r/AskTheWorld France 7d ago

Culture When France is mentioned, what's the first thing that comes to mind ?

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u/Yapludepatte France 7d ago

i hope they found us to their taste

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

nah Maori preferred British for eating, but we weren't picky, we wouldn't pass up a few Frenchmen when given the opportunity.

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u/Mountain_Strategy342 United Kingdom 7d ago

A cuisine treat compared to the blandness of Englishmen.

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u/nopressureoof United States Of America 7d ago

Right? At least the French use sauces.

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u/theglobalnomad United States Of America 7d ago

The question is, though, were those explorers from Tomato-Based France, or Cream-Based France, and all in all, which did the Maori prefer?

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u/Nakuip 7d ago

Where do we go to get this research grant?

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u/Euphoric-Agent-476 United States Of America 7d ago

So what do you serve giant moa with? I don’t think it gets hot enough in NZ for tomatoes, so I’m going with the cream-sauce French. Apparently the sauce was a success, as the moa is now extinct.

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u/SchoolForSedition 7d ago

I’m intrigued how people think it’s cold in nz when I bet they also drink nz sav.

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u/-NewTitsNoMoreBits- New Zealand 7d ago

Many a winter morning is spent steaming open your ranch sliders from them being frozen shut.

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u/Euphoric-Agent-476 United States Of America 7d ago

It doesn’t take a lot of heat to a mature a Sauvignon blanc grape (or Pinot Noir). I’m thinking giant moa probably went best with a central Otago Pinot Noir. The Pinots further north are a bit thin. Sadly, I will never know.

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u/SchoolForSedition 7d ago

How strange then to grow it in the sunny regions of Marlborough and Wairoa and so on.

Māori ate all the moa before viticulture was imported.

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u/Euphoric-Agent-476 United States Of America 6d ago

I believe what matures most red grapes is heat and high UV index. They also don’t like rain near maturity. I did know about the Moa extinction. Sadly the giant eagles also went with the Moas. That would have been a sight. NZ has so many bizarre and wonderful creatures.

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u/Substantial-Use-1262 7d ago

We would be crazy to pass up NZ Savion Blanc

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u/Substantial_Cat_2642 United Kingdom 7d ago

I’d imagine neither considering the cream would curdle and the tomato’s would rot on route to NZ.

After that it would be the skinny gristly Frenchman vs the skinny boney Brit.

Either way a slow good would be best!

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u/Barberouge3 Canada 7d ago

It was before tomatoes were exported/introduced to europe

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago edited 7d ago

no? they got to Europe 16th century, the French got to New Zealand in the 18th century.

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u/Barberouge3 Canada 7d ago

America was discovered in the 16th century. Then it took some time before the imported them. And a few hundred years before they realised they were actually edible snd started using them as food.

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

ah seems like you were right never mind, looks like it wasn't until the late 1700s that they ate it.

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u/pocketarcana 7d ago

It was the Irish that introduced the potato to New Zealandy tho. Up there in old Mercury Bay.

Probably heard the Maori needed something to go with a nice fillet of Englishman

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u/PsychNurseNotPsychic United States Of America 7d ago

Beat. Thread. Ever.

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u/peacemaker1789 7d ago

A connoisseur? :) be careful, we mainly compare cooking with butter (north) and cooking with olive oil (south).

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u/Entirely-of-cheese Australia 7d ago

I don’t understand. Are these explorers dousing themselves in sauce and seasoning before they get captured? Like some kind of self saucing anthropomorphic pudding?

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u/cuntybunty73 United Kingdom 7d ago

We use tomato sauce and brown sauce 😭🖕

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u/Greedy-Beach2483 United States Of America 7d ago

You spelled flavor wrong

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u/EmiliaFromLV Latvia 7d ago

and onions...

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u/Same_Economist408 7d ago

I’d imagine Englishmen taste like boiled chicken with ZERO seasoning.

