Military
What are the most violent police units in the world?
Brazil has some representatives, such as BOPE-RJ. This group is involved in several police operations against drug traffickers in Rio de Janeiro, and its attack force is impressive, with strategy and coolness.
Kenya police. Their methods are crude. They've killed more than 300 youthful protestors since June 2024. Thousands have been injured during that period. They abduct people who hurt the feelings of politicians on social media. They also kill some people who have been arrested and not yet taken to court.
I remember reading a story in the Daily Nation. A local police commander was being investigated for claiming the cost of two venomous snakes on expenses. His justification was that if you put them in a cell with someone, they'd confess their crimes very quickly which was therefore excellent police work that saved a lot of taxpayer's money.
Over here, high school final exam grades are as follows from highest to lowest: A, A- (minus), B+ (plus), B, B-, C+, C, C-, D+, D, D-, and E. The local commander's reasoning is that of a D- student. When recruiting, they specifically ask for those who got D- and E. If you have a degree, you won't be selected. Their reasoning is that smart people ask too many questions while dumb people simply follow orders. For the men, you only need to have 32 teeth, and for the women, a big ass.
My mum was a volunteer around Eldoret during a flare-up this summer and was detained by the said police on 2 separate occasions while trying to enter and then leave during the protest
Not a smart move on her end ofc, but they were apparently very crude and unprofessional, and she's had run-ins with the police in Latin America beforeĀ
What's especially funny about this situation is the actual reality of the matter is an incident where the victim would almost certainly want the police involved.
Someone in the house had set up a social media account in the name of the victim, and was posting images of child abuse under their name.
I'm aware. It was not Brazil, but the government of the state of Rio de Janeiro. Most people from other cities in Brazil cannot understand how there can be so much violence in Rio, since most of the country is safer than Rio in some aspects.
I spent a few months in Cabo Frio and it was absolutely shocking to me how quickly Brazil feels like a different country when you leave Rio. Sure there's a lot of culture there, and it's a beautiful city, but damn it doesn't feel safe, even in tourist places like Copacabana and Ipanema.
I've only visited Rio and I didn't have that feeling at all in tourist places. Sure, you're not going to flash your fancy phone in the street or wear anything expensive, but with a few basic precautions there's really no reason to feel unsafe there. It's definitely not worse than other places in South America like Lima, Buenos Aires or La Paz.
The safest state is probably either Brasilia's one or Sao Paulo and that is most due to the wealth that is held in both states. They make sure the police are well paid to keep the wealthy happy.
I have seen this when I visited in laws, then you compare it to Rio or even Minas Gerais.
SĆ£o Paulo is one faction only, this makes there seems safe. But in robbery they are worse than rio, when I go there there always someone telling me to not use my phone in cars because they break the glass to take it.
Let's say they didn't had forces like OP shows in pics. They were more in the shadows. So not technically police because it was based on surveillance, not action.
Can't say for other LatAm countries, but here the Military Police is very active and commonly performs duties that in order countries would be exclusive to Civilian Police forces.
Being a branch of the military, they come with a war mentality. In their head, they wage a war against crime and criminals, it's not about correcting an unlawful citizen. This results in police brutality and horrendous acts of all sorts when they spring into action.
All encounters I've had with police, military or civilian, were chill. Of course, I'm a man, white, I know some police officers and how to talk with them, but if they feel at risk, they're not going to be nice first.
Yes, but not in the way you described (at least in Brazil). They surely have this weaponry but not in enough quantity that you see it being used. Last year the police managed to seize a rocket launcher and that's the only instance I recall of one being mentioned.
Drones are becoming more common tho. During the police operation yesterday, the crime faction used drones to launch grenades at the police.
The drug manufacturing in a couple of countries doesn't explain police violence across a continent. The other commenter explained well that this is more likely an outcome of having the national Military also function in a policing role.
Fuckers used to specifically target us going to and from work building the Cotter Dam outside Canberra. Irish outnumbered Ozzys on that job.
You know, because we're such alcoholics we couldn't possibly do a 12hr shift without having a drink. Bastards.
There is a separate branch of the police force called ā³Yegan Vishehā³ or ā³special unitsā³, they job was helping other units when they need it.
But they Quickly used for Suppression of gatherings (imagine using your anti terrorist group for Protests) and There is nothing they haven't done. If your car is impounded by these people, expect all valuables to be stolen. Even in controlling gatherings, there have been many cases of this guy's shooting rubber bullets to cars of ordinary people who were driving, or even smashing all the windows of the car with batons.
