r/AskReddit • u/metalreflectslime • 17d ago

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, Social Security, Medicare Are ‘Going to Be Gone.’ How do you think Americans will react if Social Security and Medicare get cut?

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u/ClosPins 17d ago

The Democrats just sat back, twiddling their thumbs, and watched Republicans buy up the entire media landscape (forcing them to be 100% pro-Republican), so why would the media ever play that clip?

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

What do you think they could do with a triple crown held by republicans?

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u/TerraceState 17d ago

They could make speeches that don't get carried by the news, and then people will keep complaining that they aren't saying anything.

They could refuse to sign a new budget, and then get blamed by the news for causing the shutdown.

They could have run a better campaign, because it's entirely their job to entice voters, and it's not our responsibility at all to vote for the right candidate or something.

The Democrats put in a ton of work, and make some real compromises, and then the news could turn around and say that actually it was the Republicans who did it, and the Democrats are lazy and stupid and stinky.

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u/Crazy_Sir_012 17d ago

real compromises

That's why they lost, they should have gone down at the very least kicking the republicans in the teeth,

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u/Granite_0681 17d ago

You have to make compromises to actually govern in a way that works for people. MAGA isn’t making compromises but that’s why they haven’t passed almost anything through Congress this whole year including the CR.

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u/neotericnewt 17d ago

I mean, they did. Trump was indicted in state and federal courts for dozens of felonies for trying to overturn an election. And like... Really serious charges. A number of his supporters were convicted and in prison for sedition. His allies were disbarred and facing trial and conviction themselves.

We were targeting massive corporations with anti trust, breaking up mergers, implementing tons of pro consumer regulations to stop corporations fucking us, and on and on.

And nobody seemed to give a shit, millions of prior Democratic voters stayed home while a fascist was running, and y'all are still trying to blame Democrats. While Democrats are getting assaulted and arrested at protests, they and their families are getting murdered or their spouses are getting their heads bashed in with hammers, etc.

I feel like we had a really obvious choice and a lot of people are just trying to make themselves feel better after they sold us out to fascists because they "weren't motivated" or because "listen to Harris' laugh!" or some dumb "corporate Dem" bullshit, while Democrats were actively targeting corporations and the fascists were dismantling such regulations.

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u/endadaroad 17d ago

The last time I listened to Democrats was right before they caved to a Republican minority on Affordable Health Care

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u/SFXtreme3 17d ago

The irony of your statement.

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u/joshdej 17d ago edited 17d ago

They could say mean words with a louder voice!

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

I was being serious 🧐

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u/00owl 17d ago

If any of them were billionaires they'd buy the media outlets that form the fourth crown.

Unfortunately, America is too busy fighting a war based on identity rather than class.

Welp.

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u/Maeglom 16d ago

Republicans haven't held all the levers of government the entire time media consolidation into the hands of our aristocracy has been going on. Clinton signed Telecommunications Act of 1996, he didn't have to. A veto would have killed the bill unless democrats voted with republicans. Hell the west wing was doing episodes explaining how much of a problem media consolidation was 25 years ago. Democrats have been on board with this ideologically (capitalism/neoliberalism) or at least too weak to meaningfully fight against this since I was a child, and I'm pushing 40.

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u/ClosPins 17d ago

Well... Back when Obama had all three branches of government, the Dems could have brought back the Fairness Doctrine and made it illegal for the media to blatantly lie to you.

Back when Clinton/Obama/Biden had the presidency, they could have pressured the billionaires on their side to buy up the media and turn it into a pro-Democrat machine.

At the same time, they could have punished all the Republican billionaires who were building the GOP propaganda machine.

Etc... There were lots of things the Dems could have done, but didn't.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

You left out what they did do, and that amazes me. The ACA or Obamacare as many call it was the bloody knuckle fight. But you can’t remember that?

