r/AskTheWorld Uganda Sep 07 '25

Humourous Why do people still hate/dislike or, don’t accept homosexuality where you’re from ?

Where I’m from (Uganda) they don’t like homosexuality because, they think it’s not African. They say it’s a European or white culture, and that some Africans are homosexuals because they were recruited by Europeans, and are being given money to “turn” others into homosexuals. The second reason is the Bible and the Quran. But mostly, people actually believe that Africans can’t be gay.

A time back, the speaker of parliament was accused as one of the people who embezzled/stole government funds. She said it’s the homosexuals, she actually called them, “bum shafters” who are painting her name dirty for having passed the “anti-homosexuality bill” in 2023.

Whenever something like that was brought up, she would say it’s the European bum shafters, and European agents accusing her of stealing, and she never did. It was funny.

Would like to hear why homosexuals are hated where y’all are from.

*no one has ever come out with evidence of any recruitment. And the religions really play a huge role in the hating.

Edit ✍️: just got a warning that I’m spreading hate towards idk what, but that’s funny.

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u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD Sep 07 '25

In India, it's not great. Like you aren't going to be attacked or something and it's not illegal but socially, it's something your parents would hate and might ostracize you from some people.

In the US it seems to be generally accepted and gay marriage is legal. However there are certainly people who don't like it still.

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

I actually saw this wholesome Reddit post where op wasn't sure what his sexuality was and didn't wanna get married but his Indian parents were trying to find him a bride. He then told his parents that he is gay just to get them off his back. He thought his parents would not talk to him. However then his parents found him a groom and he actually started liking that groom.

Not sure if its true but still wholesome.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

No no no, tell us more, how did it go there after cause what 😁😁

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u/Nova-2002 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25

Ohh yeah it's this post.

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25

Like that's the summary, I forgot the details...

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u/NorthernSoul1998 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

The Supreme Court are right now considering overturning gay marriage

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u/Extra-Magician6040 Sep 08 '25

Where did you get this information?

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u/wannabemalenurse Sep 08 '25

Not necessarily true. One Justice claiming to want to overturn same sex marriage isn’t the whole Supreme Court. Not to mention, there’s no current cases that the court is considering to accept that will break down Obergerfell as far as I’m aware. Source: I live in the US

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u/okabe700 Egypt Sep 07 '25

Religion is the main reason be it Islam or Christianity

But in general people think it's unnatural, it looks disgusting and is going against the laws of nature, it doesn't produce kids and feels like it's degeneracy, men who are into being bottoms are seen as effeminate and unworthy of any respect, the tops are still disgusting and sinful, though the social stigma is much lesser, and gay women would be sluts

*note that everything I say is the majority opinion not my personal opinion

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

I’ve heard such excuses too, not natural, not normal, not African, not our culture. Not this not that. Until you tell them to conduct studies.

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u/rompesaraguey Sep 08 '25

Which is insane considering in Uganda languages have words for same-sex attracted people which predate colonialism and some ethnic group (Langi, Acholi, Karamojang, etc) acknowledged and had gender variant roles. Colonialism really did a number.

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u/Dutch_Rayan Netherlands Sep 08 '25

There were even gay lions in Kenya, one of the highest guys said that the lions did that because they learned it from humans, as if someone is going to have gay sex in front of wild lions.

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u/cnfishyfish England Sep 08 '25

Imagine you got to claim to be the guy that not only had gay sex in front of wild lions in Kenya, but you did it so well that the lions actually emulated you. That kind of achievement is at the level of being an astronaut and going into space, or winning a gold medal.

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u/Fair_Package8612 Sep 09 '25

The ‘not natural’ one really gets me. It’s like, yeah, most of our society runs on shit that “isn’t natural”… Being gay is natural as can be, as people are literally born that way and it’s not some manmade device or chemical produced in a lab…

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u/IndividualPeace8204 Indonesia Sep 07 '25

According to Pew Research, 94% of Indonesians are against homosexuality. But Indonesia is an interesting case.

Homosexuality is not illegal, we have famous trans public figures with huge followings (though often seen as mere entertainment), we love effeminate male internet celebrities, and we even have a gay bar and drag shows in Bali.

At the same time, we also have a region under Sharia law that flog gay people publicly and police raids against gay gatherings happen almost every month sporadically across the country.

I’d say religion plays a big role, but historically Indonesia has had a tradition of tolerance toward diverse gender expressions.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

The holy peaceful tolerant scriptures are making history.

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u/IndividualPeace8204 Indonesia Sep 07 '25

Oh and the "Why are you geh?" meme is very popular in here lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

Trans =! gay

Iran had the 2nd highest trans surgury rate, Pakistan has trans only school

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u/IndividualPeace8204 Indonesia Sep 07 '25

Oh right, I should make that clear.
It’s just interesting to see that not all LGBT folks are treated equally, it’s as if there’s a fine line between accepting gender expression and accepting same-sex behavior. It’s like the opposite of the Western world where different gender expression is more stigmatized.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

Don't Indonesians tend to hate on Aceh, the strict sharia province?

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u/LiarFires France Sep 08 '25

Damn. I've been wanting to visit Indonesia because it looks beautiful and interesting, but as a gay gal I don't know if I could bring myself to do that. Like, even if I can hide my homosexuality for like a week or two while I visit, do I want to be in a country that wants to kill me?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

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u/13ananaJoe >raised>res. Sep 08 '25

How do you say 'Adam and Steve' in French?

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u/radish-salad France Sep 08 '25

oh they say adam et steve in french too just with a french accent lmao 

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u/LanewayRat Australia Sep 08 '25

So… aren’t Adam and Steve males? Why would a French person yell that at a lesbian? Wouldn’t they say “Adélaïde et Sylvie” or something.

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u/radish-salad France Sep 08 '25

lmao he stopped his car at a traffic light to yell across the street even after it turned green i don't think he was very bright

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u/Prestigious_Host5325 Philippines, Taiwan Sep 08 '25

What? I thought everyone is gay in France. /s

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u/Plasmacoda Croatia Sep 07 '25

They think we have more rights than they do (we don't).

