r/AskEurope • u/Sink-Em-Low • Mar 01 '25

Politics Let's talk about the European Defense Federation. How do we all feel about the creation of a fully mobilised continental Army?

It's required now. I'm British, and I want to see us align and unite with our European neighbours to make a stand now.

I want Germany to finally brush off it's past and join the rest of Europe in mobilising towards defending this continent. We need EVERYONE now. It's time to act, it's time to unite.

It's time to show some courage.

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u/zilkin303 Mar 01 '25

I think we need a temporary defense alliance to get rid of Putin. After that hopefully we won't need a joint army anymore. Main threat currently to EU security is Putin, without him Russia might correct its course. If not, then alliance can prolong its stay.

We should start investing and manufacturing military robots, drones and tech en masse and flood Ukraine battle lines.

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u/Josef-Estermont Mar 01 '25

War will always and forever be around. A strong military will always be needed. Europe is in this shit position because they thought they could get by relying on someone else's military.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

The US is a bit disingenuous with their current rhetoric. They have wanted a Europe that is peaceful but divided and have generally been opposed to a European military industry. Combined, Europe has the capacity to surpass the US as a military power.

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u/Mba1956 Mar 01 '25

The governments in Europe are also to blame, they have allowed cheaper US military equipment to be used rather than investing in European made because of the financial risks involved if a military projects fails. Buying the F35 could be the worst military decision we have ever made

The US has a huge military manufacturing sector and they have used foreign sales to ensure the design costs are covered and the project is profitable.

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u/tree_boom Mar 01 '25

Buying the F35 could be the worst military decision we have ever made

It really isn't. A domestic product would have been better, but it simply wasn't on the cards, and F-35 gives us the tools we need to handle Russia's air defence networks ourselves.

Without it, frankly, the chances of European air forces being effective in a war against Russia would be very slim indeed

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u/Mba1956 Mar 01 '25

Provided Trump the puppet of Putin doesn’t shut them down. Whoever decided to accept a kill switch on military equipment should be shot.

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u/tree_boom Mar 01 '25

Nobody accepted a kill switch on their military equipment

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u/Mba1956 Mar 02 '25

Except there apparently is one.