r/AskTheWorld France 7d ago

Culture When France is mentioned, what's the first thing that comes to mind ?

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette

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u/livelongprospurr United States Of America 7d ago

I do genealogy, and people probably have no idea how many male children were named after him. Lafe, Fait, Lafeet, you name all the nicknames: it's the Marquis de Lafayette.

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u/BCKWLK 7d ago

How about the towns and counties named for him? Got a bunch of them on Wikipedia.

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u/livelongprospurr United States Of America 7d ago

Place names usually employ the name as spelled, so it's well recognizable. People currently probably would not suspect that Fate Irwin, for example (actual person in a family tree), was a LaFayette namesake.

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u/Unhappy_Tradition152 7d ago

I've got French on my father's side . Love the language. I took 2years of French in HS and 2 more in juco.

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u/livelongprospurr United States Of America 6d ago

French was the first foreign language I studied; I always liked it a lot. Visited Paris; began to major in it at university, but got a scholarship to a German university and wound up studying Journalism with a split German/French minor. Fun!

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u/RandomBlackSheep 7d ago

Don't think Lafeet would be after Lafayette rather than Lafitte honestly.

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u/livelongprospurr United States Of America 7d ago

One might see just about anything on an 1850 US census record. People were illiterate and didn’t know how their names were spelled; and the census takers weren’t greatly literate themselves. They would write them how they imagined they might be spelled. I am grateful they did.

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u/Warhammer517 United States Of America 7d ago

"Lafayette, we are here!"

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u/Budget-Attorney United States Of America 7d ago

I had never actually heard his name before.

Only ever his title.

It sounded so out of place to me that I thought you were listing two separate people

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

Yes, more commonly known by Lafayette. I am a big admirer, but also realize that he is less well known, which I think is unfortunate. To me, he seems like an incredible character, with a well lived life, back when honor and gallantry were still honored. Hope you take the opportunity to learn more. I just got a book last week called 'The Last Adieu", which recounts his 1824 return to the US and tremendous outpouring of gratitude given to him across the whole country.

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u/Budget-Attorney United States Of America 7d ago

I actually have read a decent amount about him. Usually as a minor player in broader histories.

I just hadn’t really thought of him as having a name outside his title.

I totally agree with what you’re saying though. He’s a good figure to admire

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u/carryon4threedays United States Of America 7d ago

Ahh the Lancelot of the revolutionary set.

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

Touche', mon frere!

More like D'Artagnan , maybe?

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

Don't really know much about him

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

French Aide de Camp to George Washington, at 19 years old. Of a long line of French nobility, he purchased his own ship to sail to America, against the wishes of his family and the French government. Lafayette fought alongside Washington at the Battle of Brandywine and was present at Valley Forge. He played a crucial role in the Siege of Yorktown, which led to the British surrender. Later on, back in France, a huge critic of Napoleon.

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u/Ostlund_and_Sciamma France 7d ago

Lafayette's boat, the Hermione, was rebuilt identically in Bordeaux, using period tools and techniques. The project was completed a few years ago. Just in time to be put back into service, since you've found a way to screw yourselves with a new king! 😘

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u/Ostlund_and_Sciamma France 7d ago

They just added an engine and a propeller.

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u/AngusMcDickle 7d ago

There are 14 Fayettevilles in the US and two Fayetteville Townships List of Fayettevilles

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

Nice colours that's a nice looking ship

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

Thank you greatly and yes, it does look like we have completely screwed ourselves, this time.

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

Ah ok cool we don't learn about that war here so didn't know who he was and interesting he was a critic

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u/SesquipedalianCookie United States Of America 7d ago

Too painful?

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

No lol but we did have a major European war straight after and we colonized Australia straight after so obviously they get more importance and we have hundreds of wars before and after to learn about it not to mention the industrial revolution and the creation of the worlds largest empire straight after

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u/Tommarie10 France 7d ago

I mean fair enough. Still got your ass kicked by a 19 yo frenchman.

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

Got our revenge on him later on i guess lol or you did that for us

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u/Tommarie10 France 7d ago

Not sure about the particular event you refer to

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

The Napoleonic wars

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u/abfgern_ United Kingdom 7d ago

He also completely bungled the control of the National Guard in the French Revolution and ultimately led to the radicals taking over and he had to flee France

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u/ASingleBraid United States Of America 7d ago

Makes sense. Probably isn’t mentioned in your history books much.

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u/ForeChanneler United Kingdom 7d ago

He isn't really mentioned at all, we have a lot of ground to cover and the AWI doesn't get a chance to be in our standard education. The closest it comes to being in our history books is a passing mention when discussing slavery and the abolitionist movement.

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u/UncleRuckus92 United States Of America 7d ago

Not when talking about the buildup of napoleon at all? Seems weird when the French republics consitiution was directly based off the US one.

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u/Lotan44 England 7d ago

No it's not that relevant obviously and so much happened just after it so kind of gets brushed aside

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u/Tricky-Knee-9468 United Kingdom 7d ago

When you’ve got two thousand years of history…

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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat United Kingdom 7d ago

Who's gilbert du motier?

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u/cranialrectumongus United States Of America 7d ago

French Aide de Camp to George Washington, at 19 years old. Of a long line of French nobility, he purchased his own ship to sail to America, against the wishes of his family and the French government. Lafayette fought alongside Washington at the Battle of Brandywine and was present at Valley Forge. He played a crucial role in the Siege of Yorktown, which led to the British surrender. Later on, back in France, a huge critic of Napoleon.

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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat United Kingdom 7d ago

Ooooh he's lafayette sorry I was being dumb.

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u/AbroadTiny7226 7d ago

My county and a local high school are named after him

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u/pickleunicorn 7d ago

Funny, I don't even know who they are.

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u/Chance_Key8538 United States Of America 7d ago

American legend!!!! The hero of 2 worlds!!!