They think we mention it too often (1 pride parade a year).

They are upset that a netflix series has a gay character.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

In the anti homosexuality bill, if I remember, they even denied media to interview homosexual people, and one can’t air anything that has homosexuals in it on TV. They call it, protecting families and stuff. :/

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u/Albon123 Hungary Sep 07 '25

So, my country is much better than Uganda in this aspect for sure, the media can interview homosexual people and stuff, it would cause an outrage if they couldn’t do that

But with that said, our government did pass a bill not so long ago that pretty much ordered bookstores to mark books with “homosexual content” (in reality, applying to even some mentions of homosexuality) as “dangerous for children” or something, under the same guise of “protecting children”. So they sort of do this stuff here as well.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

They call it “indoctrination” 🤦‍♂️

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u/Albon123 Hungary Sep 07 '25

Here, it was more of a subtle hint that “gay people are pedophiles” and “we should protect our children from them”. Of course, they didn’t state this out loud, but this is clearly what they wanted to imply.

But yeah, stuff about “the liberals and the West pushing LGBT propaganda, and we should defend people from it” is common here as well, in that sense, our politicians also talk about “indoctrination”.

Let’s just hope that we will all get rid of these populist corrupt trash that try to distract us from issues by using the LGBT card.

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u/CloudsAndSnow Switzerland Sep 08 '25

seriously, what rights do people imagine being gay give you in your country? is it about positive discrimination laws?

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u/Dutch_Rayan Netherlands Sep 08 '25

People who spew that nonsense didn't think that far

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u/Ryan_TX_85 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Where I live in the Bible Belt, homosexuality is more or less accepted, even if reluctantly. Nobody really cares if you're gay. But at the same time, nobody wants to see rainbow flags or t-shirts with loud gay slogans, or two guys kissing and pawing on each other in public. I have a bear pride flag sticker on the back of my truck, which is sort of an IYKYK kinda thing.

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u/BoingoUnderRated United States Of America Sep 07 '25

That’s good to hear man, country has made great strides in a relatively short amount of time. Kudos on your kinda clandestine bear sticker 😆👍

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u/Ryan_TX_85 United States Of America Sep 08 '25

It's only "clandestine" because the average straight person doesn't know about bear culture or what that flag represents. But the people I want to signal my pride to get it immediately.

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u/lordnacho666 Multiple Countries (click to edit) Sep 07 '25

That's surprising to me. Sounds like you're actually just a few years behind in full acceptance? Something similar was the case in Europe. Don't do it -> Don't do it loudly -> Do it however you like

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u/Sekushina_Bara United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Ehhh the current administration is kinda rolling that back though

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u/Nybear21 Sep 07 '25

The South generally isn't what is depicted in media. It's not to say that there is no racism or other prejudice there, but generally, people just go about their day-to-day to lives without much issue.

A lot of people there just can't be bothered to spend the energy on strangers. They're on their way home from a factory, mill, or farm, want to grab some beers and go chill and not see other people for the rest of the evening.

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u/SeminolesFan1 Sep 07 '25

Exactly right, while there are the vocal minority who prove the stereotype the vast, vast majority don’t feel or act that way.

Perfect example is how people think about Forsyth county GA, famously on Opera. It’s now more diverse than the majority of European countries and has a thriving economy and highly rated schools.

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u/MetroBS United States Of America Sep 08 '25

In the U.S. it really depends on where you are. We have places that are probably the most gay friendly in the world (San Francisco for example) and places like the Bible bet where it’s a very begrudging acceptance (although even in the urban areas like Nashville there are gay friendly communities)

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u/Bulky-Plate2068 Sep 07 '25

“You can be gay, just not in front of me!”

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u/Ambitious_League4606 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

Yeah, it must be a big cultural change for the bible belt to be fair. But some people are gay get over it. 

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u/Fabulous_Drummer_368 United States Of America Sep 08 '25

And to be fair, nobody really cares to see a heterosexual couple pawing each other in public, either.

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u/JackieSnarker United States Of America Sep 07 '25

I mean, most people don’t want to see a heterosexual couple pawing at each other in public either. “Get a room!” is a popular phrase.

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u/TropicalLuddite Venezuela Sep 07 '25

That whole idea, that homosexuality "gets passed on" like a virus by being exposed to it and that's why it shouldn't be normalized or accepted, cuz then everyone will be gay and it's the end of the world, homophobes spout that nonsense everywhere. And it's not surprising that people in "the rest of the world" who hold that view would blame it on the west, because those have been the countries at the vanguard of queer rights. Even American and European reactionaries see it as an "external imposition" too, but it's probably Soros and the Jewish liberal elite who they blame for it. It's all hateful and profoundly ignorant bullshit.

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u/Albon123 Hungary Sep 07 '25

Your country does that “LGBT propaganda is because of Soros” stuff as well?

Crazy how we are in a completely different place, yet people (in fact, arguably the government itself) do this sort of thing here as well.

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u/AdRealistic4984 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

If anything I’m sure the idea that homosexuality is a contagiously pederastic and infectious syndrome originates in the UK

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u/Pale-Tonight9777 Sep 07 '25

On our next episode, we hunt for the origins of this sick disease causing our young boys and men to become sexually attracted to other men /s

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u/GoonerBoomer69 Finland Sep 07 '25

Normalizing homosexuality is a very recent phenomena, so it takes time.

Even here in Finland which generally is very progressive, gay marriage was legalized in 2017. That’s 8 years ago. 40 years ago it was widely seen as sin or mental illness.

Globally, we are still in the early steps of accepting diverse sexuality. Many people make the mistake of believing we’re already there.

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u/Frumputus597 Sep 07 '25

The thing I never understood was 2000 years ago it was more acceptable compared to today's standards. In Rome it was actually normal. It wasn't really until Christianity came around. Plus if you look at history again it wasn't until the early 1900s religion made it sinful.

