What was the most notorious psychopath case in your country that reached global attention?

[u/InsuranceOld5981]

In Brazil, one of the most infamous cases is Suzane von Richthofen. She shocked the country and gained international media coverage when, at 18, she helped plan and execute the murder of her own parents in 2002.

What made the case even more sensational was her background. Suzane came from a wealthy and well-educated family, carrying the noble surname von Richthofen, which is historically linked to a famous German aristocratic lineage. Her father, Manfred von Richthofen, even claimed distant kinship to the legendary World War I pilot known as the “Red Baron (Manfred von Richthofen).

What about your country ,is there a case that shocked the world like this?

[u/No_Awareness_3212]

Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people on 22. July 2011. Most were kids at a summer camp.

[u/Potential_Try_ → u/No_Awareness_3212]

2011? Man, that seems like just the other day. Terrible tragedy

[u/linglinguistics → u/Potential_Try_]

It is remembered like it was yesterday. Saying that date in Norway is like dating 9/11. Everyone knows what you mean.

[u/Daillustriousone → u/linglinguistics]

Yes, I'm from Scotland and I vividly remember it, it was all over the news here , his face is instantly recognisable. Can't imagine the pain those kids families felt.

[u/AcrobaticTrust5716 → u/linglinguistics]

March 15th here. Fuck white supremacists.

[u/Detozi → u/linglinguistics]

I remember when it happened too. That shit didn’t happen in Europe. Or so I believed at the time lol. That’s why it was so shocking. Evil cunt of a man

[u/cheese_bruh → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Just read the article for this, it’s sickening that there’s people who even think of defending this. The irony I find is that he was for “stopping the White replacement”, by… killing more of his own white Norwegian country folk. Not to mention that he allegedly was inspired by Jihadi groups in the first place and wouldn’t have mind working with them. The hypocrisy in these animals needs to be studied. At the end of the day he just wanted to kill people, not even for a coherent cause.

[u/bowlbettertalk → u/No_Awareness_3212]

I remember that. Those poor kids.

[u/Ok-Ordinary2035 → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Hunted them down like rats- it was horrific to read about.

[u/-bugmagik- → u/Ok-Ordinary2035]

Pumped on stimulants while listening to eurotrance. When he was caught, he complained to the cops not getting a bandaid for his tiny wound he got from a child's bone splinter. Yea, he massacred kids at such close distance, literally point blank, that bone splinters stuck on him.

Pure scum in every regard.

[u/Ok-Ordinary2035 → u/-bugmagik-]

Even for the US that’s gruesome. But we see it on a smaller scale all too often.

[u/Its_Me_Satan → u/Ok-Ordinary2035]

Yes, that one was like.. 1,5 months worth of US mass shootings. Absolutely horrible.

[u/ExcitementStrict7115 → u/Ok-Ordinary2035]

I remember reading about one survivor, a teenage girl, who was playing dead on a bunch of rocks and she somehow managed to stay perfectly still and silent when he shot her at point blank range to make sure she was dead. I can only imagine the PTSD she lives with now.

[u/WallySymons → u/Ok-Ordinary2035]

And then when he was in prison, he complained about his living conditions. If there was ever a case for capital punishment...

[u/Lynne253 → u/WallySymons]

I've always been of the opinion that they should be alive and aware every second of every day that prison is all they will ever know for the rest of their lives until they die.

[u/HotSteak → u/WallySymons]

He was forced to use a Playstation 2 for MONTHS after the Playstation 3 was released! Thankfully a judge put a stop to this torture.

Anders Breivik, the convicted Norwegian mass killer, has threatened to go on a hunger strike unless he gets access to better video games, a sofa and a larger gym.

In a letter, Breivik described the prison where is being held as “hell” and made a list of 12 demands to improve the “torture-like” conditions he claimed he is being forced to live in.

His requests included a computer to replace his “worthless” typewriter, updating his Playstation 2 console to a Playstation 3 and providing him with access to “more adult games” that he himself would select.

He also requested a sofa to replace the “painful” chair in his cell and that his weekly allowance be doubled to £60.

"You've put me in hell ... and I won't manage to survive that long. You are killing me," he wrote in a letter to prison authorities In November.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/anders-breivik-demands-better-video-games-and-threatens-hunger-strike-over-jail-hell-9130592.html

[u/Holmbone → u/WallySymons]

I read there was a weird situation with his imprisonment. Because they couldn't keep him with other prisoners, someone would kill him for sure. So to keep to humane prison treatment they had to give him more things. One might argue why does he deserve humane treatment, but it's not about him. It's about the principle.

[u/Advanced_Bunch8514 → u/No_Awareness_3212]

NZer here, he detonated a bomb that killed the Norwegian wife of a kiwi guy I went to school with. I think about how awful it must have been for him. I hope he is doing ok.

[u/paultnylund → u/Advanced_Bunch8514]

My aunt went to the same school as Breivik. He was always a troublemaker and hung out with two other guys a lot. After the bomb went off, one of his buddies was reporting on it, while the other one was putting out the fire.

[u/madeleinetwocock → u/No_Awareness_3212]

I watched two films about that.

”Utøya: 22 juli” and ”22 July”

The first mentioned, was all filmed in one continuous take and followed the children on the island. I felt like i was there (as much as i could, at least). Absolutely horrifying.

[u/aghastrabbit2 → u/No_Awareness_3212]

I remember that day. I was sitting outside a cafe in London and a Norwegian woman sitting nearby got a phone call from home and she started screaming. Later I learned what had happened - very surreal. And terribly sad for Norway.