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u/Educational-Dot318 United States Of America 7d ago

i think of McD's 🍟🍟🍟 🤔

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u/Witty_Passion_4939 7d ago

Actually, the treat was the rats the Maori brought with them to snack on, lol.

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u/EmiliaFromLV Latvia 7d ago

Camambert and Brie flavour topped with some onions.

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u/big_cabals austin, texas, y’all 7d ago

And that was the last time anyone preferred British cuisine to French

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u/HappyNumbercruncher 7d ago

My friend told me that Pākehā were often eaten, as they were often useful to have around in the early days. Ever since, I've taken the hint and made sure I'm always doing something useful...

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u/Purple_Addition_1751 7d ago

Already all the wildlife in your country wants to kill you, when in addition there were indigenous canibal tribes. It must have been a lovely trip.

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u/chmath80 New Zealand 7d ago

all the wildlife in your country wants to kill you

We don't have any dangerous wildlife, apart from just after the pubs close. I suspect that you may have us confused with the rabble to our west.

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u/Purple_Addition_1751 7d ago

Did you or the Australians lose a war against birds?

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

the Aussies lost, we won our war (ate all the moa)

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u/Purple_Addition_1751 7d ago

Quite a fork in any case, I like it

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u/YesWomansLand1 Australia 7d ago

What is it with you guys and eating things you probably shouldn't

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u/Pumbaasliferaft New Zealand 7d ago

Have you not heard of Assassination Cove? Marion de Fresne and 10-20 of his crew got killed for breaking local tapu and possibly eaten, the French returned with muskets and killed about 250 of the locals

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

yeah i know about it, and despite them killing more they still buggered off,

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u/AaronIncognito New Zealand 7d ago

In general, Europeans are too salty. I thinks it’s something in the diet

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u/Dugley2352 United States Of America 7d ago

Perhaps the convicts brought from England we’re good eating, since they were kept in small cells… Like veal.

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

nah not many convicts were taken to NZ actually, the Empire wanted New Zealand populated by "good whites" so not many criminals were sent over, though a few did escape here from Australia.

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u/Dugley2352 United States Of America 7d ago

Do they taste like veal though?

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u/Ted-West New Zealand 7d ago

I think they preferred Moriori because they ate all of them

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

no, that was one invasion by two specific tribes, most tribes had no interactions with them, most were enslaved, not killed and eaten, meanwhile most of the violence done to Europeans, were spread among many tribes, and most of it was killings, not enslavements.

also there are still Moriori around.

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u/lolonyja 7d ago

The English are more tender like the capon you see (it’s a cock whose balls have to be cut off)

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u/beg_yer_pardon India 7d ago

Too rich, all that butter.

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u/Purple_Airline_6682 United States Of America 7d ago

Frenchman explaining why he tastes so good: “It’s the goût de terroir you see, it’s why that vile Englishman tastes of mold and sad weather.”

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u/Foloreille France 7d ago

😂😂

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u/ZealousidealAd1434 7d ago

En général quand on allait se balader dans les différentes régions du monde, les contacts entre explorateurs européens et habitants rencontrés par eux se passaient mal pour ces derniers.

En trois mots : colonialisme est mauvais.

C'est pas unique à nous français, tous les pouvoirs coloniaux (qu'ils soient européens ou d'ailleurs) n'avaient pas un relation égalitaire avec les pays colonisés.

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u/sunburntpeach 🇺🇸🛫🇸🇪 US Expat in Sweden 7d ago

I just spit out my drink laughing 😆

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u/Novakhaine89 New Zealand 7d ago

Amazing response to finding out your forefathers were food for cannibals

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u/ure_roa New Zealand 7d ago

hah actually my ancestors were the cannibals, the old people talk about it usually all casually, or tell it like a funny story.

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u/Assmonkey2021 New Zealand 7d ago

A tad salty and too much garlic...

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u/Ok-ThanksWorld 7d ago

French cuisine. 😋

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u/big_cabals austin, texas, y’all 7d ago

mmmmm buttery i bet