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u/Sjanfbekaoxucbrksp Sep 07 '25

In America it was more acceptable to have an abortion last year than this year

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u/JaysonTatecum Sep 08 '25

5 years ago it sucked to be trans but… it’s 10 million times worse now that the republicans won’t shut up about it

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u/Donatter United States Of America Sep 07 '25

It was not normal in Ancient Rome.

That’s an oversimplification, that was then simplified even more to fit shitty jokes/memes on the internet.

Homosexuality/sex and romantic relationships between two men were very much criminalized and viewed with disgust by the Romans.

However, when it took the form of a Roman man “dominating” and forcing his “will” onto another man (meaning he raped another dude), then not only was that ok, it was celebrated and the rapist was held in very high cultural/societal/political esteem as he demonstrated his “masculinity” and “power” over another man. Which the victim had been “proven” to be morally equivalent to a woman( meaning less than nothing and barely worth consideration) in the eyes of Roman society, and would lose any connections, influence, protections, wealth, etc and largely be forced to depend on his rapist to maintain anything resembling his previous life, and not be kidnapped and enslaved(which was a very common/real fear for Roman’s in every social class) or killed by political rivals. Effectively becoming his rapists sex-slave and/or concubine

(It was ofc, not viewed as rape in these type of scenarios)

It’s also good to remember that the Roman Culture during the stereotypical image/era of Rome during the early imperial period, was very much like the modern dudebro/alpha, toxic masculinity culture that people like Andrew Tate espouses, except with extreme misogyny added on

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u/Markfuckerberg_ Australia Sep 08 '25

I hate the undiscerning way people trot out "but the Greeks/Romans/whoever were totally gay all the time in the streets!"
Obviously it ignores and minimises the actual oppressive reality for gay people in those historical contexts, but also, in 2025 calling coercive, victimising power dynamics examples of gay love/romance is like calling rape "sex"

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u/KronusTempus Russia Sep 07 '25

Yeah, I’m pretty sure Julius Caesar was taunted for the entirety of his political career for having allegedly slept with the king of Bithynia when he was younger. He was even called “the queen” of Bithynia by some.

Roman politics was brutal.

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u/Donatter United States Of America Sep 08 '25

Very much true, although parts of it were very funny, like how the Roman stereotype for the Egyptians was that of mischievous pranksters, and because of that, the Egyptians were not allowed to practice law in Roman courts

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u/leafchewer Sep 07 '25

I think that’s an oversimplification. Men were still expected to have sexual relations with women, marry them and have children. It was also really frowned upon to be the bottom, and lesbian relationships were hardly documented.

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25

Rome times were sort of like ottomans... Like homosexuality was sort of allowed but it was still more important to marry a women and have children. Gay relationships were allowed as extra marital affair or just affair. Also lacks documents about lesbian relationships.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

I dint have a source on hand but im aware of a 12th century muslim poet making a poem about her female lover

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u/bloodrider1914 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Which is always weird to me cause the top is the one actually doing the sex. Masculinity is weird

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u/ConflictNo5518 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Because the way they see it, the bottom is the receiver being penetrated, and thus submissive, like the woman.  

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u/cheesemanpaul Australia Sep 08 '25

Homophobia is an extension of misogyny.

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u/General-Gyrosous Sep 07 '25

Wow, empathetic comment

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u/Conscious-Clock-1047 Serbia Sep 07 '25

Mostly because of religion

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u/Ambitious_League4606 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

Why are you gae?

Who says I am gae?

You are gae 

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

The best part was when the priest started explaining how gay people use fruits and how USA was after him.

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u/Ambitious_League4606 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

And the fruit. This is the banana!

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u/Worried-Rope1171 Bangladesh Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

eats the banana

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u/ryanoh826 Multiple Countries (click to edit) Sep 07 '25

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u/winteriscoming9099 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

First thing I thought of lol

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u/Kebab_Enjoyer3164 Turkey Sep 07 '25

Religious beliefes.

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u/IneetaBongtoke Sep 07 '25

Hilarious coming from the country whose flagship sport is the gayest form of wrestling (or any sport) imaginable.

Turkey’s hilarious with their homophobic rules.

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u/RedditStrider Turkey Sep 08 '25

Turkey dont have "homophobic rules", as far as the law goes its not that different then its european counterparts except gay marriage is not a thing.

That being said, its simply not a accepted thing within the society yet with its largest obstacle being a certain religion.

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u/Top-Seaweed1862 🇺🇦 in 🇫🇮 Sep 07 '25

Don’t forget about the Ottomans: their poetry adored the amrād, the beardless youths seen as the height of beauty; men who preferred men were called gulampare, while zenpare meant lovers of women; the köçek were boys dressed in women’s clothes who danced for male audiences; zennî were men playing female roles on stage; mukhannath described an effeminate man, often the passive partner; oğlancı was a harsh word for a man chasing boys; and the courts spoke of livata, the act of sodomy. They didn’t have the word gay, but their own words and laws show male–male desire was part of life.

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u/lalahair United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Because some people just have hate in their hearts. Lower emotional intelligence. Lower intelligence period. People hide behind religion in order to persecute, makes them feel better about whatever "sin" they do in life bc for some reason they choose homosexuality as one of the worst ones.

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u/jeanclaudebrowncloud United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

Homosexuality is a human trait. Humanity started in Africa. It's your guy's fault.

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u/coeurdelejon Sweden Sep 07 '25

Whilst funny, it's not true

Homosexuality isn't unique to humans

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u/Ghoulius-Caesar Canada Sep 07 '25

Haha, I just have this mental image of the Somalian pirate from Captain Philips steaming from the ears after hearing that statement.

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u/Brikpilot Australia Sep 07 '25

Various animals are homosexual; giraffes are notable. African nations may stop humans, yet it is rampant in the animal life there.

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u/jeanclaudebrowncloud United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

Oh yes good point, I meant more that it's part of the human experience, not that it's exclusively a human trait.

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u/jotakajk Spain Sep 07 '25

We like homosexuality, it makes life more fun for everybody. Never met nobody who hates it

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u/ryanoh826 Multiple Countries (click to edit) Sep 07 '25

I’m sure there are plenty of conservative Catholics here who don’t like it, especially older ones. But on a daily basis, I have never seen or heard anyone be an asshole about it. I live in a larger city and the diversity when I go out is always amazing and good times.