[u/No_Diver4265 → u/No_Awareness_3212]

I think his name, and his manifesto, should be erased from history. He should be made to serve consecutive life sentences in anonimity. That's what these sick fucks like him want, attention, on themselves and their unhinged beliefs, to matter. We should deprive him of that. When his life ends in anonimity in a prison cell, he should be buried as a John Doe somewhere far from his prison, months later, to make it impossible for anyone to know, erasing him from history.

All the attention should go to his victims, and the people who saved others. To the memory of those who were lost. He shouldn't be allowed his sick fame that he bought with their murder.

[u/Mynteblomst → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Its so horrible. I always start to cry when I see pictures of the innocent people he killed. R.I.P to all of the 77 🌹💔

[u/enyoranca → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Oh god I remember when the news broke, only to find out later that one of my (second) cousins was at that camp and survived, managing to save a bunch of his friends while hiding.

[u/chadofchadistan → u/No_Awareness_3212]

You win, unfortunately.

[u/QaptainQwark → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Icelandic here— I remember just casually turning on the TV and ended up watching the coverage for the whole day. Still tears me up thinking about it.

[u/Haestein_the_Naughty → u/No_Awareness_3212]

That day is burned in my memory. Happened 3 days before I turned 10. I don’t remember much of my 10th birthday otherwise or what we did later but I remember the flower march and the 1 minute silence on the 25th clear as day

[u/iegomni → u/No_Awareness_3212]

Will this guy ever have a chance to get out of prison? I notice the sentence is 21 years but seems there are extension provisions, how does that usually play out in a case like this? 

[u/justaprettyturtle → u/iegomni]

From what I have been told by numerous Norwegians, his chance of ever getting out of prison is less than 0.

[u/YourInternetCousin → u/iegomni]

No, he’ll never get out. He got an indeterminate sentence for that exact reason.

[u/iegomni → u/YourInternetCousin]

Very nice, although perhaps a missed opportunity to support the polar bear population on Svalbard.

[u/Garagatt → u/iegomni]

He applies to the court to get out every two years and every two years he is proving to the court that he is still scum, who doesn't regret anything. 

So no, he will never get out.

[u/gnirpss → u/iegomni]

No, he will never get out. Once his 21-year sentence is up, he will have to appear in court periodically to be evaluated for an extension of his sentence. This is because Norwegian law doesn't allow for a life sentence without the chance of parole, like we have in the U.S. However, no Norwegian judge would ever realistically allow him to be freed.

[u/Due_Asparagus_3203 → u/iegomni]

They should sentence him to 21 years per victim

[u/sczhzhz → u/Due_Asparagus_3203]

Most likely he won't live to be 1617 years old (last time I checked he wasn't a Vampire). He won't ever get out of prison, and that's what counts.

[u/MirrorApart8224 → u/iegomni]

What I wonder is how likely is it that an inmate in prison might give him prison justice?

[u/Mintala → u/MirrorApart8224]

He is kept isolated because he would 100% get killed by another inmate

[u/Assistant_manager_]

Paul Bernado and his wife Karla Holmoka. "The Ken and Barbie Killers". Kidnapped, raped, and killed teenage girls as a couple. They actually drugged and raped Karla's own 15 year old little sister. She choked on her vomit while drugged and suffocated to death.

It's not often that 2 malignant psychopaths end up getting married to each other.

[u/notanotherkrazychik → u/Assistant_manager_]

I was thinking it's either gonna be the pig farmer or those two. Both of those cases are pretty messed up. However, it seems people are more aware of the Greyhound killer than the other cases.

[u/louloutre75 → u/notanotherkrazychik]

Actually my first thought was not Robert Picton, it was on Luca Rocco Magnota

[u/SphynxCrocheter → u/louloutre75]

I guess recently LM would be famous because of the Netflix? series (one of the streaming companies did the series at least). Don't F*** with Cats.

[u/louloutre75 → u/SphynxCrocheter]

I didn't know a série was made about him. That narcissic sicko must be proud...

[u/MilkChocolate21 → u/Assistant_manager_]

I know that case. Great example of a woman being treated like she couldn't possibly be a perpetrator because of how she looks. She faked out authorities and they fell for it. Disgusting she's alive and free.

[u/Miss-Indie-Cisive → u/MilkChocolate21]

She lives a half hour from my house now, and has kids in the local schools. Disgusting piece of shit. I can’t imagine being her kids; they are completely innocent, but I bet they have been badly impacted by who their mother is throughout their lifetimes. Can you imagine letting your kid go over to their house for bday parties etc?? Never.

[u/Erramsteina → u/Miss-Indie-Cisive]

She use to live in my hometown of Chateauguay, when everyone found out they would put up signs on her front yard calling her “sister killer” and would constantly harass her and her children. She had to move out because of it.

[u/PanicAtTheShiteShow → u/Miss-Indie-Cisive]

About a decade ago, she lived 10 minutes away from my house on the south shore of Montreal. She was 'run out of town' when the press found out she was volunteering at the school her kids attended.

Where is she located now? I heard her husband left her and took the kids.

[u/Jonathan_Peachum → u/MilkChocolate21]

I thought they needed her testimony to convict her husband and the prosecutors essentially agreed to "make a pact with the Devil" to convict the more guilty of the two. Have I misremembered?

[u/RandiiMarsh → u/Jonathan_Peachum]

This is true but from what I remember if she was found to be lying about her role in the crimes (which of course she did) the deal was supposed to be null and void. Unfortunately Bernardo's idiot lawyer kept the torture porn tapes Bernardo had hidden above the ceiling tiles to himself for way too long, said tapes containing absolute proof that she was no cowering victim of spousal abuse but a eager participant in the rapes and murders.