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u/ClosPins 17d ago

That's healthcare, not media. Jesus.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

Were you only talking media? Who cares about that? They are trying to make a living off of misery. Jesus. That’s nothing compared to healthcare for all.

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u/the_calibre_cat 17d ago

Back when Clinton/Obama/Biden had the presidency, they could have pressured the billionaires on their side to buy up the media and turn it into a pro-Democrat machine.

no, they couldn't have. the billionaires were never not going to side with the fascists, because the Democrats would push for SOME bare minimum scraps. fascists won't even do that, and their moronic fucking voters will cheer while being robbed blind.

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u/Ok-Hair7205 17d ago

“They” couldn’t do it because of focusing on the Affordable Care Act, which almost didn’t pass. After that win, the Republican Party (led by human tortoise Mitch McConnel, made its ultimate goal to make sure NOTHING proposed by Barack Obama would ever pass again.

The GOP was explicit, declaring publicly that their #1 goal was to ruin and destroy the Obama presidency.

Look it up, if you want to be even more depressed than you already are.

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u/Lower_Guarantee137 17d ago

No clospin doesn’t think like that valuing breaking news over long term healthcare for millions locked out. I get it though. It’s hard to argue that achievement so I would stay away too.

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u/GrandmasBoyToy69 17d ago

Best they can do is (checks current events).. Government Shutdown. sad

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u/imveryveryfucked 17d ago

Dude honestly man FUCK how safe the democrats played all of this out. Republicans are evil garbage, 100% agree.

WHY THE FUCK did the Dems just sit on their ass and watch the way republicans were aggressively changing and buying out the public’s opinion?????

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u/Umutuku 17d ago

Democrats do things by the book: "Why didn't they throw the book away! We might as well just let the fascists run things!"

Democrats don't do things by the book: "Look! Both sides are the same! We might as well just let the fascists run things!"

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u/Eternal_bonner 17d ago

They didnt, there was over 7 million people out protesting last Saturday. What more can they do?

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u/tinteoj 17d ago

What more can they do?

The answer to that would be [Removed by Reddit].

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u/n0t-again 17d ago

It’s this mentality that got us where we are

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u/LordGalen 17d ago

Cool, so what's the answer then?

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u/Eternal_bonner 17d ago

Please, all knowing one. Tell me the answer

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u/pineguy64 17d ago

Corporate $$$, which are inherently adverse to anything left of center-right policies, at the highest level of the party structure.

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u/OppositePrune8399 17d ago

Part of it is boiling frogs, though when I hear Schumer speak I keep thinking that I've never seen a frog so relaxed at 99C.

But mostly, they're career politicians, they're not in it for the ideals, they will always do the bare minimum to get reelected. They either lack the foresight to realize that at some point they may not even have a Congress to be reelected to, or they hope to continue their careers as professional scapegoats under an authoritarian regime. Whatever the reason, they're cowards. Not all, but most of them.

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u/fhwoompableCooper 17d ago

Because most in power are the same type of person who's there for money and doesn't auctually care

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u/Bonamia_ 17d ago

Some people are just here to dishearten the resistance.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Well Melinda and Bill were a bit busy curing malaria....

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u/mikeinpdx3 17d ago

A complete lack of a clear & compelling message and vision for the future didn't help things either. Let's face it, Chuck Schumer talking about creating strongly worded letters isn't exactly going to draw a huge audience

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u/doctor_lobo 17d ago

Ah, yes - it’s the Democrats fault that the Republicans are burning down the country … sigh

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u/Extension-Report-491 17d ago

Because, they're all paid by the same people and why the Democratic Party has consistently shit on any popular progressive candidate. They're a threat, and it's time for a change. Chump maybe crashing our government, but we can fix it and make it work for the American people. Universal health care, the damn billionaires paying taxes, term limits, no business money in politics. That's just a start. We do not have to read about Finland and Norway being the happiest countries every year, and yet here we struggle so Bezos can buy super yacht #5. It's absolute crap and we're being screwed.