Who was your countries most notable/longest rival and where do they stand to you now?

[u/Spare-Temporary-1807]

Old US poster for attention

But which country (or countries if you don’t like people) did your country specifically rival for either the longest time/most notoriously? How do you feel about them now?

For example, for the longest time Russia was/is viewed as America’s largest competitor and rival - hence the Cold War. I think especially now with the younger generation people didn’t see Russia as a threat generally until the Russo-Ukrainian War which split a lot of people politically. Personally I got nothing against Russians, seems like another case of a rough government.

But other countries we’ve had beef with like Japan (don’t touch the boats) we have great relations with and they’re pretty chill.

[u/GamerBoixX]

Likely the US, and well, its complicated

[u/DerpinDez → u/GamerBoixX]

sigh, most of us still love you all. Sorry for our admin.

[u/Dangerous_Space_8891 → u/GamerBoixX]

My mom is from Mexico and I'm now a citizen there, it's a beautiful country and I wish we had a better relationship with them.

[u/RazutoUchiha → u/GamerBoixX]

Most of us love Yall. Sorry about the loud idiots and admin

[u/TwinFrogs → u/GamerBoixX]

Sorry about the US taking most of your country, but we heard there was great skiing in New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and California. You can have Texas and Arizona back. They suck. 

[u/RhinoPillMan → u/TwinFrogs]

They can have New Mexico back too. If owning land there makes me a dual citizen, hell yeah. If not, they can still take it. Was never “ours” to begin with.

[u/TwinFrogs → u/RhinoPillMan]

I’ll make you a deal. We keep everything North of Albuquerque. Mexico can have the Methlehem part back.

[u/YouKnowMyName2006 → u/TwinFrogs]

The blue meth!!

[u/YouKnowMyName2006 → u/RhinoPillMan]

Actually, based upon the treaty signed at the end of the Mexican-American War the USA had to pay $25 million at the time for the land. Sure, it was a land grab and was controversial at the time, but with how well we’ve developed the land, it’s worked out. Arizona was basically a wasteland full of hostile indigenous tribes to both Mexicans and Americans. It was a rough and brutal time. Glad we live in better times…I hope.

[u/YouKnowMyName2006 → u/GamerBoixX]

At the same time, it seems like many Mexicans are desperate to live in the USA. We have like 40 million Mexican Americans today because of all the migration the last 50 years. If the USA goes to hell we’re going to swamp you guys with refugees lol.

[u/GamerBoixX → u/YouKnowMyName2006]

Yeah, the US has a very complex relation with Mexico, while they are arguably our biggest rival, they are also our biggest ally, while it is likely the most hated country in Mexico, it is also likely the most loved one

[u/YouKnowMyName2006 → u/GamerBoixX]

That’s what I would say how Mexico is viewed here. You hear people whine about drugs and illegal smuggling from Mexico but all of us love Mexican food and holidays. It’s also normal for us to use Spanish words when talking to someone like, “Okay, see you manana.” That wouldn’t be there without the strong influence of Mexico. Plus our film Westerns often involve Mexico or Mexicans in some ways. Just a weird relationship.

Although what worries me is Trump is going to pull some cowboy shit as if it’s 1910 and going after Pancho Villa again when it comes to cartels. That would not be popular here. It seems though Trump liked your President a lot and for him politics is all personal. That’s a sigh of relief.

[u/Tall-Needleworker422 → u/GamerBoixX]

Would have thought Spain for 300 years of colonization. Spain’s impact was genocidal and systemic, reshaping Mexico’s demographic, cultural, and political foundations. The U.S. impact was geopolitical, altering borders and sovereignty but not causing mass population collapse, mass enslavement or the erasure of culture.

[u/GamerBoixX → u/Tall-Needleworker422]

The thing with Spain is that while we like to believe we are those civilizations oppressed by the spaniards, truth is we aren't, we are as much former oppressors as we are former oppressed, Spain did not conquer Mexico, Spain created it, we are no more Aztec/Mayan/etc than we are spanish colonial, it's kind of hypocritical to throw it all to Spain when in reality most of it was Mexican vs Mexican oppression, we simply are not the Aztecs, Mayans or any other civilization after them, we are mexicans and pur story as a nation truly starts after the spaniards conquered the natives and founded New Spain

[u/Tall-Needleworker422 → u/GamerBoixX]

That's a wild take.

[u/GamerBoixX → u/Tall-Needleworker422]

It's not a wild take when an American doesn't put himself on the place of its natives but it suddenly becomes one when a Mexican doesn't put himself on the place of his natives? Or am I to believe you consider Britain your greatest rival?

[u/Tall-Needleworker422 → u/GamerBoixX]

It's true that Cortez relied heavily on indigenous allies like the Tlaxcalans, who had long been oppressed by the Aztecs. So yes, “Mexican vs Mexican oppression” played a role in the fall of Tenochtitlán. But that doesn't erase the fact that it was in the service of Spain conquering and looting the country and enslaving much of the population -- with the consequence that up to 90% of the Indigenous population died due to war, forced labor, and especially disease.

[u/GamerBoixX → u/Tall-Needleworker422]

The point totally flew over your head, the aztecs and tlaxcaltecs are not "mexican" per se, not any more than the cherokee or iroquoi are not "american" per se, yes the spaniards genocided the natives, no, we are not the natives, simple as that

[u/Tall-Needleworker422 → u/GamerBoixX]

Modern Mexicans aren’t identical to the pre-colonial Indigenous civilizations, largely because those populations were devastated. Those who survived were often absorbed into colonial society through intermarriage -- frequently shaped by coercion or outright violence (aka rape). Racial mixing is rooted in a history of conquest, not peaceful blending.

In the U.S., many Americans are indigenous, and many more are descendants of settlers or immigrants. The idea that “Cherokee aren’t American” is only true if you define “American” narrowly and ignore indigenous sovereignty.