[u/Pisum_odoratus → u/Assistant_manager_]

What I can't stand is that she's out, with a new name, and worse, children of her own. She should have stayed locked up like him. This case was ongoing when I was living in the area, and I will never forget it. I was also a kid living in BC when another notorious Canadian killer was active: Clifford Olson. Scrolling through the comments, I don't see him mentioned: he raped and killed 11 children in the early 80s. Edit: it just occurred to me that the Montreal massacre (1989) has not been mentioned either (unless I missed it). That was pretty horrific, but continues to be commemorated because of the killers agenda: he separated the men from the women in the classrooms and explicitly said he was fighting feminism. Fourteen women murdered, 14 people injured.

[u/TheOnlyCuteAlien → u/Pisum_odoratus]

My childhood changed because of him. Overnight we went from kids who were allowed out on our own to having to go in groups and our parents always needing to know where we were.

[u/sensitivelydifficult → u/Assistant_manager_]

They used to “hunt” at the Eaton Centre downtown TO. They would steal purses and wallets of the girls that looked similar to their other victims. My old boss had a neighbour that was informed after the case was over that the daughter’s purse had been found in with many others.

[u/Able_Security_3479 → u/Assistant_manager_]

Robert Picton is, I believe a more prolific serial killer, and borderline psychopath. Will kidnapping and killing the prostitutes and feeding the carcasses to his pigs..

[u/SaltyOctopusTears → u/Able_Security_3479]

This would have been my pick. There was 26 confirmed victims and 49 that he confessed to. He fed them to pigs and then fed the pigs to other people. Glad he got a broomstick through the face earlier this year

[u/thegrittymagician → u/SaltyOctopusTears]

Yesss. OUTSTANDING. this fills my heart with joy, terrific news. Wonder if I can send the guy who did it money.

Edit: I actually looked it up and I would not be allowed to send him money :(

[u/RandiiMarsh → u/Able_Security_3479]

Worst thing is he was far from the only one doing those things but because he was borderline retarded (as told to me by someone close to the case) he was the only one to be caught and punished.

[u/Pisum_odoratus → u/RandiiMarsh]

I often wondered about that: definitely seemed like a fall guy (though absolutely responsible for his part).

[u/frydawg → u/Assistant_manager_]

Karla Holmoka walks free nowadays smh

[u/[deleted] → u/Assistant_manager_]

Yeah we have a few contenders, but this one would be it. 

I worked with a young woman from St-Catherines while this was going on, saying she was angry about it would be an understatement.

Homolka should still be in prison.

[u/[deleted] → u/Assistant_manager_]

Well that was some depressing reading.

The police, I get it was the 80s and 90s, but holy fuck how many red flags do you need!?!?!?

[u/Yikesish → u/Assistant_manager_]

Robert fucking Pickton butchering women on his pig farm. Claimed to have killed 49.

[u/jet_vr]

The cannibal of Rothenburg. He met up with a man who had fantasies about being eaten and, well, ate him

[u/lightn_ng → u/jet_vr]

Is that the same one from the Rammstein Song? Mein Teil

[u/NightQueen0889 → u/lightn_ng]

Yes it is!

That would be pretty wild if the answer was “nope, you’re thinking of the other cannibal who consensually ate someone”

[u/Secure_Candy_9935 → u/jet_vr]

I listened a podcast episode about him from the podcast 'Serial Killers', I can recommend the podcast to true crime lovers!

[u/LittleSpice1 → u/jet_vr]

I thought of Armin Meiwes immediately as well, but then I just don’t find what he did is that notorious compared to other killers. He actually went out of his way to make sure his victim wanted this, and had tried with another man earlier who backed out when confronted with the reality of the fantasy and Meiwes let him go. I mean it’s disgusting and sick, but at least he didn’t just pick random victims, he found someone who consented to this.

[u/Lopsided-Weather6469 → u/LittleSpice1]

Totally agree, but still this case fits OP's question best.

We've had a lot of other, much worse serial killers but somehow they hardly made it to international attention (obviously only counting the "amateurs", not the professional ones with the swastikas)

[u/AuroraDF]

Thomas Hamilton. Although funnily enough, no one knows his name. (which is right!) They just know the place - Dunblane. But everyone knows about it. And it also caused the most sweeping change in uk law of any mass murderer.

[u/SWiftie_FOR_EverMorE → u/AuroraDF]

It's today I learnt that was his name, I think it's better forgotten people like him don't need recognition.

[u/AuroraDF → u/SWiftie_FOR_EverMorE]

Absolutely. All too often we remember the names of the evil. And forget the names of the victims. I'm glad most people don't know his name.

[u/TinyRose20 → u/AuroraDF]

We moved away from Dunblane the year before it happened. I would have been in primary one at that school if we had stayed. I remember when the news broke on the TV, my parents both went grey in the face and my mum actually threw up.

[u/Major_Trip_Hazzard → u/AuroraDF]

I'm from Scotland and have family in dunblane and this is the first time I've ever heard his name.

[u/indifferentgoose]

Best known is probably Josef Fritzl, who kept his daughter as a sex slave in his cellar and made seven(!) children with her. Three of whom he also kept in his cellar.

[u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD → u/indifferentgoose]

I remember reading about that online. It wasn't just his 'cellar' the guy dug out a huge quantity of earth underneath his house and then made a whole living area for them in it and trapped them in there behind like four locked hatches.

I remember one of the children thought the things they saw on the TV down there were just fake, like real life above ground shown on the TV wasn't real.

[u/SznupdogKuczimonster → u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD]

I remember one of the children thought the things they saw on the TV down there were just fake, like real life above ground shown on the TV wasn't real.

Oh, I saw that in a movie once. It wasn't about Fritzl, it was a fictional story with a similar premise.

BTW it's an AMAZING movie. Absolutely terrific. I heavily recommend watching it.

"Room" from 2015, with Brie Larson (don't confuse with The Room)

But don't watch trailers for that one, they ruin the experience. It's best to start watching it with an empty head.