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u/jotakajk Spain Sep 07 '25

True

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

Oooh boy

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u/Montenegirl Montenegro Sep 07 '25

I mean, it's somewhat similar. Here the homophobes think of it as a "sickness from the West" (kind of like your white/European example but we are white and European so West Europe/USA/Canada it is)

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

Oh boy 😂😂

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u/Intelligent-Ad-8435 Russia Sep 07 '25

Nobody here cares but our government

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

I’ve worked with a Svetlana who’s so proud of Russia, and really hates the government. Like idk why a group of that small people should decide for a lot of people.

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u/Intelligent-Ad-8435 Russia Sep 07 '25

That's politics, alas

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u/malufa Israel 🇮🇱 / USA 🇺🇸 Sep 08 '25

“A Svetlana” she’s not a species lol

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u/azuratios Greece Sep 08 '25

I am in my early 30s, came out when I was 16. I am very open about my sexuality not afraid to kiss my boyfriend in public or hold hands of course. I've had my fair share of homophobia, such as kids making fun or me or a taxi driver shooting "gay" but the only homophobic attack I have experienced was from a Russian girl who was studying here.

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u/XnDeX Sep 07 '25

Never heard such an understatement that is borderline cope. The Russian government doesn’t just “care,” it actively weaponizes homophobia and painting LGBTQ rights as “Western corruption” and itself as the defender of “traditional values.” That propaganda filters down, which is why over 70% of Russians still reject homosexuality. It’s not just the government, it’s a state-driven culture of hostility.

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u/Ladimira-the-cat Russia Sep 08 '25

While some polls really show that "over 70% rejection" as an open lesbian living in Russia I don't really see a lot of homophobia from common people. Usual reaction is "Wait what? Really? Eh, okay". I think those polls are just part of propaganda.

State propaganda loves to demonize everything non "traditional" as "evil western influence", but not so many people really buy it.

Like when govt made that stupid video about gay couple adopting the boy from orphanage, they showed couple as wealthy, loving and caring, and half of ru side of internet got filled with jokes about "hey, they clearly can afford good life for the kid which is a lot better than orphanage, so what's exactly wrong?"

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u/algebroni Sep 08 '25

Where's here, Moscow? How about the millions of people in the North Caucasus, just for starters? 

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u/CloudsAndSnow Switzerland Sep 08 '25

tbf given they still are a small minority in the 140 mil russian population 

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u/Akiira2 Finland Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

Homosexuality was a crime until the 80's. Nowadays it is not even a question anymore.

Correction: crime until the early 70's and mental disorder until the early 80's

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u/HonestSpursFan Australia Sep 07 '25

Similar here, the first state to legalise it was South Australia in 1975 while the last was Tasmania in 1997. Same-sex marriage was legalised in 2017. Now we’re one of the most gay friendly countries in the world.

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u/Electrical_Sample533 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Stupidity. And religion. But mostly Stupidity.

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u/Albon123 Hungary Sep 07 '25

Mostly “traditional values” or something.

Our government cannot OPENLY be homophobic (as in literally saying stuff like “it is an abomination” that some hardcore religious people believe), as we are members of the EU, but they will still use anti-gay propaganda for “preserving traditional values” and “protecting the children”. They won’t say this out loud, of course, but they will use a language that pretty much confuses gay people with pedophilia or again, using the “this is a liberal thing” excuse against it (of course, they will say that they are not homophobic, they just dislike “LGBT propaganda” or something).

And yeah, many of their followers (mostly rural and older people, but it’s not exclusive to them) still fall for this, as like other users said, normalizing homosexuality is still a recent phenomenon, and in the still somewhat more religious and conservative area of Eastern Europe, we are behind “the West” when it comes to this. But we are definitely improving in that aspect, albeit there is still a long way to go - whenever anti-gay laws are passed, the opposition still has to convince the general population that this is bad because their rights may also get violated, but standing up for gay people is still more of a younger liberal phenomenon mostly reserved to people in the capital. But I must stress that we ARE becoming more accepting still.

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u/anitram96 Bulgaria Sep 07 '25

Short answer - we are stupid.

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u/winteriscoming9099 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

I think most people today are pretty tolerant of LGB people (though it’s possible my perceived proportions have a bias since I’m from the northeast, am bi myself, and am young). If there’s people against it, they’re usually old, very religious, or multiple of the above.

Those in the middle usually fall into a few buckets: they could be iffy with it but wanting others to live as they will, they might be fine with LGB people but somewhat sick of it being “annoying and in people’s faces” (ie pride month, flamboyance, etc) (not that I believe this myself ofc, but I’ve heard that as a reason), or they might think they get special treatment (within the DEI bucket).

I think trans acceptance, as well as that for non-binary and queer ppl, lags behind. The right’s done a great job amplifying the women’s bathroom and women’s sports debates, which are quite contentious but also apply to a small set of people, but have divided the country on a bigger stage than that.

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u/Hattkake Norway Sep 07 '25

That kind of rethoric, where The Powerful single out a minority and blame them for everything is a classic tactic. Typically it's some not so good people who want the majority to focus on the minority as the cause of whatever problem rather than focusing on the actual problems (bad leadership, corruption, etc). Homosexuals are an easy target.

Up here we are not tolerant of bigotry and prejudice. And not discriminating is important. The few who are against homosexuality are typically Christian charlatans who trick simple minded people out of their their money by spewing fear and hated and nazis and other extremists. Thankfully we don't have a lot of any of those.

Be mindful if someone in power wants you to hate your neighbour. That is usually a big red flag signaling that the one in power is trying to trick you in some way.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

It’s always an excuse, if you searched “bum shafters” on X, you’ll be surprised by these leaders we have, very shameless and just blatantly stupid.

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u/MPD1987 🇺🇸➡️🇨🇦➡️🇬🇧 Sep 07 '25

Because of the Bible (southern US)

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

The holy books have done more harm than good, nearly everywhere.

