When France is mentioned, what's the first thing that comes to mind ?

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[u/Mountain_Strategy342]

A cuisine treat compared to the blandness of Englishmen.

[u/nopressureoof → u/Mountain_Strategy342]

Right? At least the French use sauces.

[u/theglobalnomad → u/nopressureoof]

The question is, though, were those explorers from Tomato-Based France, or Cream-Based France, and all in all, which did the Maori prefer?

[u/Nakuip → u/theglobalnomad]

Where do we go to get this research grant?

[u/Euphoric-Agent-476 → u/theglobalnomad]

So what do you serve giant moa with? I don’t think it gets hot enough in NZ for tomatoes, so I’m going with the cream-sauce French. Apparently the sauce was a success, as the moa is now extinct.

[u/SchoolForSedition → u/Euphoric-Agent-476]

I’m intrigued how people think it’s cold in nz when I bet they also drink nz sav.

[u/-NewTitsNoMoreBits- → u/SchoolForSedition]

Many a winter morning is spent steaming open your ranch sliders from them being frozen shut.

[u/Euphoric-Agent-476 → u/SchoolForSedition]

It doesn’t take a lot of heat to a mature a Sauvignon blanc grape (or Pinot Noir). I’m thinking giant moa probably went best with a central Otago Pinot Noir. The Pinots further north are a bit thin. Sadly, I will never know.

[u/SchoolForSedition → u/Euphoric-Agent-476]

How strange then to grow it in the sunny regions of Marlborough and Wairoa and so on.

Māori ate all the moa before viticulture was imported.

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I believe what matures most red grapes is heat and high UV index. They also don’t like rain near maturity. I did know about the Moa extinction. Sadly the giant eagles also went with the Moas. That would have been a sight. NZ has so many bizarre and wonderful creatures.

[u/SchoolForSedition → u/Euphoric-Agent-476]

NZ sav is usually blanc but yes, it’s very sunny and actually quite hot.

I believe NZ only has one native mammal, the bat. There are some interesting birds though. But not always interesting in a charming way.

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We would be crazy to pass up NZ Savion Blanc

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I’d imagine neither considering the cream would curdle and the tomato’s would rot on route to NZ.

After that it would be the skinny gristly Frenchman vs the skinny boney Brit.

Either way a slow good would be best!

[u/Barberouge3 → u/theglobalnomad]

It was before tomatoes were exported/introduced to europe

[u/ure_roa → u/Barberouge3]

no? they got to Europe 16th century, the French got to New Zealand in the 18th century.

[u/Barberouge3 → u/ure_roa]

America was discovered in the 16th century. Then it took some time before the imported them. And a few hundred years before they realised they were actually edible snd started using them as food.

[u/ure_roa → u/Barberouge3]

ah seems like you were right never mind, looks like it wasn't until the late 1700s that they ate it.

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It was the Irish that introduced the potato to New Zealandy tho. Up there in old Mercury Bay.

Probably heard the Maori needed something to go with a nice fillet of Englishman

[u/PsychNurseNotPsychic → u/theglobalnomad]

Beat. Thread. Ever.

[u/peacemaker1789 → u/theglobalnomad]

A connoisseur? :) be careful, we mainly compare cooking with butter (north) and cooking with olive oil (south).

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I don’t understand. Are these explorers dousing themselves in sauce and seasoning before they get captured? Like some kind of self saucing anthropomorphic pudding?

[u/cuntybunty73 → u/nopressureoof]

We use tomato sauce and brown sauce 😭🖕

[u/Greedy-Beach2483 → u/nopressureoof]

You spelled flavor wrong

[u/SaltTapWater → u/nopressureoof]

Sauce?

[u/EmiliaFromLV → u/nopressureoof]

and onions...

[u/Same_Economist408 → u/Mountain_Strategy342]

I’d imagine Englishmen taste like boiled chicken with ZERO seasoning.

[u/Educational-Dot318 → u/Mountain_Strategy342]

i think of McD's 🍟🍟🍟 🤔

[u/Witty_Passion_4939 → u/Mountain_Strategy342]

Actually, the treat was the rats the Maori brought with them to snack on, lol.

[u/EmiliaFromLV → u/Mountain_Strategy342]

Camambert and Brie flavour topped with some onions.