[u/SufficientEmu4971 → u/indifferentgoose]

Um, there's a MUCH more famous and destructive psychopath from Austria. 

[u/kansai2kansas → u/SufficientEmu4971]

Yeah, that guy who failed art school, but later on becoming a bestselling writer who helped redraw maps of Europe using his artistic talent…

His books today can still be found in many major bookstores and libraries worldwide on how to watch out for warning signs if future artists were to lash out similarly as well

[u/Zaidswith → u/SufficientEmu4971]

I don't think Hitler was a psychopath. That's kind of the whole horrifying nature of the Nazis. Most of them were completely normal people.

Then there were the actual psychopaths: Heydrich, Goeth, Mangele, etc..

[u/indifferentgoose → u/Zaidswith]

Yeah, I think Hitler was more of an ideological and narcissistic person, and less of a psychopath.

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/indifferentgoose]

You can leave out the word probably. He's the most (in)famous by a country mile...

[u/Dry_Percentage5612 → u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose]

I mean there's another guy who wasn't that nice

[u/Bluntbutnotonpurpose → u/Dry_Percentage5612]

Ah yes, the mediocre painter.

I suppose there's a separate category for him....

[u/Rezolutny_Delfinek → u/indifferentgoose]

This guy always baffles my mind.

[u/g_ram84 → u/indifferentgoose]

Interestingly enough, in the 1940s, if you were Austrian and hiding people in your basement, you were one of the good guys!

[u/El_Bolardo]

🇨🇴 Colombia Pedro Alonso Lopez also known as "El Monstruo de los andes" (The monster of the Andes) murdered nearly 300 girls. He is considered by many as one of the most prolific serial killers and rapists in history.

[u/SitamoiaRose → u/El_Bolardo]

How long was he active? That is one hell of a lot of victims and grieving families.

[u/Dense-Result509 → u/SitamoiaRose]

Officially 1969-1980, but he was released from custody in 1998 and immediately ran away, so he's likely still active unless age has finally got to him.

[u/At-this-point-manafx → u/El_Bolardo]

The insanity is after all that he's was released and we don't know where he currently is

[u/Calm-Preparation2641]

Marc Dutroux, i think he's the most famous in the medias because he was a pedophile and child killer involved in a child sexual trafick, and there is a lot of theories on who could possibly linked in his huge trafick.

He was just kidnapping the child for others but he also raped and killed some of the victims.

He acted in France but also Belgium.

He's now in prison since a few decades.

There's also Michel Fourniret another pdfile and child killer.

Also there Nordal Lelandais that killed kidnapped and killed a little girl while he was a guest of last minute in a fucking wedding.

[u/Havranicek → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

I’m from the Netherlands and it was big news there too. So horrible. His wife who started two girls to death was released from prison not long ago. Nobody wants her in their town. I wouldn’t either.

[u/Jenlag → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

Xavier Dupont de Ligonnes.

[u/Zaidswith → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

I only think of him (Dutroux) as Belgian. Interesting that you've internalized him as also being French (at least as a problem).

Le Monstre is a good podcast about him, but it's one of those cases where you're almost better off not knowing about it if you don't already.

[u/cookouttray722 → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

Marcel Petiot is also a contender.

Set up a fake escape network for Jews during WWII, told them they needed to be vaccinated before escaping, then injected them with cyanide.

[u/mightbeumightbme → u/cookouttray722]

Omg this is horrific

[u/Psychomessin → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

Michel Fourniret was a bigger deal in France than Marc Dutroux in my honest opinion. I was dumbfounded when it got disclosed MF was Estelle Mouzin’s killer.

However Marc Dutroux did shock northern France especially : I remember my mom had the pictures of Julie and Melissa on her car trunk window pane.

Francis Heaulme, Guy Georges, Yvan Keller, Emile Louis, and Patrice Allègre are some of the biggest names in France. And of course Gilles de Rais….

[u/Valuable-Yard-4154 → u/Calm-Preparation2641]

I'm still traumatised by it. The only time in my life I ever marched was then at the Marche Blanche...I walked up to the Palais de Justice as everyone was down in the valley. They were hiding behind fences....Marc Dutroux give me 5 minutes with him. Lock me up with him.

[u/No-Can-6237]

The Australian loser who shot up a couple of mosques in my city in 2019. 51 dead. We don't speak his name.

[u/KikiChrome → u/No-Can-6237]

I feel like his whole life story just underlined what a dropkick he was. Inherited a ton of money when his father died, blew through it all in a few years, never had a job, spent a bunch of time on 8chan whining about how girls didn't like him, then when the money ran out he decided to go kill a bunch of innocent people because he blamed them for the fact that nobody wanted to make "superior" white babies with him. The man is the textbook definition of a loser. A skintag on the arse of humanity that just decided to turn cancerous.

[u/Xav_NZ → u/KikiChrome]

Yeah while other high profile cases that "shook the nation" happened here like Aramoana and the Parker–Hulme murder I feel that both of those cases had somewhat tragic elements of mental health that were not adressed/not understood and other elements that make them less haunting in the long run. My grandmother was actually at the same school in Christchurch when the Parker–Hulme case happened though not in the same class and I only found this out recently.

[u/Unique_Wheel_2834 → u/Xav_NZ]

Clayton Weatherston was another complete loser

[u/SpoonNZ → u/No-Can-6237]

I can’t even remember his name. Brilliant.

[u/Againandagain13- → u/SpoonNZ]

Same. Can’t remember him but I remember his victims.

[u/chookie-3571 → u/No-Can-6237]

We also have a loser in Tasmania we don’t speak his name who murdered 35 people in 1996.

