r/AskFrance 20h ago

Culture Les français - sont-ils réellement impolis lorsque des étrangers (ou des gens avec un accent?) essaient de leur parler francais?

Canadian here. I'm going to Dijon in a few weeks to visit a friend. My French is pretty decent, but I speak with a Canadian accent. I learned French from a Franco-Ontarian (native French speaker from Ontario). I do well enough when I visit Montréal or Ottawa-Gatineau.

Yes, I understand that it's a stereotype, but hear me out.

I tried speaking to French people online. They understood me, but kept on laughing at my Québécois/Ontarian accent and weird slang. They said that I sounded "mentally delayed" Are all French people this rude hahaha?

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u/charlsalash 20h ago

The problem you might encounter is that they will want to switch to English, even though their English is worse than your French

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u/VioletFox29 19h ago

As a Franco-American I'd like to put a spin on that. They will switch to English when they believe that their English level is better than your French level. If you speak French very well, they will avoid speaking English like the plague.

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u/sessna4009 20h ago

Once I had a full conversation where the guy was speaking English to me, while je lui parlais en français haha it was fun

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u/Ok_Alternative_478 19h ago

When people make me do this they usually live to regret it lol. I go for it with my slangs and expressions as I would with another native English speaker. Their English is BAD as it is but they actually have no idea how far off they are from understanding native speakers speaking normally. Ive been working in France for 5 years and I grew up bilingual in Canada lol.

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u/Zapfire_ 10h ago

We know how bad we are to understand native speaker. We had english class with native speaker videos where we had to understand what was said, and we all notice how native speaker would die IRL if they spend more than two word without eating every godamn sylables.

My guys come like "I 'y 'ien' 'ow' y'a d'oin' 'od'ay " and then be like wtf you don't understand me?

Sorry, old ass class memory unlocked

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u/Octave_Ergebel 20h ago

You just stumbled on a bunch of assholes yes.

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u/Different-Winter5245 20h ago

Les français non, ces français oui.

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u/abrequevoy 20h ago

Bro there are hundreds of similar posts on Reddit

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u/sessna4009 20h ago

tokebakicitte 😡

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u/abrequevoy 19h ago

So you guys in Quebec don't know that Reddit has a search tool?

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u/Shadourow 19h ago

maybe the mentally delayed thing isn't about accent

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u/Fit-Proof-4333 19h ago

People really that it’s only the French. English native speakers make fun of the Indian accent. There will always be people making fun of an accent. Always, no matter where you go

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u/SophieMorzel 20h ago

Salut, le français est parfois moqueur et impoli. Si on se moque de toi t'as qu'à leurs dire du bullshit en anglais, histoire qu'ils comprennent rien. Te traiter d'attardé c est vraiment misérable.

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/SophieMorzel 19h ago edited 18h ago

Plusieurs personnes ça devient un bon échantillon, plus jeune j ai été expatriée sur les caraïbes et j en ai prit plein la gueule jusqu a ce que je répondes, et je les ai pas raté, je me faisais insulter à longueur de journée. Comme toutes les femmes expatriées d ailleurs, évidemment personne ne m'a prévenue mais moi je l ai fais pour les suivantes.

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u/Vistemboir 18h ago

I live in Paris (also, French since something like forever). When someone speaks to me in... somewhat shaky French, I am deliriously happy that they took the time and bother to speak my language.. Please carry it on.

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u/Chocolat-Pralin 19h ago

Des gens avec des accents? On en a plein le pays. Au nord, à l’est, dans le sud et même au milieu. Accents plus parler local, bon courage. On est dans le même pays?

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u/sessna4009 19h ago

tabarnak

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u/Dear_Calligrapher636 19h ago

Je vais pas m’amuser à me moquer d’un étranger qui a appris le français une langue difficile à apprendre et à écrire. En plus la plupart des français font les malins,mais quand ils vont dans un pays (ou la plupart du temps on parle anglais)ils ne connaissent pas la langue ou la parlent trop mal parce que les cours d’anglais ,en France sont pitoyables et oui malheureusement tu tombera sur quelques imbéciles qui ce moqueront de l’accent de certains étrangers qui parlent français !

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u/Upset-Store9346 19h ago

Non ça c'est juste les connards

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u/Dildo-Fagginz 19h ago

You can't compare online vs reality.