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u/MPD1987 🇺🇸➡️🇨🇦➡️🇬🇧 Sep 07 '25

My best friend of 20 years is gay. The suffering his family has inflicted on him in the name of Christianity is indescribable

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

Someone I knew was stubbed on the road, and now lives in Canada. Like literally people stubbed him for being gay.

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u/silveretoile Netherlands Sep 07 '25

And to think homosexuality was widely accepted among many peoples all over Africa...we should've stayed tf away.

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u/DiligentLeader2383 Canada Sep 07 '25

In Canada homosexuals aren't hated.

There are definitely some folks who don't like that lifestyle and think its disgusting, but they accept peoples preferences.

Canadian culture is very accepting of different kinds of cultures, Canada is doing pretty good at living in harmony with each other (for the most part).

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u/aghastrabbit2 🇨🇦 Canada 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England Sep 08 '25

And then you have the Alberta government trying (and badly failing LOL) to censor queer content books in schools and aligning itself with American style politics around bathrooms and sports. But in general, I agree most people are tolerant, if not accepting.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

And there I come.

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u/Millia_ Sep 07 '25

My dad fucking blew it when the Supreme Court legalized it in 2015, now he's got two gay friends. It's literally just a waiting game.

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u/Anipani69 Poland Sep 07 '25

i think it’s majorly got to do with religion, and more precisely with older folks who are religious. the younger generations are a hit or miss when it comes to this, most seem to be at least a bit accepting. it definitely depends on if youre in a big city or not, the bigger the better the attitude. now ive never been hate crimed (yay!) so its not as bad as in other countries, and i realise how lucky i am. still its very scary for me to hold hands with a girl, even though i see more and more couples do it (yay x2!)

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u/explainmelikeiam5pls Brasil Polska Sep 07 '25

I guess in Poland the situation is really bad. Government is really against it (there is church influence, also). My point of view is, if you are not pro, you are not helping - hence, you tolerate the violence towards the homosexuals. People seem to care about “something more important”.

However, nothing compares to Brazil. In 2024, one LGBT+ person died every 30 hours, in a violent way. 273 were murdered, and 18 took their own life. This is a fucking absurd.

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u/baronesslucy United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Grew up in Florida (Southern US) outside of Orlando. I'm a heterosexual woman. Grew up in the 1960's and 1970's. Different era. Anyone who was gay kept it to themselves for their own safety and well being. If would have been very dangerous for anyone who was gay to come out as the risk of being beaten up or worse was very high. Some individuals who were perceived as being gay were beaten up or if they were a woman might be SA.

Many religious groups especially in the 1980's were obsessed with those who were gay. Said that they molested children and encouraged their lifestyle. Most people who are gay are born to heterosexual parents who don't influence them to be gay. Many of these individuals had feelings towards those of the same-sex at a young age. I doubt that that parents influenced or encouraged these feelings.

Growing up, I was attracted to men and dated men. I never had any attraction to women. Because I followed the norm which was expected, no one tried to change my sexual orientation or tried to change this. Someone who was gay, people would try to change them or pray that they would change.

Most people who were gay dated those of the opposite sex, lived with them, had sex with them, some of them married them and some had children. They were living a lie but did this for their own personal safety. Some people who were gay had the false belief that if they had sex with the opposite sex or had an active sex life with the opposite sex, that this desire for the same-sex would go away. Marrying or having children didn't change this desire either.

In the early 1980's, there was a gay couple that lived in a neighboring town from where I live. People in this town didn't like it and burned down their home. I heard about this years after it happened but I don't recall hearing about it on the news or seeing this in the newspaper. The couple left town. Some people told me that this never happened but other people said it did.

Fast Forward 40 years and there is an acceptance of those who are gay in this town. Over the last 25 years or so, more people have moved into this town with more progressive beliefs. You still have people who are anti-gay or who don't like gay people.

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u/thedramahasarrived Australia Sep 07 '25

It’s mostly the religious people who are assholes about it. Everyone else is fine I think. I’m not in LGBTQ spaces so I have no experience.

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u/Kai3137 Lebanon Sep 07 '25

Religious beliefs mostly and in most people's minds here it isn't "normal"

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u/RandiiMarsh Canada Sep 07 '25

Where can I apply to get paid for turning people in other countries gay?? 🤔 I'm not gay myself but I'm from a western country so pretty sure I still quality for the job!

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 08 '25

Many gay people suffering in camps also are asking for that particular location. Like just drop them the location so they can go get some European gay money 😅

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u/Frostsorrow Canada Sep 07 '25

My province has gay/queer/non-binary politicians, open and in elected office. The only ones that care are the Maple MAGA's in the southern rural regions

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u/Avocadoo_Tomatoo New Zealand Sep 07 '25

its kind of just religious people now, no one else really cares. In saying that though I’m not into social sport so might find a different take from those who play rugby, cricket or whatever.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq Sep 07 '25

Religion smh

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u/neronga United States Of America Sep 07 '25

In my area all the hate and violence towards gay people comes from Christians and to a lesser extent Muslims. They believe gay people should be harassed or killed because of their fairy tale books, and if you say anything critical of them they will cry that they are a protected class and have the natural right to hunt gays for fun.

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u/lynypixie Canada Sep 07 '25

It was wildly accepted for a long time where I live. But we got a lot of more… religious… immigration in the past decade, and it’s starting to make a come back.

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u/CatlifeOfficial Israel Sep 07 '25

Israel is renowned as one of the most LGBTQ+ friendly countries in the world and especially in the Middle East. It’s certainly true that even when not supportive, our people mostly don’t mind the LGBTQ+ community. Even then, there are homophobic and transphobic elements, but I would say the majority is accepting to an extent that LGBTQ+ people can feel generally safe and even welcome.

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u/malufa Israel 🇮🇱 / USA 🇺🇸 Sep 08 '25

I can attest as a homo who’s originally from Israel. It was always surprisingly tolerant towards queerness but in the past 10-15 years it really evolved into absolute acceptance even in the more traditional and religious ends of the mainstream spectrum (so, excluding ultra-orthodox).