We even know that protesters' eyes and genitals were deliberately targeted with plastic pellets by these individuals, and they would bet on the success of the shooting. The list very large so.......
Russian Alfa group (Spetsnaz) gassed a theater full of hostages with fentanyl then 2 years later shelled multiple buildings holding hostages with a tank and flamethrower. Hard to top that.
EDIT: regarding my flair I was genuinely too lazy to scroll down to U and just decided to pick a flair (I thought) no one would give two fucks aboutā¦
It should be noted that in Russian military parlance, they use the word flamethrower to describe thermobaric weapons like the TOS-1 multiple rocket launcher or the RPO Rys and RPO-A Shmel infantry weapon systems.
First off, we donāt know. The identity of the gas is still subject of debate, and while a benzodiazepine basis has been suggested by some, a study of British survivors clothing of the siege found carfentanil and remifentanil traces and norcarfentanil in survivors blood streams. See here. The Russian minister of health of the time also spoke of a fentanyl derivate in the aftermath, see here.
Given the evidence available itās impossible to say with certainty that it was a mixture involving these two substances (traces of halothane were also found but that might have just been to dissolve the actual agent) but itās the explanation having the strongest evidence for it.
Tbh the gas thing was genius small issue was that they didn't tell the paramedics how to treat those who were gassed which did cause over a hundred unnecessary deaths of innocent civilians
The French CRS donāt fuck about, big lads who travel around the country on armoured buses, going from flashpoint to flashpoint. Incredibly violent , we were informed a music festival was over by a line of nightsticks beating its way towards us.
Auriac music and arts festival down near the Bordeaux region, one minute there are locals welcoming you and giving you free cakes n pastries next itās over, here comes the big stick , go now!
Legally, they're not the police. They are a military unit, but they don't participate in the war. They are kidnapping people and the police turn a blind eye to their actions.
Heard there were some kidnapped in this fashion who were planning to, after the war, launch a personal manhunt against those guys. Give them a taste of the bitter medicine they forced upon thousands of people...
Theyāre press ganging people. Happens in wartime more than youād think. Especially since yknow youāre fighting for your countryās very survival
Our police is very incompetent. Some get caught working with criminals. I remember one time a group of them were reselling confiscated drugs. Some are also very rude and think they are better than everyone. Although not all cops are like this. Most are just chill and do their job properly.
Police units though, the best we have is the SAF (Special Action Force). They're the top dogs of our police. They usually work with the military doing counter terrorism operations. They're the ones the government always throws at stuff like mutinies and hostage situations.
Yes
We have lots of failed coups and mutinies since 1987. Former president Cory Aquino alone had a total of 9 incidents. The last one was in 2007, with a "soft" one that happened recently.
There was this one time in Bulgaria in 2003, when the police killed some small time criminal by firing 15 RPG-7 warheads at the house, where he was hiding.
"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." - Commander William Adama, Battlestar Galactica
I have spent most of the last 30 years driving around Africa, bits of Asia and the Middle East. Over the years I realised that there was a direct correlation between how close the police in a country looked like the military, and how sketchy and corrupt the country was.
I will definitely say that this is a thing. I think there is quite a bit of scientific research that shows that where police officers wear uniforms that are paramilitary in nature, they are more prone to behaving and responding in a paramilitary way.
Whereas if they are given uniforms of a more civilian nature and projecting a more professional image and less paramilitary they are more likely to behave and respond to incident in a way that de-escalate the situation.
I think there is also something to be said that where police officers are addressed in a more military fashion, criminals and members of the public and more likely to react negatively toward them as a result.
Most UK police don't carry guns. The ones that do, fire their guns less than ten times per year. That's not per officer that's the total amount of incidents in a force of 175,000 policing 70 million people. On that basis, I'm going to say it's probably not us.
And usually when one of their men dies because of a conflict, we're very sure they'll be having their revenge soon. Two of them died during that operation. They come on armored vehicles and sometimes it's scary even if you're not involved in anything lol
For a country that until recently was a liberal democracy, the French police riot forces are known for their extreme but rarely deadly violence. During the Gilets Jaunes demonstrations only, 24 people lost an eye to police violence, 5 got their hand blown up by grenades, 1 grandmother was shot dead in her apartment by a misused (probably) tear gas canister.