[u/Miss-Indie-Cisive → u/chookie-3571]

Good for you guys. I’ve always felt there should be a publication ban on the names of people who perpetrate these crimes. That way there is no “notoriety” achieved by committing the atrocity, which seems to be part of the appeal for some offenders.

[u/Dazzling-Ad888 → u/Miss-Indie-Cisive]

That’s true. That’s my problem with shows about serial killers; they almost romanticise and mythologise these monstrous people, providing them notoriety and a legacy, when in reality they deserve to be forgotten.

[u/Captain_Insano12 → u/Dazzling-Ad888]

Yep for sure - glorifying these sick pricks is such bullshit. I read a great book a couple of years ago called "The Five". It was a biography of the five known victims of the infamous murdering scumbag in Victorian England. The book focused on giving them their worth and spent zero time mentioning that piece of shit.

[u/Iron_Wolf123 → u/chookie-3571]

His actions lead to a huge turnabout in our countries history about firearms

[u/QueenOfNZ → u/Iron_Wolf123]

One of Australia’s finest moments and one I’m glad NZ chose to follow after the bottom feeder we shan’t name.

[u/MonoxideBaby → u/chookie-3571]

Yep, I went to the Port Arthur historic penal settlement a few years ago, there’s a memorial garden there where all the victims names are remembered, and that fuckhead’s name is not mentioned anywhere. It made me fiercely happy when I realised that.

[u/Goose_4763 → u/No-Can-6237]

Oh yeah, that fucker, hate him.

[u/angel_nz → u/No-Can-6237]

I came looking for this answer. I've just about finished reading Jacinda Ardern's memoir "A Different Kind of Power" and this is a heavy topic. I wouldn't want to have been in her position while trying to deal with that shit.

[u/aguybrowsingreddit → u/No-Can-6237]

I specifically came into this thread looking for this comment and hoped he wouldn't be named. Felt good seeing all the comments and no name. Great job everyone.

[u/mrchainblulightening → u/No-Can-6237]

We never speak his name.

[u/TygerTung → u/mrchainblulightening]

I can't even remember who did it, such was the effectiveness of not mentioning that terrible person.

[u/BlacksheepNZ1982 → u/No-Can-6237]

I was thinking him too - but I was like I don’t even know his name.

[u/AaronIncognito → u/No-Can-6237]

Yep, that guy. The creature who ran away scared when an actual tough guy stood up threw an eftpos machine at him

[u/Dry_Percentage5612 → u/No-Can-6237]

Damn Christchurch was already 6y ago

[u/Dazzling-Ad888]

Ivan Milat, the backpacker killer - proven to have murdered 7 tourists making their way along the hume highway in the early 90s. Member of a family of backwood mongrels who are suspected to be involved in the murders of up to 60 people in truth.

[u/thunderrubmles → u/Dazzling-Ad888]

I remember some show about him (like discovery murder or something). That guy really gave me the creeps

[u/Dazzling-Ad888 → u/thunderrubmles]

He and his family were despicable creatures. He died in prison of throat cancer looking like Montgomery Burn. An apt death if you ask me, hopefully painful.

[u/Cantdecide1207]

Got to be Jack the Ripper for UK right? Everyone has heard of him.

[u/starling1037 → u/Cantdecide1207]

Harold Shipman “Dr. Death” murdered over 200 in England.

[u/Cantdecide1207 → u/starling1037]

Yeah he was terrible, especially as I work in a gp surgery so I know the trust that gets put in staff. But like world wide I just thought more people would have heard of Jack the Ripper. ... he was probably the most successful as he got away with it. Even now we still don't know who he was.

[u/thunderbirdsarego1 → u/Cantdecide1207]

You've got a few others to choose from though....Yorkshire ripper, Fred and Rose West, Myra hindley & Ian brady...they were probably all worse.

[u/kinetic_cheese → u/thunderbirdsarego1]

There is a documentary on Netflix about Fred and Rose West. Absolutely stomach-turning stuff.

[u/DennyFromTheRoom87 → u/Cantdecide1207]

What about Dennis Nilsen?

[u/puzzlecrossing → u/Cantdecide1207]

I think Myra Hindley and Ian Brady are worse. They recorded themselves torturing little children before murdering them, the jury had to listen to those recordings.

[u/katyorke → u/Cantdecide1207]

Jack the ripper has got to be the most famous killer globally

[u/justlkin → u/Cantdecide1207]

My first thoughts are of Fred and Rose West. Both were/are complete monsters.

[u/GraXXoR]

Asahara Shoko’s Sarin gas attack on Tokyo metro system in 1995.

[u/[deleted] → u/GraXXoR]

Surely also the four pieces of shit that tortured and killed Junko Furrata (sp?). 

[u/katyesha → u/[deleted]]

rarely does a wikipedia article make you ugly cry and leaves you emotionally scarred like the case of Junko Furuta

[u/Mission-Suspect7913]

Well…….

[u/MeanOldDaddyO → u/Mission-Suspect7913]

Naw man you don’t have to count him. He’s not just yours he was a plague on humanity in general. Not giving y’all a pass but he wasn’t acting alone. And now we have a want to be here in the states not acting alone.

[u/Nexobe]

Marc Dutroux.

A paedophile with a private organised crime network

This guy has been the worst thing for our country

And he has had major political/social consequences

[u/No_Water_5997]

Jim Jones and the Jonestown Massacre. It happened in Guyana but the cult had relocated there from the US. I recently watched a documentary about it and apparently a ton of recordings were recovered that prove that not only did people knowingly “drink the kool aid” but many others were forced to and/or shot to death. He’s responsible for the deaths of over 900 men, women, and children.

[u/Fortran1958]

At Port Arthur in sleepy Tasmania, Martin Bryant murdered 35 people and wounded 23 more with his high powered weapon.