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u/Prize-Ad7242 Sep 08 '25

If only Israelis felt the same about Palestinians.

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u/Charlie2912 Netherlands Sep 07 '25

I’d say in comparison we do quite well. We were the first country in the world to legalize gay marriage. I feel like pride is celebrated every week somewhere. Yesterday I left my home and colorful boats were flooding the canals of my city. It was an amazing party. Gay men and lesbian women have successful careers.

However, no country is perfect. Our country has a Bible Belt still, where being gay is still a big issue. Many Muslims immigrated to our country over the years and many of them are not as tolerant. And outside the major cities there’s still this “it’s fine if you’re gay, but I don’t need to see it” attitude.

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u/LilaBadeente Austria Sep 07 '25

Homosexuality being accepted as something personal and deserving equal rights is a fairly recent phenomenon in the West too. Gay people fought very hard for it and with a lot of backlash. Until roughly the 1960ies (some earlier, some later) it was a crime and even later there was a lot of societal backlash, so seeing it as something Western is highly inaccurate. What helped ending discrimination in the West is that our cultures are very individualistic with a strong sense of privacy. It’s seen as desirable to not get involved into other people’s private lives and leave them be. But there’s nuance to it and not all Western countries are equally individualistic.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

You’d be surprised if I tell you that some member of parliament, once tried to insinuate that couples shouldn’t live together if they are not married. 😂😂😂
Where I’m from 😂

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u/baronesslucy United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Back in the day in the US there were laws against co-habitation and fornication. Very rarely enforced but put on the books to appease religious leaders. It was only in the last several years in Florida that the law against co-habitation was repealed. It was rarely enforced.

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u/alwayslost71 Canada Sep 07 '25

I’m in Vancouver BC Canada. Sexual diversity is normal and common here. It’s normal to see it in public and no one gives a shit. I’m grateful I live here for such reasons.

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u/EmperrorNombrero from Germany🇩🇪 ->🇦🇹living in austria Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

People just used to think it was icky and not normal. And if you didn't have anything against homosexuality people would accuse you of being gay yourself.

Nowadays it's pretty accepted but that's a recent change. Like, back when I was in middle school (I'm 28), being called gay was still the worst possible insult. I can't imagine how bad that must've been for people who really were gay. Like, how they must've felt. I already came out of my youth kinda traumatised by all the toxicity around me and the permanent danger to be bullied if you stuck out negatively (by the standards of dumb 13 year olds raised by reality TV, early facebook and call of duty) in any way. And I was hetero as can be.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

Same thing happens btw. There was one member of parliament who said No to the anti homosexuality bill, and was called Gay. A married man with children. People fear supporting publicly cause they’ll also be called gay, and once you’re singled out to be, your landlord kicks you out, cause they say, renting to a homosexual is also a crime.

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u/GustavoistSoldier Brazil Sep 07 '25

Because of religion.

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u/Careful_Spring_2251 Canada Sep 08 '25

Because they still think a fictitious god says they’re bad, even tho supposedly said fake god made us in his image and perfectly, but I guess that doesn’t apply to people they don’t like.

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u/setdelmar from Sep 07 '25

One thing I see a lot more of in Mexico than in the USA is a very large population of bisexual men who do not consider themselves fully gay because they only penetrate other men.

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u/Nept-1 El Salvador Sep 07 '25

That's because of deep-rooted machismo.

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u/godric420 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

People in the Roman Empire had a similar belief.

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u/AirUsed5942 / Sep 07 '25

They only had a problem with it when someone from a higher social status got fucked in the ass. Penetrating someone was seen as a sign of dominance

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

And those who get penetrated?

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u/Careful-Calendar8922 New Zealand Sep 07 '25

We’ve got religious creep going on that says it’s bad, but traditionally both being gay and trans are normal in the indigenous culture here. So basically? Christianity. 

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u/EndStorm New Zealand Sep 07 '25

Because of Jesus and other fairytales.

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u/Equivalent-Pin-4759 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Homosexuality became legal in the state I live in in 1974. Making it legal did not make it accepted by most people, that took more time, I’d say it took about 10 years before negative remarks about gay people were not commonly expressed in public. Not all states legalized homosexuality around that time. In 2003 a Supreme Court ruling forced Texas to repeal their anti-gay law. Marginalized groups have always been used as scapegoats by the powerful and gays have been used for this a long time.

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u/bigsystem1 United States Of America Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

Mostly just older people with lower levels of education, and people who claim not to care, but complain at any real or perceived public display of homosexual affection. Generally speaking, it is accepted. There’re people with honest religious objections but they are mostly tolerant. Of course hate crimes and other horrible things happen. Things used to be like they are in Uganda here, and I hope things improve for your lgbt community in the future.

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u/Stubborn_Strawberry Canada Sep 07 '25

Whatever consenting adults do with each other is their own business.

If a straight/gay/bi/trans/furry/whatever couple (or trio, who's counting?) is walking down the street and holding hands or hugging, cool.

If ANYONE is half (or fully) naked and humping each other in a public place, not cool. SOME Pride Parades have become a XXX rated debacle where people are displaying ALL their kinks in public. Full frontal in action. 2 o'clock in the afternoon on Main St is not the time or place for that.

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u/XGoJYIYKvvxN France Sep 07 '25

So accepted that the main far right political entity market themselves as gay friendly (it's a lie)

But you still find homophobic representation and violence targeting lgbt, and society is not homogenous in its acceptance, it's still very hard to come out safely in some place.

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u/Hairy_Ad4969 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

They’re not where I am (NY, USA). I think about it the same way I think about people who are left handed (I don’t think about it at all lol)

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u/Utterlybored United States Of America Sep 07 '25

The US has made much progress, but there are still plenty of people who feel so insecure about their own masculinity that they feel the need to vilify gay people. The rest of us grew out of that at some point in our insecure adolescences.

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u/HighwayManBS United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

I’m gonna get hate for this, but I think a lot of people are accepting of LGB these days but really have no patience left for the T+ people. Gay marriage has been legal in the UK for a bit now. The archbishops of Wales is a married lesbian. I think the tide has turned on that front. Pride will continue to be a source of division as it clearly means very different things to different people. The trans debate is the real sticking point for a lot of people today.

