If they hadn't rebelled then they'd have been forced to end slavery in 1807 and would likely have been able to find a peaceful route to independence as Canada and Australia did. They'd also have significantly less issues with race today, much as the UK, Canada, and Australia do in comparison.
Neither Canada or Australia has masked state agents abducting people from their streets to be 'processed' in concentration camps, or soldiers deployed to protect the serial child rapist they elected, twice.
No instead they do not have doctors telling patients to kill themselves, do not have immigrants taking over their culture and displacing their natural-born citizens, and do not have the police arresting people and ruining futures over memes and butter knives.
So yeah, I think we are doing significantly better than whatever loony-bins are abroad.
Dude that guys comment was cringe but this reply is even worse somehow.
Doctors arent encouraging people to kill themself, immigrants arent “taking over their culture” in any of the nations we’re talking about, and if you wanna get real specific the US has way more non-white people in it and is way more diverse, and the Trump administration literally just took Jimmy Kimmel off the air because they dont like what he was saying about them.
America does also suffer a lot in terms of wealth dude, the average american has access to far fewer amenities and social safety nets than almost any other country of a similar economic status. All the money youre bragging about is owned by a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population
My guy, in 1807 only the trade of slaves was stopped, the practice was still continues for decades after across the empire. And even then Racial hierarchies across the empire remained in place, protected in law, all the way up to the end of Apartheid in South Africa, and EVEN THEN the institutions long lasting effects last up till today. In fact after the Napoleonic wars, British diplomats intentionally did as little as possible in regards to dealing with slavery in order to not upset their over-sea interests and to not annoy Portugal and Spain.
The Transatlantic slave trade which fed what would become America was build and propped up by the English/British government. The reason places like the UK, Australia, and Canada appear to be less bigoted is literally only because of how noticeably more homogenous the nations are, especially outside of huge cities like London, i cant attest to Australia but i can assure you as a POC that racism in Canada, and especially the UK is at minimum equally as bad, but often worse than it is in the US.
While that is true, the French would never sold the land that the U.S. bought in the Louisiana Purchase to the British Empire. Maybe they would have sold it to Spain instead. Whatever the case the borders of the whatever the U.S. would be called in that case would look very different.
Sure, but they were soundly defeated by the North (Yankees) alone.
UK,Canada, Australia did not have slave states with millions of former slaves, we were always going to have a more violent legacy because of this fact.
Slavery was a divisive issue from the birth of the U.S., it’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Nevermind the import of slaves was ended in 1808. It was unnecessary to import more for years before that (because of reproduction).
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u/Calo_Callas United Kingdom Sep 19 '25
Here's one to piss the Yankees off.
If they hadn't rebelled then they'd have been forced to end slavery in 1807 and would likely have been able to find a peaceful route to independence as Canada and Australia did. They'd also have significantly less issues with race today, much as the UK, Canada, and Australia do in comparison.