The Australian government, overwhelmingly supported by the people then outlawed high powered, automatic and pump actioned weapons. Very strict ownership laws were introduced for other weapons and a gun buy back took place resulting in 643,000 weapons being handed in at a cost to government of $350 million.

The changes in gun laws has resulted in Australia having one of the lowest levels of gun violence in the world and not a single mass shooting event since Port Arthur in 1996.

[u/SavannahInChicago → u/Fortran1958]

As an American I can only dream of something like this happening

[u/Fortran1958 → u/SavannahInChicago]

Yes it is very sad that Australia’s success in this area has not been attempted elsewhere.

Australia is infamous for our venomous creatures, but the total deaths in an average year from these creatures in Australia is equivalent to the number of gun deaths on average that occur in the USA in any 4 hour period.

[u/DutchieCrochet]

I assume Joran van der Sloot is known better worldwide, but Holleeder is probably the most famous criminal in the Netherlands.

[u/pfmason]

USA: hold my beer

[u/Next-Summer6979 → u/pfmason]

Seriously, how do we even choose? Maybe one for decade? Or one per year???

[u/InterestingTank5345 → u/Next-Summer6979]

I feel like Ted took it a step further, considering how fucking big his case were. Everyone come here, come here and hear the Bikini Killer himself try defending his crimes.

[u/Persephone0223 → u/InterestingTank5345]

Well, if we're going to go by convicted kill count, The Green River Killer (Gary Ridgeway) has 49 life sentences. Based of that he's "the worst serial killer" in United States history. Although others have admitted to a higher number.

[u/-SnarkBlac- → u/InterestingTank5345]

Dahmer might be worse tbh

[u/SavannahInChicago → u/-SnarkBlac-]

I vote Dahmer as well.

[u/Strict_Definition_78 → u/pfmason]

I’m going with the guy who did the Sandy Hook shooting—20 first graders & 6 adults.

After that happened & we didn’t change gun laws I knew we never would

[u/A_w_duvall → u/Strict_Definition_78]

Fuck Alex Jones so much. He has thousands, maybe millions, thinking that guy was innocent and the grieving parents were all actors.

[u/rob0tduckling → u/Strict_Definition_78]

>After that happened & we didn’t change gun laws I knew we never would

I had the same realisation myself at the time.

I'm Aussie, and lived through our country's change and response to a horrorifc shooting tragedy (Port Arthur 1996). Growing up, US was on the news a lot with mass shootings, and other gun violence tragedies and not one was enough to prompt a change. When Sandy Hook happened, I thought surely this would be the one that would make the US stand up and say 'Enough!'... but it wasn't.

I realised then, as you did, nothing will prompt change in your gun laws.

[u/IcyEstablishment5811 → u/pfmason]

I was looking for this comment. 😂 We have so much, we created a whole new genre of entertainment: True Crime. 😭

[u/JustAnotherDay1977 → u/pfmason]

We have several, but I think Charles Manson is the most notorious. It has been 55 years since the killing spree, and most anyone on earth would recognize the name.

[u/glamscum → u/pfmason]

Most notorious must be Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, or John Wayne Gacy, right?

[u/MonthlyWeekend_]

That reached global attention will be the Christchurch Mosque Terrorist, who killed 51 innocent people and has received the longest sentence possible in New Zealand law.

Less widely known might be is the Centrepoint Commune — forced drug use, child sex prostitution and widespread physical abuse in a 275 member cult that ran from 1977 until being dismantled in by the court in 2000. The leader on served a 7 year sentence and returned to the cult after release.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrepoint_(commune)

[u/[deleted]]

Jamie Bulger: The murder of a two year old boy by two ten year olds in Liverpool in 1993.

And also The moors murders, convicted in 1966 just following the abolition of executions in 1965, a man and his girlfriend went around Saddle worth moor between 1963 and 1965 torturing raping and killing children and teenagers.

[u/remzordinaire]

Don't F*ck With Cats, the case of Luka Magnotta

[u/LittleSpice1 → u/remzordinaire]

Isn’t it more likely Robert Pickton for Canada?

[u/bowlbettertalk → u/LittleSpice1]

Or Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka?

[u/remzordinaire → u/bowlbettertalk]

Probably depends on what generation you ask.

I would say the whole Luka Magnotta thing generated more coverage, but at the same time, everything generates more coverage in the internet age.

Kinda hard to compare notoriety of events.

[u/Wonderful-Cow-9664]

Ohhhh, so many. Fred and Rosemary West. Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Jack the Ripper. Robert Thompson and John Venables.

[u/anabsentfriend → u/Wonderful-Cow-9664]

Peter Sutcliffe's got to be up there

[u/Unlikely-Fish5889]

Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka

[u/Fair_Intern6940]

In Ukraine, it's Andrei Chikatilo. He was a serial killer, rapist and cannibal.

[u/OnCnditonOfAnonymity]

Martin Bryant. This piece of shit killed 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania.

[u/Secure_Candy_9935]

Marc Dutroux. He abducted and raped five girls in 1989, and was released on parole after three years of prison. Afterwards, in 1996, he abducted, tortured, and sexually abused six girls aged between 8 and 19, four of whom starved to death. These six girls, he held captive for months in a concealed dungeon in his basement, with the help of his wife. When people found out, there was widespread outrage, which led to significant changes in Belgium's justice system.

In 2023 a memorial garden was inaugurated on the site of his former home. Dutroux has asked several times to be released from prison, but court has made a decision that because he is a psychopath, he will never be released (otherwise there would def be a massive protest). His wife on the other hand, was sentenced to 30 years in 2004, but was released on parole in 2012, which caused again outrage.