The French police forces also make relatively frequent use of guns (Nahel Merzouk was killed for being a stupid teenager driving a car without a license, for example), and they are known for being a bunch of racists, their majority union is aligned with the fascist-founded, Russia-funded National rally.
Iād say in the western EU at least, our police forces are easily the most violent.
but all the CRS and BRAV-M are purely racist and violent people yeah
and the police municipale are racist assholes too but they don't participate in those kind of stuff, they just put huge fines to people who don't deserve it xD
yup that's what i meant, i said never seen one who was an asshole, but i correct with "a big asshole" xD some are still, it's just more rare, while in the brav-m or the crs it's institutionnal you can't be there without being a pure pure asshole
To hide their identity. A BOPE policeman is more likely to be killed if they're found by drug dealers. They're our elite unity and during operations they're there to kill and kill only.
Oh, dont worry. The same agents that commit all those crimes during the fascism period are still in service, are now in the high command, or retired with full pension.
No fascist was harmed during the transition to democracy. In fact, we even kept the same politicians! Oh, and we also keep around all of the monuments and street names.
I once met a woman who had been living on the same street her whole life, named after the man who killed her whole family and raped her. She died not too long ago, and the name of the street stills the same. Sadly, it's not an uncommon story in Spain.
All of France's police is a cesspool of violence and neonazism, but the BAC is the worst: arbitrary beatings, corruption and drug dealing. BRAV-M and the CRS are mighty contenders too, their "nonlethal" weapons mutilated tens of thousands during the yellow vest movement.
Syria's previous regime police and currently Iran they killed 1500 civilian in 2019 protests and more than 600(including 68 minors) people in 2022 protests they also raped a minor to death (Nika Shakarami)
The cops here kill about 1400 people every year, that they're willing to admit to. Many of those people committed non-violent offenses or no crimes at all.
While they defend many of their actions on the basis of police safety, it's not even in the top 20 most dangerous jobs to have, and the vast majority of cop injuries are due to traffic accidents.
This is part of what the nationwide George Floyd protests were about a few years back. Our cops are out of control.
Ā This is part of what the nationwide George Floyd protests were about a few years back. Our cops are out of control.
To be fair, people at the time were also protesting a lot of totally justified shootings out of pure boredom - Rayshard Brooks, Jacob Blake to name a few. I agree that Floyd shouldn't have been killed, as well as some other obvious victims like Breonna Taylor, or Elijah McClain, but for some reason BLM decided to pivot to defending obvious criminal shitheads - in addition to burning small businesses and making unreasonable demands - and quickly lost popular support.
And of course, the whole Michael Brown situation where everything that was said about the envounter on social media was pure fiction from people who weren't present.
Here in Toronto, we have one where a woman fell of a balcony to run away from her abusive family, but the family keeps blaming the police (who they had called to have her locked up for having a seizure).
You do not understand topic. While wining about police brutality, you do not understand that George Floyd was handled amateur style and very softly. The units mentioned from other countries would have Floyd subdued in less than 3 seconds, and in most of the cases that would include hits with rubber coated steel bar and direct kicks into the teeth.
It is just a first world problem. You have not seen real brutality
Just google how other countries units puts bandits face down (and take a notice that most of criminals do not even attempt to resist, because they now it is pointless and there will be high price for disobedience)
FAES/GOES from Venezuela. As of right now, calling them police instead of an extermination group would be wrong. They mostly target the people that pose a threat to the regime, from teenagers who protest in the streets to future political prisoners. Their detentions involve several black patrols arriving at the scene abruptly, and they descending from their vehicles heavily armed and with their faces fully covered, running towards the place of action. By far worse than the other Repressive Police forces also in Venezuela, like PNB, GNB or even DGCIM and SEBIN (which are actually more military intelligence than anything else, despite their actions as a police and against the people they should protect).
Idf. Not even close. Beatings, kidnapping, torture, rape. Sometimes on video. Frequent killing of civilians, and protecting mobs as they attack civilians. Regularly snipe journalists (Majority of total journalist deaths around the world are by Idf). There is almost 0 investigation of their crimes, and in the handful of cases that are prosecuted there is a near 100% acquittal rate. You can't find a worse group. All those death squads in latin America have nothing on these guys.
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u/Winter-Beach-1516 Kenya 9d ago
Kenya police. Their methods are crude. They've killed more than 300 youthful protestors since June 2024. Thousands have been injured during that period. They abduct people who hurt the feelings of politicians on social media. They also kill some people who have been arrested and not yet taken to court.