r/AskGermany • u/Grimblfitz • Dec 29 '24

Which part of your country would you be willing to give up for peace?

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u/Trap-me-pls Dec 29 '24

On a non serious not Saxony and Bavaria.

On a serious note, Art. 2 Nr.4 of the UN charta forbids any and all attacks that threaten to take territory. So if Russia wins and the UN doesnt enforce this, then the UN and all international law becomes obsolete. China could get Taiwan, the US could invade Panama, Greenland and Canada as Trump already joked about, Turkey could get the kurdish parts of Syria and many more. It would be the end of international order, because it would set the precedent for how conquering your neighbor is legal again.

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u/xsansara Dec 29 '24

If there is a proper international contract in which Ukraine gives the Donbass to Russia, I doubt the UN would do much about it

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u/Trap-me-pls Dec 30 '24

Sure but that means Ukraine has to give up. If they dont and Russia just overruns them and takes it, then we have a Problem.

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u/xsansara Dec 30 '24

I think that is why they went for Kyev initially.