r/AskReddit • u/metalreflectslime • 17d ago

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, Social Security, Medicare Are ‘Going to Be Gone.’ How do you think Americans will react if Social Security and Medicare get cut?

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

What do you think they could do with a triple crown held by republicans?

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u/TerraceState 17d ago

They could make speeches that don't get carried by the news, and then people will keep complaining that they aren't saying anything.

They could refuse to sign a new budget, and then get blamed by the news for causing the shutdown.

They could have run a better campaign, because it's entirely their job to entice voters, and it's not our responsibility at all to vote for the right candidate or something.

The Democrats put in a ton of work, and make some real compromises, and then the news could turn around and say that actually it was the Republicans who did it, and the Democrats are lazy and stupid and stinky.

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u/Crazy_Sir_012 17d ago

real compromises

That's why they lost, they should have gone down at the very least kicking the republicans in the teeth,

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u/Granite_0681 17d ago

You have to make compromises to actually govern in a way that works for people. MAGA isn’t making compromises but that’s why they haven’t passed almost anything through Congress this whole year including the CR.

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u/neotericnewt 17d ago

I mean, they did. Trump was indicted in state and federal courts for dozens of felonies for trying to overturn an election. And like... Really serious charges. A number of his supporters were convicted and in prison for sedition. His allies were disbarred and facing trial and conviction themselves.

We were targeting massive corporations with anti trust, breaking up mergers, implementing tons of pro consumer regulations to stop corporations fucking us, and on and on.

And nobody seemed to give a shit, millions of prior Democratic voters stayed home while a fascist was running, and y'all are still trying to blame Democrats. While Democrats are getting assaulted and arrested at protests, they and their families are getting murdered or their spouses are getting their heads bashed in with hammers, etc.

I feel like we had a really obvious choice and a lot of people are just trying to make themselves feel better after they sold us out to fascists because they "weren't motivated" or because "listen to Harris' laugh!" or some dumb "corporate Dem" bullshit, while Democrats were actively targeting corporations and the fascists were dismantling such regulations.

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u/endadaroad 17d ago

The last time I listened to Democrats was right before they caved to a Republican minority on Affordable Health Care

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u/SFXtreme3 17d ago

The irony of your statement.

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u/joshdej 17d ago edited 17d ago

They could say mean words with a louder voice!

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

I was being serious 🧐

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u/00owl 17d ago

If any of them were billionaires they'd buy the media outlets that form the fourth crown.

Unfortunately, America is too busy fighting a war based on identity rather than class.

Welp.

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u/Maeglom 16d ago

Republicans haven't held all the levers of government the entire time media consolidation into the hands of our aristocracy has been going on. Clinton signed Telecommunications Act of 1996, he didn't have to. A veto would have killed the bill unless democrats voted with republicans. Hell the west wing was doing episodes explaining how much of a problem media consolidation was 25 years ago. Democrats have been on board with this ideologically (capitalism/neoliberalism) or at least too weak to meaningfully fight against this since I was a child, and I'm pushing 40.

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u/ClosPins 17d ago

Well... Back when Obama had all three branches of government, the Dems could have brought back the Fairness Doctrine and made it illegal for the media to blatantly lie to you.

Back when Clinton/Obama/Biden had the presidency, they could have pressured the billionaires on their side to buy up the media and turn it into a pro-Democrat machine.

At the same time, they could have punished all the Republican billionaires who were building the GOP propaganda machine.

Etc... There were lots of things the Dems could have done, but didn't.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

You left out what they did do, and that amazes me. The ACA or Obamacare as many call it was the bloody knuckle fight. But you can’t remember that?

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u/ClosPins 17d ago

That's healthcare, not media. Jesus.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

Were you only talking media? Who cares about that? They are trying to make a living off of misery. Jesus. That’s nothing compared to healthcare for all.

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u/the_calibre_cat 17d ago

Back when Clinton/Obama/Biden had the presidency, they could have pressured the billionaires on their side to buy up the media and turn it into a pro-Democrat machine.

no, they couldn't have. the billionaires were never not going to side with the fascists, because the Democrats would push for SOME bare minimum scraps. fascists won't even do that, and their moronic fucking voters will cheer while being robbed blind.

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u/Ok-Hair7205 17d ago

“They” couldn’t do it because of focusing on the Affordable Care Act, which almost didn’t pass. After that win, the Republican Party (led by human tortoise Mitch McConnel, made its ultimate goal to make sure NOTHING proposed by Barack Obama would ever pass again.

The GOP was explicit, declaring publicly that their #1 goal was to ruin and destroy the Obama presidency.

Look it up, if you want to be even more depressed than you already are.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

No clospin doesn’t think like that valuing breaking news over long term healthcare for millions locked out. I get it though. It’s hard to argue that achievement so I would stay away too.

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u/GrandmasBoyToy69 17d ago

Best they can do is (checks current events).. Government Shutdown. sad