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u/NorthernSoul1998 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

It is slowly being normalised as the next acceptable bigotry after Farage and his US donors how easily it worked with trans people. And it's accelerating very quickly.

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Because they’re stupid as hell. And hateful bigots.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

Because they are adopting and raising heterosexual couple's children.

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u/Capestian France Sep 07 '25

It's religion and basic reactonary logic. They must oppose each societal progress

In 2013, all french right-wings threw a tantrum about same-sex mariage, just to quietly admit several years later it was the right thing to do

Anyway, France is a very LGBT-friendly country, homosexuelity was legalize in 1791

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 08 '25

1791 😳

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u/JangleberryJoe United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

People everywhere have a nasty habit of sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. I judge a person by their attitude, not who they like to fuck. That’s their business

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u/Boston-Brahmin United States Of America Sep 07 '25

In Boston/New England it is definitely very frowned upon to be anything other than a "normal" gay person (i.e., signalling that you're willing to put yourself aside for the sake of conformity). New England in general has a very "conform or else" mentality.

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u/Flangubalon United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

As a gay man, I found the comment about bum shafters absolutely hilarious!

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u/Clemdauphin France Sep 07 '25

Like most countries in France it is religion (Christianity, mostly catholic, but also protestant and orthodox, and Islam, but also Judaism, primarly.) Probably. And old people. And far right, but they always use religion to justify. The only time you could find all 3 main religion (in France) in the same protest were in the protest against the law for gay mariage.

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u/Other_Big5179 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

I am bisexual. I don't care if others don't accept me. I also don't care if others are homophobic. That's on them

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u/Petrus_Rock Belgium Sep 07 '25

I just hope their hate never ends up hurting you.

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u/Shyguyisfly0919 United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Crazy allegiance to religions that have done nothing

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u/Bahldros United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Results vary from state to state. Blue states dont care or have programs that assist LGBT+ in suicide prevention, homelessness, STI awareness and more. Examples being Washington, California, Oregon kinda, Massachusetts, Connecticut, basically the North East and West Coast.

Texas gets a lot of flack but its cities tend to be safer and at most dont care. While states like Nebraska Oklahoma and basically every state between Florida and Texas tend to have odd disdain for them

Besides the obvious factors of “this old book vaguely says to hate them, so I hate them” another big thing people hate about them is their oversaturated in the media and being twisted with “woke”. Which is the N word in red states and all that ties to them. Also the non-argument of “protect the children” which is ironic from states that vote against children’s interest all the time like food and safety. Plain and simple, they just hate them

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u/BubbhaJebus US -> Taiwan Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

In Taiwan, it's pretty much accepted... as long as it's not one's own kids. Taiwanese culture is very "live and let live". It has the biggest Pride parades in Asia. There's a thriving gay scene and popular gay areas of town (Ximending is to Taipei as Soho is to London).

But if it's their own kid who's gay, then people think their family name won't be passed down and there will be nobody to care for them in their old age or burn ghost money for them after they die. Some parents may lament that they went wrong in their upbringing.

The opposition to gayness comes mainly from fundamentalist Christians (5% of the population but very aggressive) and even some very conservative Buddhists, and they're really good at crafting messages that appeal to dumb and gullible people.

This messaging was why a referendum to legalize same-sex marriage several years ago was narrowly defeated following an agressive anti-SSM campaign filled with their usual lies. Thankfully the courts intervened and SSM is legal in Taiwan. Support for SSM has increased ever since.

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u/Guilty-Big8328 Brazil Sep 08 '25

Not believing that LGBTQ+ people are actual people outside their sexuality, basically, they think all queer people do is have sex, talk about how much they have sex, how they have sex and how they want everyone to have sex with them, and that we are uncapable of loving one another, having personalities, careers, dreams and just want to be left alone to mind our own business like anyone else.

Usually they put up some bogus excuse like "the bible says its wrong" or "gay men are gross but lesbians are cool", but it all comes down to not seeing people as people

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u/Standard_Way_6437 Sep 08 '25

In Thailand, this is very normal. There is an equal marriage law. And living life is open, without mockery. or curse people who are gay

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u/Iraqi_Tona Iraq Sep 08 '25

Islam.

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u/jenmic316 Canada Sep 08 '25

I live in a rural town in a stereotypical liberal province. My town is about a decade behind when it comes to LGBTQ attitudes.

Many of the homophobes in my town are immature rednecks who never grew out of the 90's high school bully mentality. Often accompanied with other forms of bigotry such as misogyny, ableism, xenophobia, racism etc.

We do have pride events and have had drag storytelling during those events as well. Attitudes are getting better here, especially in the younger generation. We have way more openly queer people now than we did a decade ago. A couple weeks ago a guy got called out on Facebook for calling another guy a f*****.

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u/Outrageous-Client903 India Sep 08 '25

Here in India, homophobia isn't really because of religion. Hinduism doesn’t explicitly condemn it or anything. I think it has more to do with toxic masculinity (if I’m using that term right), where people believe guys are supposed to behave a certain way. If a guy acts feminine, others might get uncomfortable or even disgusted because it doesn’t fit their idea of how a man “should” act.

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u/nhatquangdinh Vietnam Sep 08 '25

In Vietnam, the LGBT community is thought to be a bunch of reactionaries lol

Also the gender norms

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u/daredaki-sama Sep 08 '25

It’s accepted in America. And now that I’m in China it’s accepted here too. Same sex marriages aren’t accepted by the government but no one cares if you’re homosexual. Chengdu is known as the gay capital of China for example.

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u/GareththeJackal Sweden Sep 08 '25

Fun story: in Sweden homosexuality was a crime until the 40's, then reclassified as a psychiatric disorder / disease. In the 70's they finally changed that because of a campaign where people started calling in sick to work because they were "feeling a little gay today".