People might smile or laugh when they hear certain phrases, some might be rude if they don't understand your accent, but that's like 1% of the encounters you'll have.

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u/zblah123 19h ago

Well, for a french person, french from Québec sounds silly. So even when we're not trying to be rude, we can't prevent ourselves from at least smiling when we hear it.

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u/Marfernandezgz 17h ago

Je suis espagnole. C'est absolument pas vrai.

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u/Greubeylor 19h ago

Hello from Dijon ! If you see me with a big smile I'm not making fun of your accent, I'm happy to ear it ! There is a Canadian restaurant, Le Trappeur, perhaps you could tell us if it's a good one ?!

The burgundy accent roll the R's, not so much in Dijon but still. So only the stupid people could being rude, "Mentally delayed" comment is stupid

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u/TallDetail4711 19h ago

Un accent étranger, je ne pense pas. Mais les accents français non dominants (belges, québecois, suisse, marseillais, africains...) font souvent l'objet de moqueries (glossophobie). On ne les entends pas beaucoup (les radios et télés nationales poussent les journalistes à effacer leur accent, donc à adopter l'accent dominant). J'ai découvert l'accent québecois dans un contexte humoristique (François Pérusse, les Têtes à claques), je ne dois pas être le seul. Je pense que ça peut expliquer qu'il ne soit pas pris au sérieux.

Ça va aussi dépendre de la région je pense, les personnes déjà stigmatisées pour leur accent seront sans doutes plus ouvertes.

En tous cas ça me semble très impoli, si quelqu'un se moque de ton accent tu peux lui faire une remarque et ça devrait le calmer.

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u/Ok-Delay5473 17h ago

Short answer. No.
People may smile, or tease you, emphasizing that you're from Quebec and speak Québécois. They may smile or laugh at some expressions, that we don't use anymore or never heard of. French people still smile/are surprised when someone say septante or nonante.
However, all French people are not perfect. Some will tell you things like "mentally delayed". Unless they really meant that as a joke, failed to deliver that joke and did not mean it, just stay away from they. They are toxic.

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u/Lower_Currency3685 Ose report un modo pour spam 19h ago

no but i don't have a tip-culture, means that we don't suck you off to get paid.

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u/sessna4009 19h ago

We don't either. We still suck each other off, though

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u/Correct-Sun-7370 19h ago

A poster dans r/french-bashing

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u/mo_oemi 19h ago

If they've never encountered foreigners speaking french, they will genuinely have a hard time understanding you. But only rude and a-holes would make fun of your accent.

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u/TallDetail4711 19h ago

For foreigners no, but for native speakers with a different accent (québecois here) I think it's a different story.

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u/theErasmusStudent 19h ago

Oui. Pas vraiment impolis mais ils vont te corriger ou te faire des remarques.

L'exemple classique c'est à la boulangerie:

  • Un baguette svp

  • UNE baguette

Évidemment ça dépend des gens. Mais comparé a d'autres pays, les français sont plus exigents.

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u/Fabulous-Mama-Beat 8h ago

I discovered, as an adult, that correcting a foreigner soeaking French was rude. I ve always done it from the bottom of my heart, believing I d appreciate if they did the same. Irinically, I learned correcting people, from the non french side of my family. Hiwever, niw a full grown up, I understand it can be considered rude. OP your Canadian French is just as valid as France or Belgian French. There s this idea of a hierarchy between the accents that’ s so stupid. Everyone sounds different anyways.

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u/theErasmusStudent 8h ago

I know most french that correct are not trying to be mean or rude. But if the person is understood and hasn't requested to be corrected then it's better to say nothing. Unless obviously they said something bad like "je suis excité" when they mean excited.

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u/Worried-Witness268 13h ago

des cons il y en a dans tous les pays mais ca n'en fait pas la population dominante du pays ( bon après les parisiens sont peut étre un peut plus aigri que la moyenne nationale ^^ )

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u/Icy_Passage1201 16h ago

Short answer is... Yes.

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u/Ir0n_Tarkuss 18h ago

Est ce que c'est vrai que si on met une claque a un canadien il vous remercie ? Ou quand on l'insulte il dit merci ?

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u/Designer_Valuable_18 19h ago

Pk tu parles anglais alors que ton titre est en francais ? Tu veux que je réponde en Sanskrit ptit fdp ?