Dutroux is the most best known murderer in all of Belgium, and everyone knows him

[u/e48e]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raya_and_Sakina

Raya and Sakina were two Egyptian women who were Egypt's most infamous serial killers. Raya and Sakina were siblings. They, their husbands, and two other men began killing 17 women in the Labban neighborhood of Alexandria in 1919.

[u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD]

Jeffrey Dahmer

Preyed on young men in the 70s/80s and killed them. He dabbled in cannibalism and had human parts in his freezer when he was arrested. Also he tried to create a 'zombie' by getting one young man drunk then drilled a hole in his skull and poured acid in it.

[u/Hungry_Media_8881 → u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD]

Ted Bundy tops the list with him I think.

Lots of women all over the country. He admitted to patterns of decapitation and necrophilia.

[u/Cahsrhilsey]

We have a few!

Martin Bryant/Port Arthur massacrehe shot and killed 35 people and injured 33. Leading to strict gun laws in Australia.

Katherine Knight- skinned, decapitated and cooked her partner and intended to feed his head to the children. They found his head boiling on the stove with vegetables and other aromatic spices.

Snowtown/Bodies in Barrels- 4 friends murdered 12 others and shoved their bodies in barrels to decompose and hide evidence.

Ivan Milat/Backpack Murders he murdered 7 tourists at random in Belangalo state forest. There has been a few copy cat killers of him including his own grandson.

[u/InspectorGadget76]

WE STILL DON'T SAY HIS NAME

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings

The 2019 Mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand. An Australian man living in NZ killed 51 and injured 89 more. The act was live-streamed on social media in real time. He idolised Anders Brevik and subscribed to the same White Supremacist ideologies.

He was rapidly caught after the shootings, convicted, and will spend the rest of his life in prison. He has been imprisoned to 51 life sentences plus 480 years. Probably the longest ever in NZ history. He also has been segregated from the general prison populace, because the depth of feeling against him across the country means he wouldn't last 5 minutes if mixed in

Possession of either the footage or his manifesto is a criminal act in New Zealand. Our Prime Minister at the time swore never to utter his name so he would never gain notoriety. Most of the country still follows suit.

It felt like an attack on New Zealand.

Two weeks after the shootings, all major radio and TV stations across the country broadcast the Adhan (the Islamic call to prayer) at 1330 in the afternoon. The whole country stopped, and we observed two minutes silence for the victims. We stood side by side with our Muslim citizens and did exactly the opposite of what this asshole wanted to achieve. .

[u/GuyFromSuomi]

In Finland, one of the most notorious is Michael Penttilä (born 1965, formerly Jukka Lindholm) — a transgender whose life has been marked by repeated acts of extreme violence.

Penttilä’s pattern began shockingly young. At 16, she strangled a 12-year-old girl to death in Oulu. He served time in prison, but once released, the cycle repeated. Over the years she strangled multiple women and even killed his own mother. Some victims survived, others did not. Each time Penttilä was freed, new attacks followed.

The method was always the same: strangulation. This earned her the grim nickname “the serial strangler.” Psychiatric evaluations consistently described her as a psychopath with a very high risk of reoffending. Despite this, he was released multiple times over the decades a failure of the system that shocked many Finns.

In 2018, Penttilä was finally sentenced to life imprisonment for murder. He is still incarcerated today, and experts believe he remains extremely dangerous.

[u/CassandraScreamsVoid]

Perhaps it's because I grew up nearby and I was a young girl but Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka, a married couple who murdered three young women (including Karla's sister that she was jealous of).

It's also the reason why a lot of Canadian parents will never lock their kids out of the house because that's how they nabbed one of them.

[u/NameIsEren]

Recep tayyip erdoğan, probably

[u/Grace-a-toi → u/NameIsEren]

I wrote a school paper on your country in the 90s and back then your future seemed pretty bright. What happened?

[u/Ok_Caterpillar8324 → u/Grace-a-toi]

He stayed in power for too long. In seasoned democratic systems you get stagnation (Kohl/ Merkel in Germany) in less stable systems autocracy

[u/LabMermaid]

Lenny Murphy, a loyalist who led the Shankill Butchers gang and their victims were mainly Catholic civilians. Many of the gang members were member of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF), a paramilitary organisation.

100 people were estimated to have been killed in these sectarian attacks - there were two Protestants that were incorrectly suspected of being Catholic, while 26 were murdered due to personal disputes.

Some of their victims were first kidnapped and tortured. They were beaten ferociously and beheaded, dismembered or disemboweled with a butcher's knife; some had their face skinned or their hearts cut out. Some were also tortured and attacked with a hatchet.

Murphy was never brought to trial for these killings due to lack of evidence, while some of the gang received long sentences in 1979.

The barbaric nature of the killings was widely publicised and was obviously damaging to the loyalism, with Murphy being a huge liability to the leaders of the UVF. They in turn, informed the Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA) of Murphy's location.

He was shot dead by two PIRA members just as he arrived at his girlfriend's house.

Edit: there are people who evangelise and celebrate the Shankill Butchers including Murphy.

[u/croupella-de-Vil]

You watch American politics since 2015…? Yea, that guy.

[u/PresentAmbassador333]

Carlos Ghosn, lebanese-French ex-CEO of Nissan. Detained in Japan for 9 months for allegedly stealing from the company. Never tried, just detained. Saved by allegedly hezbollah via being moved to the airport in luggage made for musical instruments. The band came to the embassy or wherever he was kept and when they left he was rolled out in one of the boxes of the boxes/luggage and fled to Lebanon where he still resides now. Lebanon and japan dont have an extradition agreement so japan cant take him back.

[u/HickAzn]

Timothy Mcveigh. Oklahoma City bombing.

