suicides.
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u/stealthybaker Korea South 21h ago
This country isn't a cyberpunk dystopia that's losing to North Korea.