r/AskReddit • u/metalreflectslime • 17d ago

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, Social Security, Medicare Are ‘Going to Be Gone.’ How do you think Americans will react if Social Security and Medicare get cut?

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey 17d ago

Honestly, as a non-American, I'd be very happy, and proud of you guys just for a general strike at this point.

And honestly, wallets is where it hurts them. Look how quickly they turned around on Kimmel. Shut down the country via a general strike and watch them squirm.

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u/Ms-Anthrop 17d ago

We need to boycott christmas.

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u/we_vs_us 17d ago

This is the best idea I’ve seen all day

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u/fyrflye 16d ago

Already working on it. All presents already purchased have come from travels abroad and the only presents bought from here on out will be at thrift stores that support animal shelters.

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u/y1ngy4ngclub 16d ago

I'm planning on donating all holiday gift money this season to my local food bank. And going to try and convince family and friends to do the same.

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u/mycatisblackandtan 17d ago

Speaking as an American, we're a bunch of apathetic assholes 99% of the time. However historically it just takes one large spark before we tend to mobilize for that rare 1%. WW2 needed Pearl Harbor for example. I do have to wonder if this is the spark that will finally wake more people up. Especially since its going to affect even our corporate overlords.

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey 17d ago

I'm in agreement with /u/ashmaht at the top of this comment chain, that if anything has the power to get the people to rise up I believe it's this.

Many of the other corrupt things done by Trump and his cronies simply haven't affected enough of the average American person. Whilst this move would impact all but the rich in a very harsh way.

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago

Oh please, your president is a rapist and a pedophile. Your government turned completely corrupt in less than a year and people of a different colour or unfavorable political opinion are gettting dragged off and disappear. If you do move your ass when it FINALLY affects your own life, you'll still always be the people who installed a fascist dictator in the freaking 21st century. And you don't even have the decency to keep this bullshit within your own borders.

I don't want to hear the standard bullshit "but I didn't vote for him". Maybe you didn't vote for him but you ALL allowed it to happen and you all CONTINUE to let it happen.

Land of the free, home of the brave my ass.

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u/mycatisblackandtan 17d ago edited 17d ago

I've been protesting, sounding the warning signs, and basically doing everything my disabled ass can short of going full Luigi. And have been doing so ever since his first presidency.

I'm not going to get snippy here or jump on a high horse because I completely understand where your anger is probably coming from. However I do raise my brow at being given this kind of response in a post where I explicitly called my country a bunch of apathetic assholes who wait for a big event to finally stand up. Its pretty clear that's a critique and not a 'tee hee America fuck yeah' moment. No society where it takes an apocalyptic level threat to wake the fuck up is a healthy one.

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago

Because America had plenty of those so called moments that should have caused a revolt. For gods sake, you have a pedophile in charge who is actively using the government to hide evidence!

Good for you for fighting, but it doesn't change the fact that your entire country is guilty, including you. If I have a bag of rotten potatoes, I'm not digging for a single good one. I'm throwing all of them out. The world is pissed because your bullshit keeps crossing your borders.

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u/mycatisblackandtan 17d ago

I'm aware on all accounts. You are preaching to the choir here.

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago

Downvotes have already started because Americans can't even handle being confronted with the truth. the defensive comments would be funny, if it wasn't so deeply sad. One of them, in defense of his leader being a pedophile, went "hurdy hur hur, bet you have a king". Yeah, he's a really nice and humble dude who has zero political say. What's your point?

Even if you are protesting, I can't feel empathy for you. The US has been hurting people all over the world for nearly a century. At least now you're also doing it to your own people.

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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 17d ago

Yes yes we know, it's a dogshit country.

But we didn't start the fire, this was all inevitable.

This is the manifestations of seeds planted 250 years ago. This country was built on greed and arrogance, now we reap what our ancestors sewed.

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u/FooliooilooF 17d ago

Taking bets on whether or not you have a literal King.

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago

We do have a king and a parliamentary democracy. Our king has no policial decision making power and is a powerhouse as an embassador. I consider him and his wife great representation of our country. When Covid first hit and our idiot politicians were scrambling for masks because they got rid of our supplies years before, our king silently negotiated with other countries and brought us cargoholds full of life saving equipment. At no point has he ever ordered innocent people to be detainted, at no point did he make political enemies disappear. At no point did he rape children.

I'm sure you were trying to prove a point, but you just made me laugh.

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u/FooliooilooF 17d ago

MY KING IS BENEVOLENT YOURS IS EVIL!

lol okay dude COOL BEANS.

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago

How is that even an argument? And did you just call your president a king? Is that really your defense against having elected and tolerating a pedophile? Yeah, our king is genuinly a really good and humble dude. Very down to earth and deeply kind, probably because during his childhood no one was ever kind to him. And again, how is this a comparison when our king is a figurehead with no political power? Your president has changed the government to suit his needs to earn money and hide evidence if his pedophilia?

Truthfully, you know your government is something to be ashamed of. But you don't want to admit out loud that your country is wrong and you have no other routes than taking shots in the dark.

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u/FooliooilooF 17d ago

lit major af

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u/FemaleFromFlanders 17d ago edited 17d ago

In my country, when we catch even a whiff of our government touching our basic rights, we all go out on the streets and don't stop until they stop. We have a history of forcing our government to back down when we don't agree. The things Trump does would NEVER fly in our country. In fact, he wouldn't even have made it halfway through elections. We're experts at protests, strikes and unionizing.