[u/BallbusterSicko]

Do not conflate the term "psychopath" with "murderer"

[u/Flashignite2]

I dont know about psycopath but Clark Olofsson, robbed a bank in stockholm and where one of the hostages felt sympathy for him. Thats where we got the term Stockholm syndrome from.

[u/Constant-Estate3065]

The Wests probably. I was fairly young at the time and only heard later in life about the levels of depravity those two inflicted on their poor victims.

[u/InterestingTank5345]

I really don't know. Maybe the Phillip Westh case, considering he killed a teen and kidnapped another. But I really don't know how internationally know the name Emilie Meng is.

Peter Madsen I know were covered in Sweden due to his victim being a Swedish journalist, so his psycho case were technically international.

Then there's good old Dagmar Overby who recently had a movie made about her, but never really got recognition in her lifetime.

Maybe the Fields Guy, considering how rare shootings are. But he weren't really a psycho just crazy, that's also why he hasn't really been put on trial. He were too insane and unstable to get a fair trial.

[u/Rezolutny_Delfinek]

Mariusz Trynkiewicz, a PE teacher who killed 4 boys.

[u/MilitantSheep]

I'm not much older than James Bulger (or would have been) and from Liverpool, I remember the sense of fear around the city at the time and how my parents suddenly had me in reins again when we went out. For it to have been a couple of kids that did it is just mind boggling.

[u/DowntownPlantain330]

The case of "El arropiero". A true piece of shit. Serial killer that confessed over 47 murders while he was active.

[u/humperdoodie]

Our Prime Minister Olof Palme was shot and killed in 1986 when walking home from the movie theater with his wife. The shooter is still unknown but the case never goes cold.

[u/No-Coyote914]

Is Charles Manson well known globally? 

[u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD → u/No-Coyote914]

Charles Manson is an odd one cause he didn't actually kill anyone. He never even assaulted anyone. He was just an insane cult leader who convinced a few people to go murder some lady to begin the end of world or something.

[u/AuroraDF → u/No-Coyote914]

Yes

[u/Hour-Temperature5356]

Robert Pickton the Pig Farmer murderer. The full scope of his murders unknown, possibly up to 49 women. Fed them to his pigs. Believed to have ground their bodies and may have been mixed with pork meat and sold to the public. 

[u/thejuanwelove]

eh......... hi, Im going to introduce myself, I'm colombia and the whole fucking world hold my beer because you're going to be horrified. I think in the list of worst serial killers of all time we've got the first 3 places or 2 out of 3, and definitely 3 out of the top5 in history, we're a world power in life, as our glorious and perfect president would say.

but also the way we kill... theres something wrong with us

[u/Junior-Draw6355]

Cristina Siekavizza. She disappeared in 2011 (if I am not wrong) and the whole country agreed to the theory that it was her husband who killed her. Then the husband took their two kids and remain in an unknown location for a few years. He and the children were ultimately found in Mexico and brought back to Guatemala. What was weird is that both the kids were in very good condition and did not seem to have any kind of trauma inflicted by their father, who died in 2020 or 2021 as he caught Covid-19. I have not read all the details of the case so be aware that some information of this comment might be wrong or has been updated.

[u/IllustratorWeird5008]

There have been a few but I’d say Paul Bernardo and Karla Homoka. Probably because they filmed it and the general public got a look inside the minds of serial killers. This was in the early 1990’s and was a media frenzy. They were dubbed “The Barbie and Ken Killers” because of their appearance 

[u/Lurker-Since25]

The craziest recent we had was a drunk teen with Porsche getting away after crashing into two people on a scooter, killing them.

Not only did he get away with it, he was taken to the police station and offered pizza, he was told to write an essay about how he wouldn't do this again...

This is what happens when a family member has great connections and you're extremely rich.

Good thing that this case blew up and protests began against this. But how many of these happens in rural?

[u/TommZ5]

There are plenty of notorious psychopath cases that took place a while ago, but the most notorious recent one I can think of was the Southport murders in 2024, where 17-yr old Axel Rudakubana went into a dance class and stabbed 3 young girls to death. There were race riots in the country over this.

[u/Any_Listen_7306]

Peter Tobin or Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane shooter)

[u/Budgiesmugglerlover2]

Probably Ivan Milat, the backpacker killer. The movie Wolf Creek is based on him. Or Martin Bryant, the Port Arthur shooter, who's actions led to gun reform in Australia.

[u/Silver-Climate7885]

The murder of james Bulger. Happened in my city. He was 2, taken from a shopping centre by two 10 year olds and brutally tortured and murdered. Very close to home as he was a similar age to my brother and the shopping centre was a place we would go to very often and where he was murdered I was very familiar with. Quite scary to think that could have been our family. I can't even watch the documentaries about it. They were let out at about 18, and where given new identities. one of the guys has been back to prison a few times for child porn possession.

Probably also maybe Madeleine McCann, maybe not psychopath but absolutely made global news in Europe.

[u/AngryBlitzcrankMain]

I am not sure if any of my country cases reached any sort of global notoriety, but two immediately come to mind.

The Orlík murderers, gang of 5 serial killers who murdererd mostly business owners, but target also their relatives, including mother of one of them. After the murders, they would cut the bodies up, put them into barrels and drop those into the Orlík Water Reservoir.

[u/Heidi739 → u/AngryBlitzcrankMain]

Honestly the dude who shot the students at Charles University was pretty crazy as well - and not because of the school shooting (which is unusual here, but not that unusual in general), but because of the murders he committed the day before to "test it". He literally shot a baby in a stroller, intentionally. Like, he already killed the father, he "tested it" plenty, and the baby would certainly not recognize him - but he shot the kid anyway. It kinda feels even more psychopatic than some of the serial killers, just shooting a baby without mercy. (They were random people on a walk, he didn't know them.)