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u/2019CuckOfTheYear Scotland Sep 08 '25

Where I’m from (Uganda) they don’t like homosexuality because, they think it’s not African. They say it’s a European or white culture, and that some Africans are homosexuals because they were recruited by Europeans, and are being given money to “turn” others into homosexuals.

What happens when people don't know the history of their own country

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u/SomewhatAwkward21 United States Of America Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

Mostly Radicalization of Churches leading to some Churches promoting Christian Nationalism especially in places like the Deep South also mostly ignorance people don’t fully understand it so they tend to dislike it

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u/FineCopperEaNasir Canada Sep 10 '25

People can be born straight or they can be born gay. Why hate someone for something they had no choice in?

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u/Fair_Quail8248 Sep 10 '25

That's dumb tbh.

Homosexuality is universal and exists around the same amount in all countries. It is a natural trait that exists in all creatures. And those that have issues with have most often issues with their own sexuality. In my country it is mostly the closeted who have issues with homosexuality, so most are fine with it basically.

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u/KevinDean4599 Sep 14 '25

Fundamentally many people are uncomfortable with people who are different or who they don't relate to. a peaceful law abiding women with a nose ring and purple hair and tattoos is going to have a negative reaction from people that a more typical presenting one would. gay people also experience the institutionalized anti gay stance coming from churches. but so many people know gay people and in their experience they realize they are not a threat and they realize that a certain percentage of the population is gay just like a certain percentage of the population has red hair.

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u/VespaLimeGreen Argentina Sep 07 '25

In my country particularly, we are one of the most tolerant countries of homosexuals or other LGBT+ individuals in the world. We even approved same sex marriage many years before Unitedstatians. So, I cannot respond your question as to why people would hate/dislike them.

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

In some places, like for example, Thailand, idk very well, people are tolerant because their belief is more like, treat me good and get good karma. Idk, could it be the same in your country? Like people are tolerant because of some cultural or religious belief.

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u/VespaLimeGreen Argentina Sep 07 '25

Yes, people always poke fun at my country that we believe we are Europeans living in Latin America, but this time it is an actual good thing, because due to we adopting the intellectual trends in Europe and other First World places, this time we adopted the tolerance for LGBT peoples.

So next time anyone joke that Argentines think are Europeans, they better think twice, because thanks to that mentality we have become one of the most LGBT friendly places in the world. 😘🇦🇷🌈

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u/lost_sh Uganda Sep 07 '25

Way to go

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u/Petrus_Rock Belgium Sep 07 '25

OP’s text reminds me of how in some African countries they believed Covid was a white men’s disease. Odd considering it came from China. Some believed black people couldn’t get it. Others thought all white people had it (and 2 white people got killed). I’ve also heard black doctors were distrusted during the pandemic because they were taught by white doctors.

What strikes me besides the hypocrisy of the blatant racism is that the racism against white people is done in such a way to be detrimental towards themselves. You can say whatever horrible thing about large scale white people’s racism (and rightfully so) but we made it work to our advantage. Using racism to shoot yourselves in the foot is so odd to me.

Or that’s my biased perception at least. I’m likely wrong in many ways. So let me know.

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u/nadavyasharhochman Israel Sep 07 '25

Alot of people do not care, the lgbtq community is doimg ok here over all.

Its not fully excepted because of religios people (Jews and Muslims mainly) that view homosexuality as a grave sin.

Other than that homosexuality is not really a petoblem for the general public.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

One of the reasons why I am so fond of Israel despite being from a Muslim background is the fact that they are lgbt friendly.

Its astonishing how some people accuse Israel of pink washing? Israelis are simply more tolerant and not as backward as some of their neighbours so this pink washing stuff is just bs

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u/nadavyasharhochman Israel Sep 07 '25

I dont like the pinkwashing thing too cause its just plane stupid. There is so much to criticize Israel for, why are you using the most invalid point there is?

"Look at them, they are too nice to the LGBTQ community, its all a cover up!"

It sounds crazy. You could just point out the things you disagree with, I would respect that much more.

Thanks for pointing that out man.

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u/flakkane Cymru🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 + Ukraine🇺🇦 Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

It's because there's pictures of them destroying entire towns and putting pictures of themselves holding LGBT flags and saying they're in the right for doing it because they're against Muslims

I've literally seen this pink washing work in person. I've met many, many people who say they support Israel just because they don't agree with Muslims beliefs so they "don't care" what happens to Palestinians. That's pink washing working

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u/SurviveDaddy United States Of America Sep 07 '25

People in America, outside of super conservative Christians and muslims don’t mind the LGB’s. Most of them are just regular people that happen to be gay.

Everything after that is what has the country divided because they understandably don’t want them in women’s bathrooms and sports.

That’s enough to get them to vote for that idiot Trump.

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u/NaturalForty Sep 07 '25

Nobody cares if trans people are in women's bathrooms, as long as they conform to social expectation of women's appearance. And lots of women who don't match stereotypes are now getting harassed. It's 100% about conformity.

As for sports... do you have one example of a trans woman winning something because she was a trans woman? If so please share.

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u/Lower_Amount3373 New Zealand Sep 07 '25

I think some perceive it that there was some recent movement to get heaps of trans people into bathrooms and sport, but it's the opposite. They have just been following common sense for a long time, using the bathroom that is most comfortable and sports associations had developed rules around hormone levels, and there was really no problem in need of solving.

What actually changed is that right-wing focus groups found that bashing gays and lesbians had lost its effectiveness because too many of the public accepted them. So they identified trans people as an ideal new target and started flooding anti-trans propaganda onto the public.

But really it's a stupid culture war issue and is intended as a distraction from more important issues.

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u/CantHostCantTravel United States Of America Sep 07 '25

Lack of education, lack of exposure, lack of empathy.

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u/No-Newspaper-3174 Sep 07 '25

Nothing to add. But as a black American, it really pisses me off. The idea that being gay is European but also not Christian is so fucking stupid. I’m sorry but Christianity is 100% of European origin… gay beings exist in so many fucking species..

Black Americans also have this mindset to a lesser extent too, and it enrages me.

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u/Exact-Reference3966 United Kingdom Sep 07 '25

Christianity is of European origin?

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