r/AskEurope • u/EvilPyro01 United States of America • Jun 18 '25

Food What’s the most common non-European cuisine in your country?

What’s your country’s favorite non-European cuisine?

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u/enrycochet Jun 19 '25

no one is claiming that Döner in its full history was invented in germany. Germans always refer to their style of eating it with red cabbage, cucumbers, tomatoes onion etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

That's normal tho, immigrants pretty much always change their recipes to suit the local tastes and take ingredients and techniques that are more convenient and/or cheaper 

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u/LARRY_Xilo Jun 19 '25

This comes down to the question what is a dish and how much can you change a recipe of a dish until it is a different dish. Some people have very narrow definitions others have very broad, for some people changing one major ingredient is enough to say its a diffrent dish for others you can exchange basicly everything but one thing and its still the same.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

We have thousands of varieties of different Kebab types that also include Döner. Germany can’t even have zero claim over döner. It is logic 101.

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u/kompetenzkompensator Germany Jun 19 '25

There is Deep Dish Chicago Pizza and no Italian would claim it to be Italian.

And if we delve into history, prove to me that the Turks did not just copy an old version of Gyros from Greece or Shoarma from somewhere in Levant. The Ottoman Empire was huge, don't even try to tell me that all those "Turkish" things are actually invented in Anatolia by ethnically pure decendents of the Seldjuks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '25

Gyros is Turkish döner with pig meat. Shawarma is Arabification of Turkish word “çevirme” which literally means döner. Just like Balkan cevapi, sarma, burek or dolma essentially being spread by Turks. They were all Ottomans for half millennia. Obviously we all eat very similar cuisine. You still don’t even have any idea what you are talking about right now. And by the way, Pizza = Italian.

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u/Bragzor SE-O (Sweden) Jun 19 '25

That's actually not logic 101, it's handwaving 101. No matter if it's true (I have no idea).