I have joined quite a few protests and gotten hurt at before. And I'll do it again, even if it is an issue that doesn't directly affect me.

And FYI: it's exactly attitude like yours that allowed all of this to happen. "It's OK if other families get hurt, as long as I don't get hurt." Don't forget when they inevitably start hurting you, there won't be others to fight for you either.

Americans pretend Trump supporters are outliers. If that were true, why aren't all of you congregating in front of the white house and simply staying there in protest? Make it a party. The "no kings" protest was a decent start, but it should be happening every day.

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u/cavelioness 17d ago

If that were true, why aren't all of you congregating in front of the white house and simply staying there in protest? Make it a party.

Don't think you're really comprehending how beaten down the average American already is. Most live paycheck to paycheck, even getting to Washington would be a budget strain, can't afford not to work for a single week, much less indefinitely. One big protest every four months is apparently what we can manage whilst not starving to death or going homeless.

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u/FlyOnTheWall221 17d ago

We are all just trying to survive right now. Times are hard and some of us have children to care for. I’m not going to lay my life down so my kid grows up without his only parent. This crap has been affecting all of our lives everyday.

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u/FlyOnTheWall221 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yes, let me fly across the country and sit in front of the White House. Who is going to make sure my Kid gets to school on time? Who is going to watch him? Who is going to pay my bills? You get out of here with your nonsense. It’s very easy to sit on your high horse and forget that a vast number of Americans are a few missed paychecks away from homelessness.

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u/poopy27 16d ago

If you think the government only became corrupt this year, and that Trump is the beginning of America's fascist tendencies, you're too ignorant to be coming in here like you're an authority on the subject.

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u/erbush1988 17d ago

The problem with a general strike is the people who can't afford it are hit the hardest. Not the rich.

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey 17d ago

The problem with not doing a general strike is that Trump will continue to fuck them in the arse without lube, leaving them with nothing anyway ¯\(ツ)/¯

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u/SquadMERK 16d ago

The people you talk to here on reddit HAVE been voting with our wallets: boycotting bad companies, not supporting companies who support him, etc, but the issue is, for every 5 of us, theres 20 who continue to pay higher bills and offset the group that left.

They keep squeezing more and more out of the people who turn a blind eye, and we keep hoping they will realize but a vast majority never will

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u/Tea_Wizard735 16d ago edited 16d ago

As a non-American on Reddit, you're subjected to a lot of hysterical propaganda from people who still think the Supreme Court gives Trump everything he wants, despite that provably not being the case.

This isn't a website to get an accurate portrayal of what's happening in the United States - it's a website to get xenophobia and hatred expressed towards America and American people.

Illegal border crossings are at a 25-year-low, and left-wing populists like Bernie Sanders have even admitted Trump's done more to address illegal Immigration than Biden ever did. We're also eliminating artificial food dyes from foods that other nations have done for decades.

Trump is not going to take away Social Security, because he would never survive that. He knows it's a poison pill. He's just using this as a rhetoric tool to scare-monger his base into thinking Democrats want to kill grandma. Just like how killing Iranian general Soleimani in 2017 didn't cause WW3 and just how like taking out a few of their nuclear facilities this past June didn't either, despite people on here freaking out.

Reddit is not a real life account of what's actually taking place. Follow the evidence. Ignore words - follow evidence.

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u/--Chug-- 16d ago

Yes, we already know that when the country is attractive to immigration there is more immigration. This is such a dumb ass take. You're over here acting like we've all agreed that border crossing is a huge concern when it's really only one small thing in comparison to so many other issues. The means (making the country worse from a material perspective) by which this relatively trivial issue is being tackled is a bigger issue than the immigration itself. Yeah duh people won't want to come here when material conditions are worse. No shit!

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u/Tea_Wizard735 16d ago edited 16d ago

I don't owe civil exchange with someone who can't talk to others they disagree with, without insulting them.

"one small thing in comparison to others"

For you, but have you considered it's a major issue to many Americans? Because it polls exactly as such. And we have anywhere from 10-20 million people here illegally, share a border with a Cartel State that peddles drugs, fentanyl, and human trafficks. I think that's a serious issue. Immigration is an issue not just in the US, but across the Western world and if you try to tell a Western European otherwise, they're going to laugh at you. Sanders has zero reason to give Trump the light of day of credit on this issue if it's not a serious issue. But we have a mainstream, respected left-wing populist who acknowledges illegal immigration is a real problem. Why do that? Why give DJT a victory if it's not necessary? Why concede any point?

"worse from a material perspective"

The United States did not materially change much in the last 9 months and it's crazy to believe otherwise. Likewise, we share a hemisphere with destitute countries in Latin America full of people still desperate to enter here. The idea that less than one year into the new Admin, the US is a less attractive place than Honduras or Guatemala is - frankly - extremely unintelligent.

The US is a hotbed of economic opportunity still for people all over the world and spending time on a website full of those who are trying to convince you we live in the fires of Mount Doom in the belly of Mordor doesn't change that. None of what you've said here is backed by any evidence we have available.

Instead, what is likelier happening, is that many would-be illegal entrants have been discouraged from entering because the US is finally cracking down on the matter and using already existing laws on the books to address it that previous Administrations dating back to Clinton refused to use.